CompuServe Thread

#block used twice

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#93032From: Scott HancockMar 25, 1993 5:38 AM
I would appreciate any ideas on the following problem with a Quantum 105Mb HD driven by a Trumpcard Pro in a 2000. I bought this set-up used and have yet to get it working. (I am a rank beginner who has yet to figure out many of these arcanities like 'mountlist' and invisible directories that contain necessary files.) When I use the utilities that came with the Trumpcard, after some tangling with severe looking flashing red messages I was seemingly able to get the hd reformatted. I checked all the options including 'low level format'. The volume name changed indicating something was happening, but the thing won't boot itself or even appear on the workbench. When I try to let it reboot itself, a message come up saying "error validating UnTitled, block 153226 used twice". IVS has only suggested reformatting from a diskette boot, but this doesn't work at all as it can't see the Quantum drive. There is also a GVP series II accelerator with a 40Mb hd which is working ok (miracle!!). Any recommendations on books that clarify the deep dark secrets would be most welcome. It would make a nifty upload if someone who has traveled the road from IBM or MAC to/from Amiga could post a 'translation chart'. I have a feeling that there are some equivalents like "config.sys=devs:(contents)" or something like that. Thank you in advance for any advice on the 'block used twice' message. Scott
#93056From: Betty Clay/SYSOPMar 25, 1993 11:54 AM
Scott, I think the "block used twice" indicates that some program has gotten into a loop on the disk, but I'm not sure because I've never found a good explanation. ANyway, there are several solutions. First: Have you discovered HDToolBox? It is in the TOOLS directory of my workbench. I've found it to be very helpful and reliable. Second: there are two commercial packages of disk utilities that might help – Quarterback Tools and AmiBack Tools. Both are good, I hear. I don't own either. Third: there is a program here in AmigaUser libraries called FIXDISK that might clear up the "used twice" problem for you. You can easily locate it with cross-library searching. At any library prompt, type BRO FIX*.*, and that ought to bring it up. I think the CIS name for it is FIXDSK.LZH, but I'm not certain about the last part of the name. —Betty
#93249From: Scott HancockMar 26, 1993 8:52 PM
Thank you for your reply, Betty. I did try TDToolBox, but it can't see the Trumpcard HD. It seems to only be able to see A2091 driver. When I invoke it, it says "driver not installed". I guess I will have to try the commerical disk utilities because I'm on Cserve via my IBM laptop and cannot download to an Amiga disk. Unless there's a hidden way for the Amiga to read a DOS disk? Don't I need a Bridgeboard for that? Thanks again. Scott
#93285From: Betty Clay/SYSOPMar 27, 1993 1:56 AM
Nope. The Amiga can read MSDOS disks if you have 2.1 or if you have CrossDOS (which is included as part of 2.1). With CrossDOS, you just stick the MSDOS disk into your Amiga drive and it reads it. I does have to be a 720K disk. The Amiga cannot read the HD disks. —Betty
#93298From: Scott HancockMar 27, 1993 5:44 AM
Thanks again. That's helpful to know that it has to be a 720K. I was trying to use an HD. I'll try again. Scott
#93336From: Black Belt SystemsMar 27, 1993 2:37 PM
The 3000 can read 'em, Betty. –Ben …via AutoPilot
#93439From: Betty Clay/SYSOPMar 28, 1993 9:29 PM
Gee, Ben – I don't have those newfangled things like 3000 and 4000 and 1200 computers – just a pore ole 2500. Thanks for helping out when my hardware has put me a bit behind in information. But can ALL 3000's read the high density, or is it just some of them that got the high density drives? —Betty
#93455From: Black Belt SystemsMar 29, 1993 12:50 AM
Er… _4_000's :^) All 4000's, at least the 040-based 4000's which have bee produced thus far. Dunno what the new cripple will do. Maybe they'll put a 320k 5 inch drive in there to complement the EC030. Heck, if we're *really* lucky, maybe it's got a spanking new Kansas-City standard cassette interface on it. <mumble-gripe-whine> –Ben …via AutoPilot
#93500From: SyndesisMar 29, 1993 5:47 PM
No, the cassette drive interface is on the motherboard.
#93528From: Black Belt SystemsMar 29, 1993 9:44 PM
Oh… probably surface mount, too – they just never get anything right. :^) –Ben …via AutoPilot
#93536From: Betty Clay/SYSOPMar 29, 1993 10:41 PM
High density drives would be nice. I'll think about a 4000 – when it has SCSI. —Betty
#93653From: John GagerMar 30, 1993 11:23 PM
"Kansas-City standard cassette interface" Always the optimist, aren't you. Actually that would be too reliable. They would have to go to something like the TRS-80 model 1 cassette standard to cripple it even more 8^) // \X/ John – K7KB (Flying via AutoPilot)
#93733From: Black Belt SystemsMar 31, 1993 3:29 PM
A pessimist is what an optomist calls a realist. That's me. :^) –Ben …via AutoPilot
#93900From: Tom JonesApr 1, 1993 11:44 PM
KC standard, god what memorys that brings back. Will it ever be that much fun to hack again Dorothey? Tom
#93339From: Dave CinegeMar 27, 1993 3:09 PM
If you have a HD amiga drive it can read HD IBM disks. Dave Elite MicroComputers – Flying high on AutoPilot
#93293From: Christopher TolmieMar 27, 1993 2:59 AM
Scott, Which OS are you using? If it is 2.x then you have built-in read/write to 720K MS-DOS disks. If 1.3 then you can purchase CrossDos and add the ability to read and write 720K MS-DOS disks. Chris
#93299From: Scott HancockMar 27, 1993 5:44 AM
Thanks, Chris. I was trying to read an HD. Scott
#93311From: Christopher TolmieMar 27, 1993 9:02 AM
Scott, Oh, I see, yeah, you'll have to move that disk's contents to a 720K disk. Also, I should have said WB 2.1 and up. WB2.04 did not come with CrossDos support. Chris