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#We need Adobe Illus.

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#2763From: Richard S. Rose,M.D.Jul 25, 1988 11:44 PM
This is going to be a hard product to wait for. I wish we could compare Illustrator to Pro Draw. You've seen one, I the other (worked with Illustrator for several weeks – it alone is justification for having a MAC). Gold Disk is ALL RIGHT. They're first product, (Page setter?) was a toy – useless. Then they did their homework, settled down and produced Professional Page which is a wonderful program and the mainstay of my fledgling design/advertising business. It is lightyears better than their first program. With that kind of improvement and the distance they must be along the steep learning curve with PostScript I just can't wait for Pro Draw!
#2816From: John DraperJul 26, 1988 3:18 AM
I would have called PageSetter much more than a toy Rich, though looking at it from your obviously professional viewpoint, it may look like that. It did one thing, and did it well… it allowed the home user, the non professional, to do passable DTP work at low cost (including ). cost of program and dot matrix printer) I think it was quite a remarkable feat, considering what was on the market at the time it came out. They have since come out with a much better product, but Pagesetter will always have a place in my fond memories of programs I _enjoyed_ using. I can still remember the cheering when I demoed it at a local users group, and shuffled some text and graphics around with ease.
#2863From: Richard S. Rose,M.D.Jul 26, 1988 9:04 AM
your comments about PageSetter are well taken. We found it frustrating at best since we needed real typesetting capabilities. It was a warm-up for their much more sophisticated Professional Page. I like Gold Disk.
#2863From: Richard S. Rose,M.D.Jul 26, 1988 9:04 AM
your comments about PageSetter are well taken. We found it frustrating at best since we needed real typesetting capabilities. It was a warm-up for their much more sophisticated Professional Page. I like Gold Disk.
#2816From: John DraperJul 26, 1988 3:18 AM
I would have called PageSetter much more than a toy Rich, though looking at it from your obviously professional viewpoint, it may look like that. It did one thing, and did it well… it allowed the home user, the non professional, to do passable DTP work at low cost (including ). cost of program and dot matrix printer) I think it was quite a remarkable feat, considering what was on the market at the time it came out. They have since come out with a much better product, but Pagesetter will always have a place in my fond memories of programs I _enjoyed_ using. I can still remember the cheering when I demoed it at a local users group, and shuffled some text and graphics around with ease.
#2971From: Jay GrossJul 26, 1988 10:18 PM
I'd be comfortable using Pro Page for any application in any level of advertising/design. I note here that Info, Transactor and one other mag I can't recall name of offjhand are all produced entirely with ProPage. I've never seen Adobe Illustrator, but I know what it does, and i seriously doubt it does it any better than Professional Draw. Gold Disk is much better at producing programs than they are at estimating when they'll be ready, but they wont ship something till it's reasonably functional, and they do support their stuff with updates and improvements. Their help line, apart from being in Canada (which is an expensive phone call from here), is okay too. I'd bet on Gold Disk. Not when they SAY they'll have the stuff, but eventually. It's an AMAZING procuct, in the AMIGA sense of the word. I was impressed, and I'm old and jaded! I just wish these nice toys had been around when I was in the ad/design business. Go mail
#2984From: Richard S. Rose,M.D.Jul 26, 1988 11:13 PM
I use Professional Page a LOT. It needs many improvements however. All of which Gold Disk acknowledge. Text rotation, skewing, shading, better bezier curve function. Adobe Illustrator is a very different type of program. It is a professional drawing program. It does NOT handle text well. But compared to Pro Page it is a much more sophisticated program. It should be. Adobe had a long head start on the field, having developed PostScript. But Gold Disk is obviously learning and catching up fast. Right now I can safely say that with a combination of something like Pro Page and what Pro Draw promises to be, I will be able to do almost anything that I can visualize in graphic art production. But that's the fun of the medium ,your horizons expand as you learn more. I'll bet that shortly after the program comes out we'll be clamoring for more!
#2984From: Richard S. Rose,M.D.Jul 26, 1988 11:13 PM
I use Professional Page a LOT. It needs many improvements however. All of which Gold Disk acknowledge. Text rotation, skewing, shading, better bezier curve function. Adobe Illustrator is a very different type of program. It is a professional drawing program. It does NOT handle text well. But compared to Pro Page it is a much more sophisticated program. It should be. Adobe had a long head start on the field, having developed PostScript. But Gold Disk is obviously learning and catching up fast. Right now I can safely say that with a combination of something like Pro Page and what Pro Draw promises to be, I will be able to do almost anything that I can visualize in graphic art production. But that's the fun of the medium ,your horizons expand as you learn more. I'll bet that shortly after the program comes out we'll be clamoring for more!
#2971From: Jay GrossJul 26, 1988 10:18 PM
I'd be comfortable using Pro Page for any application in any level of advertising/design. I note here that Info, Transactor and one other mag I can't recall name of offjhand are all produced entirely with ProPage. I've never seen Adobe Illustrator, but I know what it does, and i seriously doubt it does it any better than Professional Draw. Gold Disk is much better at producing programs than they are at estimating when they'll be ready, but they wont ship something till it's reasonably functional, and they do support their stuff with updates and improvements. Their help line, apart from being in Canada (which is an expensive phone call from here), is okay too. I'd bet on Gold Disk. Not when they SAY they'll have the stuff, but eventually. It's an AMAZING procuct, in the AMIGA sense of the word. I was impressed, and I'm old and jaded! I just wish these nice toys had been around when I was in the ad/design business. Go mail