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#silly to think

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#195058From: Paul AnticoApr 28, 1995 1:52 PM
A word about the Amiga: I was a proud owner and user both at my old job and at home. But the struggling Amiga market died when Commodore did. The pace of the computer industry has not let up, and now there are dozens of millions of IBM-PC's out there; Pentium computers alone account for a few million. (And the thing still can't animate as well as an Amiga could). Unfortunately, the Amiga is dead technology. Deader than death itself. It's silly to think that some new company will bring back the outdated technology from the ashes and make the Amiga live again. It can't and won't… not in its most recent incarnation, anyhow. Who the hell is Escom anyway? -P
#195061From: Gary KleinerApr 28, 1995 2:13 PM
Paul, It's obvious that the home you mentioned is not on the range. As you know, discourageing words are seldom heard there. Regards, Gary
#195088From: Bill ReevesApr 28, 1995 7:35 PM
Gary, This home is either in Buffalo or Rome isn't it? Bill
#195078From: Richard EricksonApr 28, 1995 6:19 PM
I don't believe it's dead technology, I think the Amiga operating system can still hold it's own against OS/2 and Windows. I am willing to wait and see if Escom really follows through. I think it would be silly not to see what happens. Richard -> AutoPilot on the A1000
#195091From: Asha DeVelderApr 28, 1995 8:41 PM
Paul, >Unfortunately, the Amiga is dead technology. Deader than death itself. It's silly to think that some new company will bring back the outdated technology from the ashes and make the Amiga live again. It can't and won't… not in its most recent incarnation, anyhow. I don't think the Amiga is that dead. Yes, she's in a coma, and she's a bit behind the times AT THIS MOMENT, but if Escom is serious (a fact we still have to wait to find out. It is possible that she can be revived. I don't (and never did) expect her to outsell clones or Macs, but she could be viable if the resurection (sp?) is successful. Skimming through the Redwoods on AutoPilot Asha
#195273From: Bart Van BockstaeleApr 30, 1995 1:31 PM
>>and she's a bit behind the times AT THIS MOMENT,<< Please explain “behind the times?'' Bart Van Bockstaele at 100574.2352@compuserve.com … On AutoPilot and Amiga all the way from Belgium …
#195394From: Asha DeVelderMay 1, 1995 6:56 PM
Bart, >>>and she's a bit behind the times AT THIS MOMENT,<< Please explain “behind the times?'' Wish you had quoted more so I know what you were referring to, but if you're just looking for a definition of "behind the times" it means not up to date. If there was more to your question, please repost and I'll try to answer… Skimming through the Redwoods on AutoPilot Asha
#195434From: Bart Van BockstaeleMay 1, 1995 11:54 PM
Asha, >> I don't think the Amiga is that dead. Yes, she's in a coma, and she's a bit behind the times AT THIS MOMENT<< Please explain “behind the times?'' I don't see why Amiga is behind the times… Bart Van Bockstaele at 100574.2352@compuserve.com … On AutoPilot and Amiga all the way from Belgium …
#195474From: Paul IdolMay 2, 1995 10:41 AM
Bart- It is, though. I have a 40MHz WarpEngine in my 3000, making it the fastest Amiga currently available, tied with a 4000 with a 40MHz WarpEngine, but both machines are WAY slower than the fast Pentiums and PowerMacs that are available for comparable prices. And the native Amiga display is, sadly, slower than what's available very cheaply in clone world for most tasks. As far as multitasking goes, I'd still take the Amiga, though OS/2 is catching up and has actually surpassed it in several areas. As far as pleasant user interfaces go, I'd take the Amiga, though again there are some features of other platforms that I'd like to see added. As far as applications… forget it. Word processing is my most important activity at this point, and neither of the two Amiga word processors have all the features I need. Otoh other platforms suffer from incredible feature bloat, so it's kind of a catch-22. But logic clearly dictates (<g>) that the longer the Amiga is in a coma, the further behind it will fall. Mr. Zombie
#195613From: Bart Van BockstaeleMay 3, 1995 5:31 PM
>>but both machines are WAY slower than the fast Pentiums and PowerMacs that are available for comparable prices.<< Isn't that because those machine are essentially used in mono-tasking? Logic dictates that monotasking will be faster for a single task which shouldn't be considered a bad thing. >>And the native Amiga display is, sadly, slower than what's available very cheaply in clone world for most tasks.<< I don't understand this one. Why is it then that PowerPoint is lousy and Scala good? >>Word processing is my most important activity at this point, and neither of the two Amiga word processors have all the features I need.<< Personally, I use TeX. I use the Amiga one and maybe the PC one too in a not too distant future since my boss wants to use it instead of the MS-stuff. It does everything I want it to do, so I don't really have a problem with that. >>But logic clearly dictates (<g>) that the longer the Amiga is in a coma, the further behind it will fall.<< That seems logic <sad g> Bart Van Bockstaele at 100574.2352@compuserve.com … On AutoPilot and Amiga all the way from Belgium …
