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#MS Visual C++ For CDK

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#149293From: Kevin YuricaJan 26, 1995 5:03 PM
<<when i installed this i found that version 2 was for NT only and that while the disks included the r1.5 version for windows, the manuals were not included.>> I don't know what the official "party line" from MS is, but I can confirm your sightings. The VC++2.0 that I received had references to vers. 1.5 in the documentation that seemed to be inconsistent with the overall product package. Also, you're right. With VC 2.0, support for Win 3.1/32s has been eliminated and this was a bit of a surprise to us working on the CDK. NT was always a much more solid development platform than Windows 3.1, however, MS still surprised us by pulling VC++ support from the 3.1 platform entirely. <<1. is this the correct version of the ms visual c++ or is there another version i should be using>> Yes, VC++2.0 is the right development environment for the CDK. Coupled with NT 3.5, the integrated Visual C++ environment is a very powerful. <<2. do i need these books or will the manual to the cdk suffice (not likely) 3. do you or anyone else there no of a good third party book i could use.>> If you have the VC++2.0 manuals you are part way there. MS also has a whole series of additional reference guides for VC++ that may also be helpful to you. The manuals that ship with VC++2.0 are a good start, but, if you start getting into things, you'll probably be interested in the extra volumes. Also, there a number of VC++ references available from sources other than MS. McGraw-Hill has published a fair number of them. Just one word of caution, stick to manuals that specifically reference vers. 2.0. There are enough differences between 2.0 and previous versions that you won't want to use references that refer to earlier versions. -Kevin Yurica
#149294From: Jerry O'ConnorJan 26, 1995 5:15 PM
Kevin, thanks for the reply! i was beginning to think there was no one out there. are you suggesting that i should be using NT for development instead of win3.1?? if so will i be able to take advantage of NT features such as dual processors etc… i thought that in its standard (single processor) mode, NT was supposed to be slower than windows 3.1. also, if i'm going to use version 1.5 (the only version supporting windows 3.1) why should i get manuals which only reference version 2.0?? thanks again for your reply. P.S. are you with adesk or are you a user of the cdk product? Jerry O'Connor Summit Graphics, Inc.
#149557From: Kevin YuricaJan 27, 1995 2:04 PM
<<are you suggesting that i should be using NT for development instead of win3.1??>> The CDK is supported with VC++2.0 only. If you want to build applications with the CDK R2 (my assumption), then it has to be VC++2.0. And….if you want to use VC++2.0, then it has to be NT. (I'm pretty sure there's no way VC++2.0 will work with Win 3.1- but, feel free to ask MS the same question.) <<also, if i'm going to use version 1.5 (the only version supporting windows 3.1) why should i get manuals which only reference version 2.0??>> Only Version 2.0 is supported with CDK. Hope that helps!
#149593From: Jerry O'ConnorJan 27, 1995 3:35 PM
Kevin, << The CDK is supported with VC++2.0 only. If you want to build applications with the CDK R2 (my assumption), then it has to be VC++2.0. And….if you want to use VC++2.0, then it has to be NT. (I'm pretty sure there's no way VC++2.0 will work with Win 3.1- but, feel free to ask MS the same question.) >> does this mean that programs created with cdk2 will only run under NT or will they run under windoze 3.1 with win32S ?? also, i heard rumor that there will also be a dos version of cdk2. Is this true? (you seem to be the only one with answers) thanks again for your help! Jerry O'Connor Summit Graphics, Inc.
#149634From: Kevin YuricaJan 27, 1995 5:07 PM
Hi Jerry: <<does this mean that programs created with cdk2 will only run under NT or will they run under windoze 3.1 with win32S ??>> CDK R2 applications run fine under Win 3.1/32s, no problems there. In fact, the entire kit will load into Win 3.1 and the many precompiled executables and viewers provided all run just fine. (The same code stream will execute in both Win31./32s and NT 3.5.) So, the limitation is really just compilation. And, our hand was forced my MS on this. It will interesting to learn more about VC++ support for Windows'95. My guess is MS picks it up, but I haven't heard anything official yet. <<also, i heard rumor that there will also be a dos version of cdk2. Is this true?>> No DOS plans for CDK R2 at this time. Truthfully, I don't think Autodesk will do it. We're too committed to the promise of 32-bit Windows. 32-bit extended DOS has worked pretty well for us, but given the quest for greater interoperability between applications, Windows wins, hands down. (you seem to be the only one with answers) Well, I'm certainly willing to help when I can! Thanks. -Kevin