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#3D Studio and NT

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#82696From: Anthony P ChengFeb 9, 1994 10:32 PM
Does 3D Studio Release 3 run in a dos box under Win NT? Is any tuning required to make it work? If I take advantgae of Win NT's built in networking, will 3D Studio be able to take advantage of it? Is a version of 3D Studio coming out for Windows or Windows NT? Can you give me detailed product information?
#82723From: Yost GroupFeb 9, 1994 11:52 PM
1) 3DSr3 does not run under Windows NT. The Phar Lap dos extender inside of it does "real breaks" that NT doesn't support. 2) Autodesk doesn't comment about future product development plans for 3DS.
#83405From: Anthony P ChengFeb 12, 1994 7:39 PM
You told me that 3DSr3 does not run in Windows NT. However, as quoted from the file 3Ds3.rls file in File Library 9,: >Network Rendering >The new network rendering function is Netbios-independent, meaning it will run >on any PC-based local area network (LAN) or wide area network (WAN), including >the new Windows NT(R) from Microsoft. Can you explain?
#83438From: Yost GroupFeb 13, 1994 12:06 AM
I didn't write the 3ds3.rls file, so I can't comment on it (and have no idea why it says that).
#83470From: Gus GrubbaFeb 13, 1994 10:55 AM
Because you can use _any_ network environment, including a NT server – "As a file server". That doesn't mean you can run 3D Studio in the server. The same is true for folks running a PC/NFS network out of Sun's, SGI's whatever…
#83929From: SyndesisFeb 15, 1994 11:41 AM
But a WinNT server still means that the clients must be running 3DS in DOS windows under Windows for Workgroups or WinNT, right, and we know how fun that can be? Or is there a way for a DOS machine to access a WinNT server that I've forgotten? Are you thinking of something that requires more add-on software?
#83936From: Gus GrubbaFeb 15, 1994 12:50 PM
No. You don't have to run Windows in order to use a NT server. When you install Windows for Workgroups you also get a DOS client software. You can do anything you want without ever loading Windows (wouldn't I know that!?)… By the way, the DOS client software (NET.EXE) is available in the Microsoft forum. It is an interesting (read FREE) Lantastic alternative. Just note that the SERVER must be running either W4W or NT, thus, not a total Lantastic (or Novell Lite) replacement.
#84010From: SyndesisFeb 15, 1994 5:50 PM
I've been running WfW for more than a year, and I'd never heard of that. I'll check it out!
#84153From: SyndesisFeb 16, 1994 8:21 AM
I looked at NET.EXE again last night. It eats a lot of low memory, and even doing a few simple tests, it hung on me. Maybe it loads high, I didn't try that. But with a few machines here at the office, it might be an acceptable way for me to try network rendering.
#84178From: Gus GrubbaFeb 16, 1994 10:12 AM
Do you have W4W 3.11? The NET.EXE included with it is pretty decent and not that big. In fact, it's comparable to Lantastic (both smaller than Novell). At any rate, I call it a cheap alternative at best. The point is, anybody who has W4W has a peer to peer network ready to go and they may not even know it.
#84222From: SyndesisFeb 16, 1994 11:57 AM
No, I think I'm still at regular 3.1. I've heard 3.11 is an improvement. I haven't bothered to find out how to upgrade. I'm getting tired of sending Bill Gates more money. I wish he'd start sending me money for a while.
#84235From: Gus GrubbaFeb 16, 1994 1:27 PM
As a developer, you should get a hold of the Microsoft Developer Network. There are all kinds of levels going from around 500 bucks to over $10k a year. I get 6 to 10 CD's every other month with everything you can think off from Microsoft. Every API, every document, every tool, every system OS in every language known to man, so much stuff I don't even know what else is there. Do you want a Hebrew version of NT? Why not… it's there… <g>
#84272From: SyndesisFeb 16, 1994 3:29 PM
I have a couple MDN CDs, mostly cast-offs from friends at big companies who get it. I didn't know they carried all the OS versions, too. What about WinNT Advanced Server? 🙂 I'd love to save $1K on that.
#83546From: SCOTT HIGGINSFeb 13, 1994 7:23 PM
The fact that 3DS3 network rendering will function across most networks does not mean that it will run on the server. In this case the server is a Windows NT server, it will support DOS workstation connections.