#195647From: Paul IdolMay 4, 1995 12:01 AM
Bart- >>Isn't that because those machine are essentially used in mono-tasking?<< Nope. Amigas are perfectly capable of doing one task at a time. Their processors are just faster. >>I don't understand this one. Why is it then that PowerPoint is lousy and Scala good?<< Crappola software versus good software, and multitasking versus non-multitasking. Basically, they have much more bandwidth than we do at this point, but they don't use it very well in most cases. Mr. Zombie
#195738From: Bart Van BockstaeleMay 4, 1995 5:55 PM
>>Crappola software versus good software, and multitasking versus non-multitasking. Basically, they have much more bandwidth than we do at this point, but they don't use it very well in most cases.<< I fear that's the reason why I have to use an Amiga all the time. I have seen wonderful promises in the pc-world, unfortunately, I have nearly never seen things that actually worked. Bart Van Bockstaele at 100574.2352@compuserve.com … On AutoPilot and Amiga all the way from Belgium …
#195130From: john bennettApr 29, 1995 1:50 AM
All Escoms got to do is licence the Amiga Tecnology out to other vendors and they should do quite well from the start. Amiga clones are being developed NOW. And from what I hear my current VLAB-M will get quite a kick in the butt from one of these 060 machines. There may be a future for the AmigaOS yet. I hope. ….John
#195187From: GoettmannApr 29, 1995 5:12 PM
Paul, two words about dead technology and sillyness to think.. It was the fate of your so-called "dead technology" to be _miles_ahead_ from that of clone-PCs, even of Macs. Look at OS/2 and you will find multitasking and OOP properties; a decade after AmigaOS. Apple is trying to implement multitasking for the successor of System 7.5. Both with resource requirements ( or waste 🙂 like Un*x, but far away from its capabilities. I agree, that there may be some games for clones now whose properties come near the Amiga.So keep on playing… For info about Escom read the mails, please. regards, Dieter Goettmann jetting on AP1.80 from Karlsruhe, Germany
#195431From: Bart Van BockstaeleMay 1, 1995 11:54 PM
>>I agree, that there may be some games for clones now whose properties come near the Amiga.So keep on playing…<< I played Aladdin on the peecee. Ugly, very ugly scrolling. Bart Van Bockstaele at 100574.2352@compuserve.com … On AutoPilot and Amiga all the way from Belgium …
#195604From: GoettmannMay 3, 1995 4:12 PM
>> Ugly, very ugly…<< ..according to their overall plan 🙂 Dieter Goettmann jetting on AP1.80 from Karlsruhe, Germany
#195619From: Bart Van BockstaeleMay 3, 1995 6:05 PM
>>..according to their overall plan :-)<< I have to confess that I don't seem to get the point here. But yes, the scrolling they -and others- do on PC's is absolutely horrendous and gave us more than one headache. Which is why we use an Amiga. We *could* wait another 15 years to see that peecees emerge to those absolete possibilities of that old Amiga… Bart Van Bockstaele at 100574.2352@compuserve.com … On AutoPilot and Amiga all the way from Belgium …
#196082From: GoettmannMay 7, 1995 5:25 PM
Bart, sorry for having no belgium dictionary. >>..their overall plan :-)<< is like a conception under which You can summarize every activity and result. The results You and i know from a distant viewpoint 🙂 hope You will get the point, Dieter Goettmann jetting on AP1.80 from Karlsruhe, Germany
#196344From: Bart Van BockstaeleMay 9, 1995 7:49 PM
Dieter, Haha! I know what “overall plan'' means, I just wasn''t sure you really meant *that*! Now I do:====>>> I get the point! Bart Van Bockstaele at 100574.2352@compuserve.com … On AutoPilot and Amiga all the way from Belgium …
#195669From: Jim ButterfieldMay 4, 1995 8:22 AM
>> .. according to their overall plan… 🙂 There's a PLAN ????????????? Hanlon's razor: "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity". –Jim
#196083From: GoettmannMay 7, 1995 5:25 PM
Jim, obviously there is no plan visible, but even chaos results of order in detail… Dieter Dieter Goettmann jetting on AP1.80 from Karlsruhe, Germany
#195469From: EducomMay 2, 1995 9:24 AM
>Who the hell is Escom anyway? Escom does advert on three folded pages each month in many French magazines. Only IPC & Gateway have similar advertising campains ('talking quantity, not quality here)… Fred. Frederic Botton from Paris, France fbotton@cix.compulink.co.uk