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#Print 1 color ovr anothr

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#6359From: Bill GordonJan 26, 1990 12:23 PM
When I want to print one color over another (i.e., black type over solid blue background), is it important to reverse out the blue from the background where the black type will go? Does this cause registration problems? Is it important to reverse out the type when a lighter background (i.e., yellow) or a screened background (i.e., a 25% screened blue) is used? Thanks for any advice on this… -bg
#6416From: Miles WrightJan 27, 1990 12:21 PM
From my experience, we generally overprint the black layer…you will have registration problems if you cutout the letter's shape from the blue (or yellow) background, unless you trap your letter by stroking it. It is difficult for most presses to hold perfect registration…the darker your background color, the more noticable the white (or whatever your paper col color is) line will be when the letter doesn't land directly in your knockout. If your letter is, say, yellow on a blue background, you have to knockout your letter since the color (yellow on blue) will dramatically change the color of your letter….
#6450From: Don ArnoldyJan 27, 1990 6:34 PM
Bill – If you're overprinting BLACK, is better to NOT reverse out athe background. If you're overprinting another color, you have to reverse out the background to avoid color shifts. One of the trick that film houses use to get really good black backgrounds is to run 70% cyan behind it — it makes it MUCH blacker. If you are overprinting on an obvious pattern (like stripes) then you have to reverse out the background, or it will show through even black. — don
#6480From: Tripp NarupJan 28, 1990 12:09 AM
I've known color printers who printed *all* colors under the black to get a really dense, rich black. Sounds like overkill to me, but, hey, I'm not a printer…
#6538From: Martin GreenbergerJan 28, 1990 2:13 PM
to: Bill Gordon 76010,3466 from: Martin Greenberger 76116,1502 Subject: Printing black over color It is generally ok to print black over whatever other color. Sometimes you will see a color shift where the undercolor makes the black denser. Don't print 70% cyan under black, use about 30% or you will have a definite blue cast. Don't print 100% of all 4 colors–it is virtually impossible to print that much ink on multi-color presses, and it is very susceptible to color shifts.
#6545From: Don ArnoldyJan 28, 1990 5:31 PM
Tripp – It is overkill. There is also some danger in putting too many layers of ink over each other. I'm not a printer either, but what I've heard is — it can pick up the old layers of ink and leave white spots. — don
#6554From: Thom Hartmann <HiResOp>Jan 28, 1990 6:42 PM
It also causes the paper to stick to the blanket, as the old ink is "sticky" and when you try to lay new ink on top of it, they'll stick to each other…causing the press to "inhale" paper and get all choked up. –Thom