#HELP -T-Rexx
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Have just received my copy of T-Rexx. Have loaded on to my computer – which is
an Amiga 2000, with the Toaster 4000 hardware/software.
On booting up – get the following message over the WB Screen "The ARexx server
(RexxMast) is not running. Please start the ARexx server before running
Pop-TR".
What's gone wrong – and how do I correct it???
I am a simple sould – so please lead me on a simple step by step path to get
things right. If you need further info'…. let me know.
Regards….. Hilary.
Try running RexxMast 🙂
In your system directory.
–Paul < Motorola Inside >
Thanks for the suggestion Paul. I took the Icon out of the Systems window and
plonked it into the WBStartup one. This seems to have solved that problem as
far as I can see.
Next problem is trying to see the windows produced by T-Rexx. The actual
program window is so jittery with interline problems, that I feel as if I was
looking at crude animation. Is there any way out of this problem – other than
buying a "Flicker Fixer" – which would make my purchase of the ASDG T-Rexx – a
rather expensive proposition?
Again thanks & best regards, Hilary.
Hilary,
one thing you can try is to change the color palette the program is
using, if it will allow you to. Since I lost my kept messages in a crash,
and can't recall the better choices, I'm sure someone else could provide
some examples. Ask over in AutoPilot, if nothing else, since some people
still use AP on a non-flickerfixed machine.
Brian
bjbart@watserv.ucr.edu
The flicker does not come from T-REXX. You have a problem somewhere else.
What is your system configuration?
–Paul < Motorola Inside >
Paul. Configuration of my Amiga 2000 is as follows:-
GVP 28 MHz accelerator. 9 Megs of RAM. Workbench 2.04. 204 Meg Hard disk
(SCSI). Toaster 4000 with software.
It is ONLY on the screns of T-Rexx where the line flicker is very apparent. In
video is is know as "interline flicker". Due to the two field pix delivery to
the CRT. The density of boxes – small type – narrow lines etc. in T-Rexx
contribute to the problem I think. It is very annoying to look at for very
long.
Regards, HILARY
Hilary,
I think you can simply drag the RexxMast (?) icon into the WBStartup drawer…
Someone correct me if I'm wrong,
Jerry
Thanks Jerry….
I did just what you suggested…. and all is well!
All the best, Hilary
I have no suggestions as to how to correct it …. but I have the same
problem too.
TRexx is looking for RexxMast, which according to my calculations should
be running, since it is in my WB startup directory. Apparently you can
adjust the priority of those programs, which I tried doing, to no avail.
So I end up double-clicking the RexxMast icon before I run TRexx.
It's no end embarrasing for an aspiring ARexx guru.
Barbara
Mixing a flicker fixer with the Toaster can be trouble. A cheap and reasonable
effective solution is one of those smoked plastic screens to lay over your
monitor. By decreasing contrast a little, those screens cut flicker a lot.
I've been using a Flicker Free Video board for years on my Toaster with
never a problem. Am I missing something?
–Paul < Motorola Inside >
Frustrating Barbara!
Moving the little Icon out of the Systems window – into the WB-Startup seemed
to do the trick for me.
Probably there is some way you could start the thing with a line in the S:
directory "user-startup" file. Am sure that some expert can advise on this.
Interesting….. To-date have NOT had and help/advice from the makers of this
program.
Regards, Hilary.
Hilary,
if you put it back in your system directory, add the following line to
your s:user-startup file:
Sys:System/RexxMast >NIL:
The >NIL: shoves the normal output from the program ("Start RexxMast"
or somesuch) to the bit-bucket, never to be seen again.
The same principle applies to other programs, perhaps PopTR, which I
believe is a subject of discussion further down the line. You may also
need to add a <NIL: in there if the program you add to your s:user-startup
does not allow the startup CLI window to go away.
I hope this helps.
Brian
bjbart@watserv.ucr.edu
Thanks Brian for the suggestion. Will give it a try soon.
Have a good Xmas…. Hilary.
Brian. Inserted your suggested line in my "user-startup" file. Regret to no
avail, the dratted little window still appears on booting up WB.
When you "CANCEL" the thing goes away and, on opening the SYSTEM window and
clicking on T-Rexx icon, it informs you that it is already running.
Am surprised that the ASDG folk do not seem to have a fix for this problem. If
they do, they are certainly very quiet about it!
Thanks anyway….. Hilary
Hilary,
looking at this message and the one you posted down the road to ASDG,
I'm a bit confused as to what you have done. Did you move RexxMast back
to your System drawer? If so, did you add the line Sys:System RexxMast
>NIL: to your user-startup? If so, that should take care of the immediate
problem with programs balking about RexxMast not running, as no program
gets a chance to run from the WBStartUp drawer until well after
User-Startup is done. If T-Rexx is complaining that RexxMast is not
running and T-Rexx is in the WBStartUp drawer, something very odd is going
on.
If the problem is that a program is complaining that T-Rexx is not
running, that's a whole 'nother kettle of fish. Then you would look at
adding a line, after the one that starts RexxMast, to start T-Rexx in your
User-Startup. Either that, or look at modifying your commodity
priorities, but I seem to recall that didn't work for this situation.
