#WinImages Nubie Probs
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Thanks, I got your competitive upgrade recently.
The product looks very capable however I am having quite a bit of trouble
getting out of the blocks.
I've had this learning experience with other tools recently so I know it
passes. First, however I'm having some real stability problems. Looks like
WinImages does not "like" the Targa format output by Animation Master – my main
animation tool. I was hoping to use WinImages to do post processing on my
A:M work. Sure I can convert the file format to something else, individually
or possibly with a batch processor but what can you tell me about how I might
resolve the problem more directly. The machine either hangs hard or produces a
GP Fault – actually I just checked and its a Win32s error:
Unhandled Exception Error code 0xc0000005 FX.EXE B1C1F
Hardware: Gateway P590 – 40 Megs memory
Software: Windows for Workgroups 3.11
Assuming that I can get my files converted into a more compatible format (It
seems to like my Fractal Designer TGAs just fine), I could not find the trick
for loading a series of frames into the system (TimeLine or FilmStrip?) to
processes them as a group.
Frankly the paradigm has me a bit baffled. What is the conceptual work flow
model for this product, particularly regarding batch processing sequences of
frames produced by another system? I'll keep
browsing and playing. Your pointers are anticipated however. More tutorials
are needed, I think. I'm supportive of the on-line documentation approach. I
know how much easier and more timely it is for you I assure you. Content is
always the point though. In general, the docs look good.
With 'bated breath, Bre Anderson (Xanimotion)
Breanna,
> Looks like WinImages does not "like" the Targa format output by Animation
> Master – my main animation tool.
Ok, here's how we solve this: First, make a couple of representative Targa
files from animation master and email them to me, zipped, with the adress of
the company that makes the product (and phone and fax numbers). Include your
address, CIS number and phone, please. If that's not convenient, put same on a
disk and send them to:
Black Belt Systems
Technical Support
Building #2
398 Johnson Road
Glasgow, MT
59230
Remember to include (1) the files, (2) the address and phone # and fax # if
possible of the "Animation Master" people (3) a short note saying "These are
Targa files from Animation Master that crash WinImages. Again, include your
address, CIS # and phone. We'll take it from there:
Once we have the files, we'll see what's going on. If the Targa's aren't legal,
we'll see if we can modify the loader to load them anyway, _as long as that
doesn't compromise legal files_. If it DOES compromise legal files, we'll
contact the Animation Master people and see what we can get done for you that
way. On the other hand, if they are legal and the load software (ours) is
having a problem, (which is most likely, I suppose) we'll fix that. Should take
only a few days, no matter what the issue turns out to be.
> I was hoping to use WinImages to do post processing on my A:M work.
We'll get you going – one way or another.
> Assuming that I can get my files converted into a more compatible format (It
seems to like
> my Fractal Designer TGAs just fine), I could not find the trick for loading a
series of frames
> into the system (TimeLine or FilmStrip?) to processes them as a group.
Timeline – and it's easy. Double click on a timeline box. You'll get a dialog.
Select "Action Image", then tell it you want to use files. You'll get a regular
file dialog now. Select multiple files in the dialog using shift-click and/or
control-click in the standard Windows manner. When you close the dialogs,
you'll get all the files you selected,up to about 300 or so, which is the limit
for the Windows Dialog. You can do this multiple times, if need be (if you have
more than 300 files to process).
> Frankly the paradigm has me a bit baffled. What is the conceptual work flow
model for this
> product, particularly regarding batch processing sequences of frames produced
by another
> system? I'll keep browsing and playing. Your pointers are anticipated
however.
Multiple file (batch) processing:
(1) Open the TimeLine if it's not already open
(2) Pick a bunch of files to process as I described above.
(3) Set an output format in the TIMELINE menu under SEQUENCE CONTROLS. Make
sure you turn "Save Results" on also… otherwise, no output… we do that so
you can generate to the filmstrip to see if you're getting what you want before
you commit to output files.
(4) Drag in an operation (like contrast) on top of the first frame. You'll see
an arrow stretch to the end of the timeline… unless you drag in another op,
that op will be applied to all files.
(5) Drag in an area selection (entire image is common for contrast adjustments
and so on) on top of the operation. IF the area selection is something like an
ellipse, you then have to take the extra step of double-clicking on the
ellipse, and then "make the area selection now" so it knows where to PUT the
ellipse… this doesn't apply with the Entire Image tool, though. Again, you'll
see an arrow stretch to the end of the timeline… unless you drag in another
area selection, that selection will be used for all files.
(4) Start the timeline running.
From there, you should get what you want.
> More tutorials are needed, I think. I'm supportive of the on-line
documentation approach.
> I know how much easier and more timely it is for you I assure you. Content
is always the
> point though. In general, the docs look good.
Thanks for the positive approach. We know there can never be enough tutorials,
so tell us specifically what you want to know, and we'll put those in the top
of the heap. In the meantime, lets see how you feel when we've got your files
loading correctly and you've got batching down… I think you're going to like
this a lot… sure hope so!
We work on the docs _constantly_ and any suggestions you may have for us will
be taken quite seriously, I assure you. Comments by fax, email or snail mail
are just about pinned to the doc guy's forehead. 🙂
Ben Williams
for Black Belt Systems