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Oh well, sorry – the point is still valid of course. Now that I have Whap running I can at least track the messages… John A. Toebes, VIII – via Whap!
This problem seems to happen to my 3000 every couple of weeks or so. The caps lock light blinked 3 times to indicate some internal failure. Powering everything down does make it go away. John A. Toebes, VIII – via Whap!
I would not count on seeing a BBS from SAS. For sales, call (919) 677-8000 ask for Book Sales For tech support you would call (919) 677-8009 and have your serial number handy. Note that I do not work for SAS anymore. John A. Toebes, VIII – via Whap!
What is it that you want to do with the preferences once you have them. In particular, the GetPrefs() function will not be very useful with the 2.0 version of the operating system as much of that structure has changed. They kept the routine there for compatibility, but any new…
Actually, it is to your advantage to continue to boot the Kickstart from the hard drive. While putting the kickstart in rom will eliminate the 3 second delay in booting and does give you back the extra 1/2 meg of ram, you loose a bit of performance and more importantly…
Given an investment in somewhere between 10 and 15 MILLION lines of code, it is unlikely that they will be changing languages anywhere in the near future. John A. Toebes, VIII – via Whap!
You will have to talk to them about it. I can't really say if they will ever consider it. It would depend on whether there is enough of a market for it or not. John A. Toebes, VIII – via Whap!
What is important now is that it will be VERY different. I am looking forward to a new challenge in my life. John A. Toebes, VIII – via Whap!
Certainly there is a lot of connection between the Software Distillery and BNR, 3 of our current members (now 4) are BNR people. One former Distiller is now at BNR in Ottawa. Other members are at SAS Institute and a few outer scattered companies. John A. Toebes, VIII – via…
As I commented before, you are better off NOT USING fork/exec in any form. While it looks easier and more in line with the unix philosophy, it doesn't allow you to take advantave of the Amiga resident commands. John A. Toebes, VIII – via Whap!
Of course I am still around. In fact, it looks like I might be a little more active here on CIS now that I am no longer a moderator on another service. I am putting as much distance between me and SAS as is possible, but I do expect to…
Usable language? I wouldn't go that far. It is extended to put in those things that Pascal is missing. The GURU med was quite good this year. The first time that everything has gone smoothly (well, we didn't have a human sacrifice for entertainment this time) Congratulations and welcome to…
Actually I don't take it personally – I no longer have anything to do with SAS/C. You should note however that the fork/exec method is not a good way for a make program to spawn tasks. You will note that the Manx method does NOT allow for invoking resident programs.…
It is my intention of continuing to do some work on the Amiga. I have to get my setup back to reasonable standards first. I suspect that initially my new job will take a bit of work to get into. FYI, I will be working for Bell Northern Research here…
The answer is that Manx did break the rules to make it work. When I wanted to implement a similar functionality in the SAS/C product, I was explicitely asked by Commodore not to include it in order to provide them the most breathing room with the 2.0 release. John A.…
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#John Toebes leaves SAS
Message #11732
Well it is certainly true. Of course it doesn't mean that I won't still hang around on CIS, just that I don't represent SAS or have any connection to SAS in any way shape or form. Definitely a change after 8 years at one place… John A. Toebes, VIII -…
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SAS/C 5.10A Patch
Message #5803
Book Sales has shut down for the holiday, but on January 2, you can just call (919) 677-8000 x5042 and talk to the Sales Person. They will be more than happy to handle getting you upgraded. If they have you in the data base it will be a snap, otherwise…
#5643-
SAS/C 5.10A Patch
Message #5802
Durn. One day I will figure out this message base here. If only I had Whap!. (Still waiting Steve and Jim 🙂 Nudge, Nudge…
SAS/C 5.10A Patch
Message #5644
The ARP execute is known to be broken. We have had a number of people complain about a similar problem. In fact a significant number of our calls (as much as half) to technical support are problems from people who are using ARP. There is nothing that we can do…
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#SAS/C 5.10A Patch
Message #5577
Well, look at what we have in SAS/C now. The SASCOPTIONS program allows you to select the options from a requester in english terms. It will then generate the options for the compiler in a file that the LC driver will pick up automatically.
Read the copyleft carefully. Just about any association with the GNU code will taint a product. I'm not saying that we won't include such an interface, just that it is very unlikely that we can do it inhouse.
