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#Memory config

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#18178From: jeffJun 30, 1992 5:40 PM
I'll go one even further. Is there a way to get 3DS to run under Win3.1 and DOS5.0 with the latest HIMEM, EMM386 and SMARTDRV? Whether or not this is slow, is better than never using it. I've heard that this combination is now VCPI compliant and should run. When starting up 3DS (without WIN3.1 running) with my current config settings I get the following Message: "The 386 chip is currently executing in virtual 8086 mode under the control of another program. You must turn off this other program in order to use 386|DOS-Extender to run in protected mode." My config file is: DEVICE =C:\UTILITY\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS DEVICE =C:\UTILITY\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE noems x=c000-c7FF DEVICEhigh=C:\UTILITY\WINDOWS\setver.exe SHELL =C:\UTILITY\WINDOWS\command.com /P /E:750 BUFFERS =5 FILES =80 BREAK =off STACKS =0,0 LASTDRIVE =e DOS =umb,high My autoexec.bat file is: VERIFY off PROMPT $P$G SET COMSPEC=c:\utility\windows\COMMAND.COM SET TEMP=d:\temp PATH C:\utility\windows LOADHIGH C:\utility\windows\share.exe LOADHIGH C:\utility\mouse\lmouse.com C:\UTILITY\WINDOWS\SMARTDRV.EXE 5120 5120 rem call C:\UTILITY\NETWORK\PROGRAMS\NET.BAT win/3 I'm running a 486/33 with 20Mb of RAM. I'd appreciate a response and suggestions for a .PIF file. Thanks in advance, Jeff
#18395From: Craig Sharp [Mem TM]Jul 3, 1992 7:27 AM
Jeff: Personally, I don't see any reason why someone would want to run 3DS under windows… it isn't a multi-tasking environment in this case, so I don't think you can share processor time between 3DS and a Windows App. At any rate, I believe you will have to ditch the noems switch that you are using on emm386.exe… which probably means that you won't be able to get Windows to run… I haven't noticed anyone setting their system up this way and I haven't taken the time to decipher what is necessary to help those that are now interested in the Windows Player and running under Windows. I suppose it's more or less pioneer territory where the heavies at Autodesk are concerned. C#
#18432From: james hydeJul 3, 1992 5:01 PM
Craig, I think the ability to run 3DS under Windows is very useful. If all you ever use is 3DS then fine, but if you need a whole suite of applications available at the same time it makes work so much more productive. Especially when developing multimedia applications. James
#18439From: Craig Sharp [Mem TM]Jul 3, 1992 6:42 PM
Jim: Yes… but you are suffering some performance loss in a memory scheme such as 3DS uses when you are either providing all the memory that Windows can make available for 3DS and switching to another program is therefore slower, or you're giving Windows enough breathioff ng room and slowing down 3DS. As I understand it… all you're doing is using Windows as a task swapper in this case… and you might as well run DOS 5's task swapper. I agree that something that works like it would under OS/2 makes alot of sense. In fact, it would be smart of the Yost group to allow you to "Render in the background" while you do something else by allowing 3DS to manage the system <grin>. C#
#18458From: james hydeJul 4, 1992 3:17 AM
Craig, Running Windows, 3DS and Animator Pro in a 32 Mb system should be possible, I just set the amount of memory in the PIF file and use the System Box settings to control background operation. Granted Windows programs won't multitask yet but DOS programs do quite well. James
#18460From: Craig Sharp [Mem TM]Jul 4, 1992 8:51 AM
James: I'm saying that there is never enough memory for 3DS… and I sure don't see the benefit of allocating ANY of what I have to Windows since I would be more interested in getting 3DS to put out what I'm after as fast as possible (usually too late, too <grin>). Hey… I LIKE windows… and I expect to set up my machine with everything BUT AutoCAD, Animator Pro, and 3DS under Windows… but when it comes to crank it out time, move over pseudo-OS… gimme DOS. NT may be another matter… C#