Am I even close to what is going on now?
Brian
bjbart@watserv.ucr.edu
Make sure Rexxmast is put back in the system drawer or you will keep getting
those annoying 'has not returned yet' or run 'rexxmast' requestors popping up.
What is happening is that the Pop_TR commodity is trying to run before ARexx is
active (Pop_TR requires ARexx). Unfortunately, adusting the delay tooltype for
Pop_TR only results in 'has not returned' messages. As it was stated in earlier
messages, running rexxmast from the user-startup is the only way around, just
make sure you put rexxmast back in the system drawer and add this line to
S:user-startup;
run >nil: sys:system/rexxmast
should do the trick.
Chris Edgin ASDG tech.
Chris,
I think you misdirected that. It should have gone to Hilary. I'm
happy to see that our advice is essentially the same.
Brian
bjbart@watserv.ucr.edu
I should not have been so smug is saying that it was fixed.
For some reason or other – I once again get the signboard on starting up.
Did you ever have any other suggestions that worked Barbara?
Hilary.
I did actually talk to ASDG tech support about this some time ago. They
suggested I change the priority of the commodities that start RexxMast and
PopTR. I believe it is all covered by using CX_PRIORITY in conjuction with
the PopTR command (check out pages 148-150 in the manual, it tells you how
to change the priority of commodities). It's some time since I fiddled
with it, so I'm hazy, but the default priority of commodities is 0. What I
think you need to do is make sure RexxMast runs before PopTR does (because
PopTR looks for ARexx and gets plaintive when it can't find it.)
While it all sounded fine in theory, I was never successful in getting
this to work. I tried different priorities, but to no avail and finally I
tired of it all. I'm ashamed to say that what I do now is: open WBStartup;
double-click on PopTR, then run TRexx. Not elegant, but it works.
Perhaps this will point you in the right direction. I'm hopefully getting
my Toaster4000 next week and I plan on spending some time on this sort of
housekeeping, so I'll probably grapple with it all then. Let me know how
you get on.
Barbara
Thanks for the info' Barbara. Will take a look at the pages you suggest in the
T-Rexx manual….. and then see what I can fiddle with.
In my case the PopTR Icon is nicely tucked inside the WBStarup can of worms. It
does not appear on the first boot-up window.
So….. you are splurging on the Toaster 4000. I got mine around 3 months ago.
It is an improvement over the Ver:2.0. Effects go far more smoothly – and they
have improved on the CG – although I use "Montage" (Innovision) for the
majority of my titles. I still have Ye Olde Amiga 2000….. and will have
until my clients decide to pay billings more promptly. Money goes OUT faster
and more than it comes IN.
All the best, HILARY
I'll let you know if I come up with any solutions during my setup of the
new Toaster. I'm very much looking forward to getting it — one of the
main reasons for upgrading was the improved CG. I got an Amiga 4000 this
summer as I was able to justify the expense as part of a large print job
I've been doing. Then, once I had it, it seemed to make sense to upgrade
the Toaster …. It just goes on and on doesn't it?
But I still have two trusty A2000s. Wouldn't dream of getting rid of them.
Wish you luck with your fiddling.
Barbara.
I get the same problem with my system. I've got a 2000 w/Toaster 3.0 and just
received the T-Rexx Pro. I'll try to drag the ICON over to WBstartup but there
MUST be a way to alter the Startup_Sequence script file. Hopefully simple
since I am not yet Amiga DOS literate (Everything I know about IBM and DOS is
WRONG!…and hard to re-kearn)>
Good luck in figuring it out. I'll let you know if I come up with
anything.
Barbara
Greg,
I don't have T-Rexx just yet, Santa may deliver…, but I may be able to
help. What do you want the startup-sequence to do with your installed
T-Rexx?
Burning the Midnight Toast
Patrick White
Only modify the user-startup NOT startup-sequence. Since WB2.04, the
startup-sequence file has become somewhat off-limits. Modifying the
startup-sequence could cause the system not to boot up properly (some
modifications interfere with the IPrefs and you could get all sorts of annoying
requestors). See my previous post for info on how to modify the user-startup
for use with T-rexx.
Chris Edgin ASDG tech.
Brian Bartlett suggested adding a line tothe "user-startup" which was supposed
to start T-Rexx on boot up.
Tried it…. with regret it does not seem to work.
Have printed out the stuff you sent after your ASDG call. Will mess about and
see if I can make anything work.
Just why folk like ASDG cannot give us a simple fix to the problem, I just do
not know…. Perhaps now that they have our bucks, it is "good luck and
goodbye!"
Hilary.
Put rexxmast back in the system drawer and add this line to the user-startup:
run >nil: sys:system/rexxmast
If rexxmast is left in the wbstartup drawer this operation will not work.
Chris Edgin ASDG tech.
Chris,
RexxMast doen't need to be 'RUN'. Just:
Sys:System/RexxMast >nil:
will do.
73, Kelly
Thanks for the info'.
Wish you folk had put a little bit about these things in the Manual. Us simple
folk need to know these things to get the best out of the Program.
All the best….. Hilary.