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#TOASTER and VID Equip

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#3560From: daniel sternklarDec 14, 1990 5:09 PM
Hello all we are currently evaluating Video equipment for use with the toaster for ourselves as well as resale to our customers We are looking at the Prime Image TBC Model 25 (its less then $2,000!) Sony CCD-V5000 Hi-8 camcorder SONY EVO-9700 Hi-8 dual deck with build in TBC SONY U-Matic VO-9800 3/4 inch deck Hitachi VLS-9700 S-VHS with TBC Would appreciate hearing from anyone with experience with these units especially the video professionals out there! Thanks Much! Regards, Daniel Sternklar ,Clear Star International,513-281-FAST (3278)
#3638From: Tom RobinsonDec 16, 1990 2:24 PM
Daniel, I use the Sony VO-5800 and VO-5850 quite a bit — I think the VO-9800 (and 9850?) are newer versions with a few more bells & whistles. The VO series is probably considered high-end industrial but can be used in broadcast as well. What're you and your customers looking to do with the equipment? There's a pro-sumer TBC due out for about $1500 soon, I think. =Tom=
#3671From: Pete GouldDec 16, 1990 10:50 PM
Tom, The 5800/50 is the standard 3/4" edit system; the 9800/50 is the 3/4-SP system. Somewhat higher resolution, better S/N and they fixed the most prominent 3/4" artifact, something known in the trade as "ringing." Ringing shows up in an image with a lot of detail as a series of ghost images trailing off to the right of the primary image. The VO-XXXX is indeed the industrial side of the Sony line. Pete
#3676From: daniel sternklarDec 16, 1990 11:21 PM
Tom, We are getting more involved in video post production ourselves. Our client base is wide anywhere from hobbyist to professional. There are lots of low cost tbc's on the way . In the meantime we are stuck with whats out there. The amiga just might help drive the prices down. In the meantime stuck with buying prime image model 50's in the 2K range. -ds
#3691From: Tom RobinsonDec 17, 1990 12:18 PM
If you're getting heavy into professional post, you'll probably want to at least take a look at the Sony BVU series. They're gorgeous machines, although the price would incline you to make sure they can pay for themselves. 😉 =Tom=
#3694From: daniel sternklarDec 17, 1990 4:37 PM
Tom, The BVU units were suggested to us recently . Are they capable of single frame recording? Do you also know much about single frame controllers like the BCD5000 we may become dealers for them. -dan
#3810From: Tom RobinsonDec 20, 1990 1:17 PM
Daniel, check with Mike Berro (76004,2001) about single-frame controllers; he's written software to drive 'em. As for the BVU series decks recording single frames, sure — they use SMPTE time code which guarantees you'll find the correct frame. The VO series will do single frames, but they count control track pulses to locate themselves and they can slip a bit; they're only accurate to about 2-3 frames. Not good at all for what you'll be doing. =Tom=
#3812From: Pete GouldDec 20, 1990 2:07 PM
Tom, Not true! The VO- series machines can CERTAINLY do time code! The older machines (like the 5850) can put it on an audio channel; the newer machines in the 9800 series (the 3/4-SP machines) can also put it on an address track, I believe. Plus there's also VITC (vertical interval TC) which I believe they can also use. Mike's stuff can talk to all of them. Even the 5850. Pete
#3822From: Chris AllanDec 20, 1990 7:56 PM
Excuse me for jumping into this thread . . . but Sony does NOT recomend the VO series for single frame recording. The mechanical guts were not designed for the stress. IF you can afford it, stick with the BVU series if you are going to do much single-frame recording. -Chris
#3832From: daniel sternklarDec 20, 1990 9:53 PM
Chris , thx Panasonic has a worm laser now for about 12K that records 24,000 frames its getting interesting They are also releasing a new S deck with TBC called the 7750 could this work? -ds
#3855From: Tom RobinsonDec 21, 1990 1:17 PM
Voops! You're right — I remember that there was a retrofit package for the 5850 that set it up for time code. I dunno about having it in the vertical interval — I think it used the address track. But anyway, I don't know any specifics about the SP machines. =Tom=
#3861From: Keith P. NeffDec 21, 1990 5:37 PM
Pete; Even the 5850 can be modified to use address track code by adding the alpha audio mod. VITC can be carried by any deck since it is on a line in the vertical interval of video, however, special readers are required to seperate the lines and decode the SMPTE info, not cheap! Keith (Grace & Wild Studios)
#3831From: daniel sternklarDec 20, 1990 9:51 PM
Tom, cant the VO series use SMPTE with an add on module? Would the new Panasonic 7750 be a good choice for single frame work? thx ds
#3856From: Tom RobinsonDec 21, 1990 1:18 PM
You're right about the addon module for the VO units, Daniel. Pete just reminded me about it! I don't know beans about the Panasonic, though; sorry. =Tom=