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#Ghostscript for me??

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#125327From: Richard GraffDec 16, 1993 6:19 PM
I have been looking over the document files in the Ghostscript archive and I really can't make heads nor tails on how to proceed installing and running this program. Just for the heck of it I tried to run it from the cli (there was no icon so I assume this is the only way to run it) and was told that I needed the IXEMUL.LIBRARY, which didn't seem to come with the file. Is this program ment only for those that already have an understanding of the postcript language? I get the impression that setting this up and using it to print postscript files on my laser printer is a bit over my head. The documents make reference to other platforms, but not the amiga, did I miss something? =Rick=
#125341From: Steve Bennett/SYSOPDec 16, 1993 10:09 PM
Are you certain that ixemul.library is not in the libs directory of the archive? I downloaded Ghostscript just check for validity of the upload, and I still have the library hanging around in my libs: directory.
#125375From: Richard GraffDec 17, 1993 7:20 AM
No, in the archive I downloaded there is not an ixemul.library anywhere in the archive. There is a libs drawer, but it doesn't contain any files, just more drawers. There is a drawer called "gs261", this seems to have "source" files, and something called "makefile", which I guess is an install type program, or creates certain files needed???? I don't know, this archive is over my head without some hand holding <G>. =Rick=
#125377From: BILL LEACHDec 17, 1993 8:19 AM
Rick; That library should not be included in the archive. It should be here on CIS (it is somewhat like the arplibraries in that regard). I have gs261 but on a Unix machine (which does not use that library) and I doubtoff that the source for the library is included also. It really is not all that hard to use as long as the build includes drivers that the Ami understands. Once you get it running a "gs -h" should give you a bit of an idea of how to select drivers. basically the command for gs is something like: gs -sDEVICE=pcx -sOutputFile=myfile.pcx purty.ps Where the "-sDEVICE=" entry is only needed if you do not want the default device and the "-sOutputFile=" is obviously needed if what you are creating is something that you would like to manipulate in some other program (though piping works). There are some other options such as for resolution settings. -bill
#125380From: Richard GraffDec 17, 1993 10:08 AM
Thanks, I found Ixemul.library in the AmigaTech section, hopefully it will be the required version <G>. If I have any other questions about Ghostscript I now know who to bother <GG>. I use an epson action laser 1500 and have wanted to see what the difference with Postscript printing would be for my uses, but have been hesitant to pay $450.00 for the postscript card that can be installed in my printer for something I know little about. =Rick=
#125414From: Gracia M. LittauerDec 17, 1993 8:24 PM
PMFBI Richard Where in AmigaTech did you find ixemul.lib & what is it called? I have to pay long distance to browse libs so I use my AP catalog which is up to date for Libraries. I just looked & can't find ixemul.lib. Yoou're not kidding, GhostScript is a tough program! Just formatting & printing docs should take all day ;^}. Thanks Gracia Taking off on AutoPilot from Cooleemee NC
#125425From: John DraperDec 18, 1993 12:59 AM
ixemul.library is in LIB 13 of AmigaTech… IXEMUL.LZH/Bin Bytes: 79852 Title : ixemul library Keywords: IXEMUL.LIBRARY IXEMUL This is the ixemul.library. It is required for use with some programs, notably one version of the MPEG player program. ————- Just for future reference, the fastest way to find something like this is with the BRO command at the LIB prompt. BRO IXEMUL BRO IXE* The above would find it if you were at the prompt for the LIB they are in. BRO IXEMUL LIB:ALL BRO IXE* LIB:ALL The above can find it no matter which LIB you are 'in'. Similarly, with keywords… BRO KEY:IXEMUL.LIBRARY LIB:ALL BRO KEY:IXE* LIB:ALL -larry
#125451From: Richard GraffDec 18, 1993 9:44 AM
Download the IXEMUL.lzh archive, its probably in the "libraries" file section. =Rick=
#125443From: BILL LEACHDec 18, 1993 8:21 AM
Rick; Ghostscript might be a bit of overkill for your purposes. I would suggest that you take a look at POST as well. Ghostscript is more of a converter/modifier that can be set to do just "plain" interpretation of PostScript whereas POST is just intended to print PostScript files. -bill
#125452From: Richard GraffDec 18, 1993 9:44 AM
Do you know If I should be trying Post 1.7 or 1.8??? I seem to remember some talk awhile back that there where some problems with 1.7, but since I wasn't interested at the time I didn't pay a whole lot of attention to the message thread. =Rick=
#125466From: Steve Bennett/SYSOPDec 18, 1993 12:27 PM
I use 1.7 with no problems.