Certainly more interactive online help is in the works. Expect to be surprised…
This is a useful idea. When generating a listing it is certainly possible, but for general compiler output people are pushing us to be more quiet about what we are doing (takes up less lines on the screen). An option seems like a good idea, I will see what can…
Well, it succeeds at scaring lawyers. The word at our company is pretty clear – do not use GNU at all. The copyleft agreement is inconsistent with our corporate directions. We want to be able to do forward development without having to set up separate mechanisms for distribution of source…
GNU in general scares me. The Copyleft smells too much of lawyers and legal battles to make me want to work with it. However we will make the interface available to people that want to support it. As for CPR, I know exactly what you mean and it has already…
Actually, I can't figure out how to get the original messages yet – gee, wouldn't a reliable Whap be nice 🙂 🙂 :-). I'm trying hard to keep up to speed here while other things are being done… Sorry if I got the wrong impression from the messages, one day…
Believe me, the compiler gets a lot of attention. If we were a small company with only one or two programmers it would be an issue of working on one verses the other. However with the resources we now have a SAS, there are 4 developers on the compiler/tools/libraries, 4…
Have you tried power typing mode? It does some of what you ask but not everything. Yes, for user interface on the options, the current one is clumbsy. We have already redone this for the next version. Click/drag select turns out to have some problems which have pushed it lower…
The bug list is part of the patch. As for 5.10a, one big thing that it fixes is a crash when running on the 68000 as well as several enforcer hits. Additionally it is a faster compiler in the process. You are right, if you don't have any problems then…
If you are using SAS/C, the code for calling directly is smaller than the code for calling the stub – plus you lose the stub to boot.
You wouldn't be asking for an (dare i say it) 'option' to configure how LSE does the brace indentation, now would you? It is already on the list of things to be done. The hardest part is designing the user interface for specifying it. As for tab stop setting, you…
We haven't done much to improve the defaults, but it does work with explicit (or relative paths) and we use it with NET: all the time. If you have specific examples of failure please let me know and we will put it on the list for 6.0.
We have C++ under the environment with about 55 modules. In general I have around 40 modules or so in the largest I do and around 15 on the average. We are playing with the environment to learn the limits and experimenting with tricks to improve the limits.
There are actually a couple of ways to deal with this. The simplest is to use smaller icons. We deliberately shipped large ones for the general market, but with smaller icons they will come up much quicker. You can also divide things into several sub directories and let the lmkfile…
Both are on 'the list' already. They have been marked for 6.0 target although the mark block with mouse is lower priority of course.
Note that I don't mind doing work to get it done… Of course it has never run on any of my machines. It must be that special extra nasty environment that I set up…
The 5.10a patch should have handled that better because it now passes the entire name to the editor. The interface is so simple as to be ridiculous. LC looks for a REXX port called (not get this) 'LSE'. If it finds it, it send a message to it in the…
Actually, a surprisingly high number of people actually use LSE (and like it). However we have included support for Cygnus Ed on disk 6. You will see more of this level of support in the future – limited only by the capabilities of the editor.
No, when I last talked to him he was going into the tools business. I was told that at AmiExpo in CA a couple of months ago he was showing a program which would find and play pictures on a hards disk no matter where they were scattered. (Of course…
Now if only Whap! worked on a 3000 I might be able to get on here more often… hint, hint steve…
You are welcome. We try to please.
Actually, we have gone a long way to incorporate the compiler/editor with the 5.10 release. If you have errors while compiling it will invoke the editor with the errors loaded and you can invoke the compiler/linker fro the editor. We are definitely moving further and further in this direction. Note…
If you choose not to download the patch from CompuServe, you may contact the Institute and ask for a free patch disk. The phone number is (919)677-8000, from 9:00 AM to 5:00 PM Eastern Standard Time. Ask for the Book Sales Dept. extension 5042. You can also send FAX requests…
#SAS/C 5.10A Patch
Message #4954
**************************** *** SAS/C VERSION 5.10A *** **************************** Wednesday, December 5, 1990 SAS Institute, Inc. would like to announce version 5.10A of their SAS/C Compiler for AmigaDOS. The new version, available free to all registered owners of the 5.10 release, comes in the form of a patch that is applied to…
But there is the ability to specify multiple lmkfile from the workbench and even to have pseudo-targets. Just set the default tool in the project to be LMK instead of LSE and it will run LMK on that file. If you shift click on an icon from workbench it will…
Many people have grown tired of the casts where the data type was 'obvious' to someone who had read 10 manuals and that is why it is in there. I have grown quite acustomed to it as it does make the code a bit cleaner without all the casts in…
No problem. I was just glad that I could help out.
SAS Institute will ship the patches if you call them. I am also uploading them here tonight for everyone on Compuserve to get access to them.
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Where's Manx???
Message #4941
I think that you will find that there are many things brewing for SAS/C in the future. In fact, we have just released the 5.10a update as an example of how much work we are constantly putting into the product. You might find that you can save a lot of…
Actually it is interesting that you choose this example because there is an option on the SAS/C compiler -cq which specifically eliminates these warnings for 'equivalent' structures. As long as the one structure is a proper subset of the other it will suppress the warning. reply
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