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#Palette Measles in Flic

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#86146From: Judy WellerFeb 24, 1994 8:27 AM
I am having a problem with bizarre colored pixels showing up in my animation. They are brighly colored of a color that does not exists in the animation (bright green to be exact). I am unsure how to get rid of them. If I render a single frame/still image the problem does not occur. It only happens in the animation. I have had this problem once before, but it was when I was using a custom palette of 16 colors for water/lava animation. I ended up touching up the Flic in AniPro. But here I am letting 3DS create the palette so I am at loss as to the cause of the problem.
#86149From: Mike White SunDog Pro.Feb 24, 1994 8:47 AM
Hi Mike White @Schreiber.com SunDog Productions Hi it might be your video card or the drivers your useing.Give some specs on what kind of card and which drivers your using . Some video cards write to memory and then to a file so goig through video card translat -ion colors get messed up. Please reply and maybe I can awnser you question Oh yeah ,One reason your stills are coming out ok is that your not writting files in and out of video memory if you can understand Mike White SunDog Pro, @Schreiber.com
#86270From: Judy WellerFeb 24, 1994 2:58 PM
I am using an XGA-2 card and I use the Vibrant drivers that came with 3DS R3. This is first time I have experience the problem when not using a limited, custom palette. Judy
#86184From: Jonas Ruikis [ADESK]Feb 24, 1994 10:21 AM
<<They are brighly colored of a color that does not exists in the animation (bright green to be exact). >> As Steve pointed out, what are your 3ds vibcfg selections? Do they appear if you lower the resolution or color depth for your card? If you choose Vibrant driver, VESA Comp., does it still show up?
#86271From: Judy WellerFeb 24, 1994 2:58 PM
Since these are still test animations, I am only rendering to 320x200x256 with palette set to low. As I said I have the IBM XGA-2 card and I am using the VIBRANT driver. If I use any other setting with the XGA-2 card, I get a reall palette problem — (ie.e. hot pink, magenta, glowing green – etc). Judy
#86407From: ALAN IGLESIASFeb 25, 1994 12:19 AM
Try the medium pallete, Judy. If, while using the low palette option, the color-cutting routine runs into a color in later frames *not* found in the first one, it can substitute some weird colors in those frames. Then, you can use the resulting palette as a custom one, further optimizing your rendering times. -Alan
#86426From: Mike White SunDog Pro.Feb 25, 1994 1:15 AM
Mike White again It still should'nt give you any problems like this Mike White SunDog Pro…@Schreiber.com
#86478From: Judy WellerFeb 25, 1994 7:55 AM
Good point — my opening frames are just the background. I am using a blue gradient background and the first couple of frames show just the background and then the sub moves into view. I changed the background to "Layered Fog" and rendered with a mediume palette and the problem went away. Judy
#86505From: ALAN IGLESIASFeb 25, 1994 9:56 AM
Glad to hear that worked for you, Judy. -Alan
#86565From: Nik Grant [adesk]Feb 25, 1994 11:49 AM
Good work! Nik
#86653From: ALAN IGLESIASFeb 25, 1994 6:39 PM
Thanks, Nik!
#86482From: Nik Grant [adesk]Feb 25, 1994 8:10 AM
Do you work in an environment where you could swap graphics cards? This could be a hardware issue, since you're describing something that sounds extreme. Before doing that, try booting up with Files=40 (plain boot) and make sure all cables are plugged into the monitor/card properly. If you have the TSR which makes your XGA-2 VESA-compliant, run that and configure 3DS VIBCFG for VESA. I'm not sure what's going on. Nik
#86805From: Judy WellerFeb 26, 1994 8:24 AM
XGA is an extremely picky card. If I configure to use the VESA driver the palette is all scrambled. I can only get a proper palette with the Vibrant drivers. I normally run with files 35. Actually I am thinking of replacing the card with an ATI ULTRA PRO for MCA. It has 2MB of VRAM. Also I think that the over all support for ATI cards is better. IBM did not do a good job of making XGA VESA compliant and there are for example, a lot of games, that just wont work with the card. As far as I know ATI is only the company that makes a HI res card for micro channel machines.
#86813From: Mike White SunDog Pro.Feb 26, 1994 8:45 AM
Hi Hi Judy Mike White HereI use the Orch P9000 weitek and love it Mike White SunDog Pro….Schreiber.com
#87173From: Nik Grant [adesk]Feb 27, 1994 9:54 PM
Judy: "XGA is an extremely picky card. If I configure to use the VESA driver the palette is all scrambled. I can only get a proper palette with the Vibrant drivers." Thanks for this information.