#Metascan Won't Load
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Ben,
When I try and use the scanning software with IM v1.50B, after selecting
the module, I get sent back to the main IM screen instead of to the
MetaScan screen.
I re-installed v1.06r2 just to make sure that there wasn't anything wrong
my hardware and the scanning software worked fine. The I re-installed
v1.50B from scratch and still the scanning software wouldn't load.
Any ideas?
=Rick=
Ummm… out of memory?
–Ben
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Ben>Ummm… out of memory?
I sure like the way you guys addressed the 'Lowest common denominator'
question regarding memory in the tapes. It has been my feeling for a long
time that the LCD attitude among developers (except gammers) is/was a
detrement overall to the Amiga community. Coding every application for
the 2 MB machine with no hard drive really leaves a great number of people
frustrated.
I think you're right. In fact, you can see numerous examples in CBM's
behaviour with the Amiga system that contributed a great deal to the lack
of serious software: Some things that come immediately to mind are the NON
installation of ARexx on released systems, even recently; the lack of
Amigas with hard drives, standard, for way way too long… things like
that. I guess it's no longer a problem, though.
–Ben
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Ben,
I have 10 megs on my A1200, is that not enough memory? Plus, Metascan
works fine with version 1.06R2 of IM, it just won't work with the 1.50B
version I received recently.
=Rick=
Ben,
Just to clarify how much memory I have available before running IM:
Chip: 1,862,072 bytes
Fast: 6,562,216 bytes
Should that be enough to use the scan function? I'll try and call tech
support tommorrow afternoon if I get home early enough.
=Rick=
Rick,
That's not all that much memory, really – depends totally on how big the
area you are trying to scan. Let's say that you're scanning a 678×480
image. That's 768x480x4 bytes for the image, and 768x480x4 bytes for the
undo buffer, if you use one. Which turns out to be 1.47 megabytes each,
for a total of 2.94 megs. TO this you add the memory that IM takes, the
memory that Metascan takes… and 10 megs might not be enough. Some scans
are MUCh larger than 768×480; it's just a flick of the wrist to scan an
image that would take ten megs all by itself.
–Ben
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Ben,
But I haven't even got to the point of being able to define a picture to
scan becuase Metascan won't load after I select the epson scanner driver.
Oh well, I guess I need to call tech support.
=Rick=
Ben,
Ok, After a call to your tech department, the problem has been solved. I
have been launching IM from Toolmanager and it seems that between version
1.06 and 1.5 you guys tightened up the path/assign requirements. If I
launch IM from its icon, the scanning software works fine, however from
Toolmanager it does not. Your tech guy (Dave) thinks that ToolManager is
"swallowing" up the necessary assigns and/or paths. I guess i better dust
off the Toolmanager DOC's and see if I can work around this.
If you or anyone else has IM 1.5 worrking with toolmanager I would
appreciate your imput.
=Rick=
Hum – toolmanager, huh? And what, exactly, is Toolmanager?
–Ben
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Ben,
ToolManager lets you run programs from workbench via Dock Icons or by adding
the programs to the Tools pull down menu of workbench. I have a dock Icon
setup for IM to launch it from, but when I run IM from it it doesn't run
properly, I didn't have this problem with the 1.06 version. I can specify that
the program be run from workbench, or CLI, can add a path and default drawer,
but I can't seem to find the right combination to make it work.
Oh well, I guess I can always just "leave Out" the IM Icon, btw, ToolManager
is in the Amigauser forum library.
=Rick=
– Richard Graff, Written 18-May-1994 @ 08:29:42
Using: Windows NavCIS TE 1.2
Are you sure Toolmanager is in the AmigaUser library. I know there are
many support archives for it there, but I had to get my copy from a local
BBS, because the actual software wasn't available here. I think it's on a
Fish Disk, but I'm not sure which one. A search would give you the number.
Stephen Bailey
Sawyer & Bailey Film and Video CIS # 72773,2451
Stephen,
In Lib 15 of AmigaUser: TM21.LHA (ToolManager 2.1 archive)
– Richard Graff, Written 19-May-1994 @ 08:14:56
Using: Windows NavCIS TE 1.2
I see. What is (probably) happening is that ToolManager isn't passing
along the WorkBench paths. IM R/t has some CBM-supplied code in it that
captures the host paths from the workbench in a rather indirect manner;
this is probably broken by ToolManager.
It's *very* unfortunate, but when programs (such as IM R/t) are launched
from the WorkBench, they do not get the path information that WorkBench
itself was launched with from the shell. This is a crippling shortcoming
of AmigaDOS. The workaround in Imagemaster is fragile – and there's not
much we can do about it.
–Ben
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PMFJI, but I run IM r/t 1.5 from a ToolManager icon all the time. No
apparent problems I can see (except for that printing problem I asked
about the other day…maybe that's related???). Anyway, just thought I'd
chime in…
Stephen Bailey
Sawyer & Bailey Film and Video CIS # 72773,2451
Can you run ApAssist? And if so, what version of the OS are you running?
(This is in regard to using toolmanager)
–Ben
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ApAssist works fine. I am running WB 2.1.
Stephen Bailey
Sawyer & Bailey Film and Video CIS # 72773,2451
If the problem is related to Imagemaster's knowledge (or lack thereof) of its
environment, why not have Toolmanager launch a small AmigaDOS script file? The
script could simply 'cd' to the desired directory, set the stack, and call IM.
Blaq!
Sounds like it might work – but it's not me with the problem. :^)
–Ben
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Ben,
Toolmanager is a 3rd party 'hang on' which caused us no end of
difficulties when putting MetaScan together. Our main beta tester was
using it from time to time and all sorts of things didn't wanna work.
Thanks, Vic – it appears to be eating the WorkBench paths (such as they
are).
–Ben
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Ben,
Yup, that's the conclusion we came to, tho I think it actually keeps
all the WB paths that exist at the time it's run (I don't recall).
Ben,
Richard explained ToolManager pretty well so I won't say further on it
except it is an EXTREMELY popular program. As I am still on 1.06 myself I
cannot attest to 1.5 problems but I do run 1.06 from ToolManager too.
…Steve
====>>> Motorola 68030 Inside <<<====
Thanks, Steve. I guess I'll have to say that running IM R/t from
ToolManager is a bad idea at this point.
–Ben
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