#DownloadHELP!
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Eric,
AutoPilot does NOT "switch on the fly" between 7E1 and 8N1. What it does
is what I believe all term programs should do by default or user
configuration, it strips the 8 bit from the display (only). AutoPilot,
since it is CompuServe only, is hardcoded at 8N1.
-sja
I have re-read my earlier message. I can see where my point wasn't well made.
What I was trying to save a fellow Amigan the hassle of logging in without
having garbage at the login prompts. I have many term programs, but I have
settled on two for CIS use. (at least in the Amiga world) Terminus because it
flips from 7e1 to 8n1. I tried to make a separate statement, not successfully,
that I also use Autopilot. I had assumed that AutoPilot used the HMI protocol
which would require 8n1. (since HMI is a file transfer) When using an ascii
interface it is best to be at 7e1, unless your software can strip the high bit.
Remember, I am looking at CompuServe from a broader perspective than the
average joe. I know there are a lot of other places to go than CIS at the host
name. For example type NETWRK at the host name prompt. I would be betraying
my principles if I let someone log in at 8n1 and let the host force them to
7e1.
Eric.
Eric,
You make some invalid and incorrect assumptions.
When using the ascii interface (as is required for Amiga users since CompuServe
does not see fit to release the HMI library for Amiga) it is best to log on at
8N1 and strip the high bit from display.
I have never once denied that 8n1 with high bit stripped is a viable
alternative. One thing you must consider, how many programs offer this
feature? I speak with 70+ members a day, and I can tell you…not many
programs have this option. My original intention was to offer my opinion for
the best software solution to use CIS on the AMIGA platform. I did not want to
get into a revolving conversation where I repeat myself and am still not
understood. Can you name any program for the Amiga, besides AP, that offers
high bit stripping? This would help progress this conversation. Just telling
someone to strip the high bit, which his software likely does not support and
leaving him scratching his head is not good.
P.S. I checked on the HMI development policy. It is available in the
Doscimsup forum. HMIDEV.txt. I asked around to find why it is not available
for the Amiga. I found out some interesting things. I'm outta space so if
interested let me know
Eric.
Eric,
Amiga term programs that optionally or by default strip the high bit for
display purposes only are AP, BackTalk, Online, JRComm … and probably a lot
of others (I don't think I've seen one that didn't have that option).
I've been an approved HMI developer for the last 5-6 years.
Hi,
i know next to nothing about term programs but i use terminus and it
has a strip high bit option.. i use it on CIS all the time to browse
around the other forums and mall areas.
i would like to see us put on equal grounds with other users. just
because my machine is Handicapped by lack of numbers i should not be
denied equal access. All systems should be Amiga accessible…with the
same ease as IBMs and Macs. perhaps we should get a discount here.
-mark-
Eric,
Come to think of it Eric, from the earliest (1986) Amiga shareware
terminal programs I've used, I've never had to worry about having that
feature. Not until using ProCOMM on a MS-DOS machine did I ever experience
the garbage text when using 8-N-1 to log on to CIS.
But since you've asked which ones I'll name two of them.
Terminus and Term both strip the high bit (option selectable), besides
Backtalk and AutoPilot (hard coded?).
I'm sure you'll have compiled the complete list with just a few more
members' posts.
Ah, I think I see one now, 🙂
Christopher
Eric,
BackTalk and OnLine! (and I believe Access) offer the option of
stripping the high bit.
Don
Excellent! This is what these threads are for, meaningful discussion and
contribution.
Thanks to all