#125556From: Barbara AndrewDec 19, 1993 2:13 PM
Is a version of Post available for the IBM world, do you know? That might solve my problem of wanting to distribute a postscript file to a series of DOS users to print out. Barbara
#125580From: Steve Bennett/SYSOPDec 19, 1993 5:44 PM
Barbara, Yes, there are postscript interpreters for dos machines… 'Freedom Of The Press' comes to mind. You might want to check the IBMFF and/or the DTP Forum.
#125786From: Jochen HaeberleDec 21, 1993 1:33 PM
as far as i know "freedom od press" is not PD or Shareware but a cartridge available only for some printers. … over the ocean Jochen, Stuttgart, Germany with AutoPilot
#125629From: Brian BartlettDec 20, 1993 4:44 AM
Barbara, according to the doc file with GhostScript, there is a version out there for most machines, especially DOS and Windows. Brian bjbart@watserv.ucr.edu
#125560From: Arnie CachelinDec 19, 1993 3:25 PM
Post 1.8 has a modified front end which is a bit nicer, 2.0 ready and doesn't require the arp.library, otherwise its pretty much the same.. Does anybody know if Ghostscript is PostScript Level 2 compatible? It seems unlikely, but…
#125648From: BILL LEACHDec 20, 1993 8:26 AM
Yes, ghostscript is PostScript Level 2 compatible but not yet 100%. -bill
#125488From: John DraperDec 18, 1993 7:00 PM
I use post 1.7, because 1.8 had some 'features' I did not like at all, and a few problems as well, though I can't remember details. -larry
#125537From: BILL LEACHDec 19, 1993 10:09 AM
Rick; I see that there are replies to you message (with I the answer I hope). I don't use Post and never have as I have always had a Postscript printer and the original source file for the PS stuff that I needed to mess with (until very recently). -bill
#125384From: Barbara AndrewDec 17, 1993 11:15 AM
Bill — PMFJI, but I wonder whether Ghostscript would solve a problem for me. I didn't see the beginning of this thread, but I assume that this utility would allow you to print a postscript file on a non-postscript printer. What I have to do is create a file from a Professional Page document that anyone could print. Gold Disk has suggested I use the CMD command to write to a file. But that would create a file that uses whatever printer driver specified in Preferences at the time. That means I would have to determine a list of commonly-used printers and create a file specific to each. Not very elegant. Would using Ghostscript allow me a more generic approach? The client wants to distribute this document on disk to a bunch of their clients. So we're looking at creating a DOS disk, and heaven only knows what type of printers they use. Any suggestions gratefully entertained. Barbara
#125396From: Steve Bennett/SYSOPDec 17, 1993 3:40 PM
Barbara, You might want to try something like this… Print out the document to a PostScript file. Then use POST to run the postscript file and output to an IFF file. Then use AdPro, ImageMaster or Image F/X to convert the IFF file to a PCX and/or BMP file. Include both the poscript file and the PCX/BMP file on your distribution disk, amybe even along with a PCX/BMP viewer.
