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Troubled NoteBook…

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#32096From: Nelson IngersollDec 21, 1991 10:47 PM
Ben – I'm having another problem with NoteBook (v1.01). I typed in some notes yesterday. This morning when I opened the notebook file again one line is about 2/3rd's occluded by what looks to be boxes with X's. I did not put these there. I selected the page and started to edit the line. There is text under the boxes, but I can't get rid of the boxes. Any ideas? The text that is occluded isn't special, but I hope this sort of thing isn't a regular occurence. – Nelson … – via Whap!
#32100From: Black Belt SystemsDec 22, 1991 12:17 AM
It shouldn't be – can you upload the notebook to me? I'd like to see this problem, it'll help a lot to fix it. I've not seen this, either. ben
#32127From: Nelson IngersollDec 22, 1991 2:45 PM
Ben – I just uploaded a 709 byte binary file via E-Mail to you. The file, using LZ, will expand into NELSON.PG. It is the single page that currently exhibits the problem. I did test that the page still exhibited the problem after being uncrunched. Be interested to know what you discover. I can select the garbage only in the context of selecting the paragraph. I cannot select the boxes alone. – Nelson … – via Whap!
#32142From: Black Belt SystemsDec 22, 1991 6:28 PM
Thank you very much; that kind of help usually leads directly to fixes. Appreciate the time you took to provide us with the file. Ben
#32175From: Nelson IngersollDec 22, 1991 11:52 PM
Ben – I actually enjoy banging on programs. If the little effort I expend enhances your ability to improve the product, it still isn't enough to repay the Amiga community for the wonderful things that it has made possible for me. Talk to BobR about my beta testing. Hell, I even fill out paper work! As a programmer myself I wouldn't dream of expecting anyone to find a bug on the basis of a report to-wit, "… it doesn't work right!" My only problem is that I am unable to put forth a large concentrated effort. With two young sons I am no longer able to just 'disappear' for a "few" hours… except after they have gone to bed… 9-) – Nelson – via Whap!
#32203From: Black Belt SystemsDec 23, 1991 2:42 PM
I understand. Well, we appreciate anything you can tell us that includes details. Nothing is as nice a as a good bug report, one that leads to right to reproducing the problems. And conversely, nothing is as frustrating as a bug report of the form "It don't work right". Ben
#32207From: SyndesisDec 23, 1991 5:21 PM
One of the letters on the wall at Syndesis says "Your software doesn't work at all, and I just wasted 30 cents to tell you that." End of letter. What a customer… after a phone call, he couldn't really tell us what was wrong, or what problems he was having.
#32208From: Black Belt SystemsDec 23, 1991 5:47 PM
That must have been a fabulous moment, when you first read that. :^) I know just how you felt… We've got a ClickFAX customer who called us repeatedly for every little issue you can imagine. No problem, as far as it goes. Now, this absolutely moronic "review" in AmigaWorld comes out, and we get a letter from thes3e same people saying they can't figure it out, and that they've "been DTP users for years" and so expect to be able to, ergo it's the fault of the software. The P.S. to this is that these people called us up _repeatedly_ to ask us how to do the simplest operations imaginable in…. no, not ClickFAX – PageStream! Experts, my bunions. Luckily, most of our customers are a lot smarter than these folk. Ben
#32233From: Nelson IngersollDec 23, 1991 11:26 PM
Ben – Here's another report for you. Load a notebook, or create one. Trash the last page so that you are now sitting at "End Of Book". Click NoteBook into Tiny Window. Click it back to active. Viola'! Where are the trash can gadgets? There is a darkened square. And each gadget is still there. You can verify that by clicking in their areas. But the gadgets are not displayed. Not a big problem, but worth a note in your book. 9-) In case I don't catch you online, enjoy the holiday. – Nelson … – via Whap!
#32268From: Black Belt SystemsDec 24, 1991 3:04 PM
We got this one already – thanks. Ben
#32262From: Steve AhlstromDec 24, 1991 12:53 PM
Ben, I found an AmigaWorld at the grocery store last night and quickly skimmed their article on Whap!. They had several points incorrect (price being one of them). I think they just slip brain out of gear and type when writing articles. Thank Darwin that the Tech Journal is on a much higher plane. -sja
#32271From: Black Belt SystemsDec 24, 1991 3:12 PM
Well, each article is written by a different person. There's room for "Excellence By Accident", as long as the editors don't actually hurt something (judging by the complete lack of technical editing on the review of ClickFAX, I don't think they would… I think they just check spelling and the like). Haven't seen a tech journal in a while…. hmmm. Ben
#32281From: Steve AhlstromDec 24, 1991 5:32 PM
Ben, Because of the lack of technical acuity in AmigaWorld, I don't subscribe or otherwise purchase the magazine. Every couple of months I'll flip through an issue if I happen to see it at the grocery store.
#32276From: Michael GerardDec 24, 1991 3:58 PM
Steve: The ihe index for the Whap! documentation I uploaded was really in response to that AW article that bemoans the Whap! documentaion. – Whapp!ng from the North Coast Michael
#32292From: SyndesisDec 24, 1991 11:07 PM
Just one of the many fabulous moments. Perry showed me a letter they received at ASDG, and a word that I (probably incorrectly) remember as "leppy bro" has become the generic description of letters that *seem* to be written in English, and then suddenly stop… Maybe Perry can chime in here with the real text of the letter. Now when we read a letter from an enthusiastic customer who, to their credit, try to converse in English, we refer to it as a "leppy bro" letter. Another favorite of mine is when someone calls on the phone to ask which 3D program I like the best, or what do I think of Imagine, or XYZ, …
#32304From: Black Belt SystemsDec 25, 1991 2:59 AM
Yeah… and they probably have just as much trouble with my spanish, or your japanese, neh? Ben
#32351From: SyndesisDec 26, 1991 4:14 PM
Hate to sound like Vic Wagner, but the '?' and 'ne' are redundant. 🙂 Come to think of it, I didn't understand Vic's comment. What's wrong with "degrees Fahrenheit"? "Degrees" alone might be ambiguous, right?