#125497From: Wolf FaustDec 18, 1993 8:56 PM
Well, I would spread the Postscript file as it offers some kind of standard everybody knows. People without PostScript printers can use GhostScript or Post to convert the PS file to anything they want. Also, PostScript offers all readers the best output on their output device, while spreading bitmap files requires lot's of computer RAM and disk space to handle the bitmap files. I just got myself the latest SigGraph Proceedings with a nice CD containing all the papers as Acrobat, PS and text files. Really nice, to print the PostScript files on my BJC600 and LJ4M. — Wolf Faust, Am Dorfgarten 10, 60435 Frankfurt, Germany —
#125536From: Barbara AndrewDec 19, 1993 10:02 AM
Michael, That sounds like a great idea for those who just want to view the document on screen. If they tried to print it out, though, wouldn't it come out as a bitmap with lots of jaggies? Perhaps I could really carried away and include a printable file and a viewable file. Are there any PCX/BMP viewers on CIS? Thanks for your help. Barbara
#125541From: Steve Bennett/SYSOPDec 19, 1993 11:05 AM
>>If they tried to print it out, though, wouldn't it come out as a bitmap with lots of jaggies?<< Barbara, Yup. <g> But that's why, as Wolf pointed out, a postscript file should also be included, because that would print out in the highest respolution of the postscript device to which it is sent. >>Are there any PCX/BMP viewers on CIS?<< I use a program called PICEM. It will load and present PCX and GIF files and even present them in a slideshow… auto-adjusting to fit the display. I often will set up friends PC's so that on booting, an image, or series of images are presented to the screen and their system will wait for a <press any key> before continuing to boot. Forum Name: GRAPHSUP Library: GIF Viewers (3) Accesses: 12830 Size: 95885 File: PICEM.ZIP Submitted: [75300,2137] 14-Oct-93 PICK'M Image viewer, for GIF, PIC/CLP, PCX and Targa 16 & 24. Supports virtually all SVGA cards in all modes including 360×480 256 color mode (on any VGA). Adjusts brightness & contrast, saves images in PIC, PCX or GIF. Many slideshow features such as control over image position, timing, screen clearing and palette setting. Uses EMS/XMS and Disk swapping to give a crisp snap up of each image and fast scrolling. Will autoconvert across HiColor modes and scale to screen size.
#125444From: BILL LEACHDec 18, 1993 8:21 AM
Barbara; I am presuming that you are implying that PostScript is not a sufficiently universal format for your purposes (ie: some of the clients can not handle PostScript files)? Yes, ghostscript may be just exactly what you need but getting it set up for the task is probably not trivial. You will need to find out exactly what printers all of your clients can handle. Reduce that list to the lowest possible common denominators. Either: Recompile ghostscript with all of the required drivers included and create a "command file" that instructs ghostscript to convert the input file to each of the needed output files. OR: Recompile ghostscript for each of the client's as necessary and supply them with the ghostscript. Again, it would be a good idea to create "command" and batch files to automate the operations. -bill
#125535From: Barbara AndrewDec 19, 1993 10:01 AM
Bill, you presume correctly, not all endusers of this file have postscript printers. It sounds like I would have to go through a similar process to create a printable file using Ghostscript as I would in using the CMD command and print to dot matrix within Professional Page. It all boils down to an issue of printer drivers and creating files for each printer in a base set of printers. I had hoped I could create a generic file that could be printed using the printer driver on the machine that's actually printing it. But it seems not. I think I'll have a go just using CMD to create a file and see how I get on with that before getting into another piece of software. Thanks for your help. Barbara
#125647From: BILL LEACHDec 20, 1993 8:26 AM
Barbara; You would have to "go through" all of that to create the first set but since ghostscript is a Unix style program, it is designed to be run from scripts. Thus, once you know the devices that need to be used to create the various output files you can write a script that accomplishes that automagically. You might be a whole lot better off to just use PostScript files and your end and require (or supply) programs for each of the end users that have to process your files. -bill
#125663From: Barbara AndrewDec 20, 1993 2:27 PM
Bill, yes, it sounds like it would be best to use post files and include something for people to view them with. I guess I'll have a look at Ghostscript and start the learning process. Thanks for your help, Barbara
#125766From: BILL LEACHDec 21, 1993 9:26 AM
Barbara; You are welcome. If there is anything that I might be able to help with, let me know. I have contact with some folks that are pretty sharp on both PostScript and ghostscript. -bill
#125552From: Arnie CachelinDec 19, 1993 1:34 PM
Include a postscript version with pretty formatting, and a plain ASCII version for those who don't have a PS printer.. they can use whatever word processor they have to print it.