#NEW AMIGA!
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ITS OFFICIAL, The new AAA chipset, RISC based, PC compatible Amiga is
at first silicon, rated at 10 times faster than the Intel 586 Pentium
offering `10-20 times better graphics than the AA chipset' cost
around wait for it… Five thousand pounds! to be available around
the middle of next year, Source:Amiga Format Magazine, interview with
Commodores head honcho, Me personally I'll leave a couple of years,
till they bring the prices down, but what a thought. This machine
will stuff Mac Quadra 950's for breakfast and wash it down with the
best that Intel can throw in, with Sega effecting immediate price cuts
on their not so wonderful Mega? drive, who says commodore are going
bust, NOT I *IcE*
Do you have the name of the "head honcho" that gave the interview?
I can never remeber his first name, PLEASANCE is his surname,
(spelling may be slightly awry!) 🙂
Yeah, I thought so. That guy has a really bad track record for
making "announcements" like this. I wouldn't put too much stock in
anything he says to any of the magazines.
Yeah, its true that you can't believe all you read/hear but would this
guy say these things if there was no hint of truth, later on the
competition would crucify him! I guess we have to wait and see, I
followed a `hunch' last time I was going to buy a 3000, but they said
a new machine with the AA chipset was on the way, so I waited, I'm
now the proud owner of a 4000.
What competition is that, Paul? Is there some company somewhere that
cares what CBM does? If so, who? and, why?
Yep you got a point there!
The term "loose cannon" comes to mind. <grin> (Or maybe loose
thermonuclear warhead?)
The term "loose cannon" implies that it should be fastened to a ship.
Is there a ship?
John:
The Flying Dutchman? Naw… Commodore is still there, maybe down to
rowboat size, but still afloat. (I didn't say anything about how many oars
they had in the water. <grin>) I'm doing my best to help bail with my
teacup. Don't know if it will do any good, but I'm stubborn and love lost
causes. <grin>
Clint <Chaocity>
They say that a Brit will always side with the underdog. Certainly my
opinion is that the very fact that a company such as Microsoft is so
big is the best reason I can think of to go somewhere else. Monopoly
might be a good game, but it's a lousy way to run an industry. Steve
the G. [BEDFORDSHIRE, UK]
As a businessman, I don't really see the Amiga as being
Commodore, rather I see it as being several million individuals
attempting to meet their computing needs. Being a small company, I
can come in contact with a few thousand of these individuals, and
still provide the personal level of support and interaction that I
want to be an earmark of my company. On a larger platform, I would
get more business, but I would be swamped by the numbers, and I would
have to become just another software house. Unfortunately, not all
companies take that attitude, but I can't answer for them, I can only
answer for me. <grin>
I won't believe it (about the new Amiga) until I see it. Also, at
that price, it can no longer be considered a home computer. For about
that price, you can get a Silicon Graphics Iris Indigo right now,
which runs rings around the Amiga. What makes you think that anything
put out by CBM that has the name Amiga on it is necessarily the best?
Thats for a base Iris Indigo… don't forget the massive amounts of
RAM & large hardrives needed.
Oh then there is that little thing called software… the Amiga has a
huge range of software. FAR more than anything on a Silicon Graphics,
which is by all intents and purposes a specialist machine. I have a
local user here who uses them…. I think he told me that a single
user license for Wavefront was something like THIRTY THOUSAND POUNDS
! not so cheap and useful now is it……yes it's a superb machine,
but it's certainly not the be all and end all. It's more of a niche
machine than even the Amiga, and will never be considered as
mainstream.
Can you imagine doing your home accounts or Comms on an Indigo…. NO,
so nuff said.
P.S. Amiga 4000 + Toaster (Lightwave) + Screamer…. and who's running
the rings now.
On AutoPilot Over Hong Kong
First, Silicon Graphics is bigger than Commodore.
Second, the Screamer uses SILICON GRAPHICS processors (MIPS R4400's).
Third, the original price quoted for this mythical Amiga was 5000
pounds, which is about 7500 dollars. For that amount you can get
much more than a base Indy which is only 4995 dollars.
Fourth, while software may be expensive for Silicon Graphics machines,
I bet their developer base is growing much faster than Commodore's.
Plus, Windows NT now runs on Silicon Graphics machines, so they've
got the zillion cheap Windows programs to run now, also. I've
already seen shrink-wrapped Intel/Windows software running unchanged
on a new RISC box (not from Silicon Graphics) which was using a MIPS
processor.
Fifth, It would be a mistake to ignore Silicon Graphics as a niche
player. Having said that, I will grant you that the size of the
Amiga installed base is 20 times that of Silicon Graphics! But
obviously a lot of what Silicon Graphics sells are the big expensive
(30,000 dollar and up) boxes.
Sixth and last, if you read the financial reports of Commodore and
Silicon Graphics, you will see that one of the company is overflowing
with "vision" while the other makes excuses about unfriendly exchange
rates adversely affecting performance.
Silicon Graphics doesn't own the MIPS processor. Sorry, just had to
make the correction. More than just SGI use that same processor.
>First, Silicon Graphics is bigger than Commodore.
So? You could argue the point that Commodore has many more machines
out there then SG (and I'm not just talking the Amiga here)… it
still ends up a pointless argument
>Second, the Screamer uses SILICON GRAPHICS processors (MIPS R4400's).
>Unfortunatly it's not a "Silicon Graphics" processor, it's an independent
>processor… thats like saying the Intel 486 is an "IBM" processor, it
>isn't….
>Third, the original price quoted for this mythical Amiga was 5000 pounds,
>which is about 7500 dollars. For that amount you can get much more than
>a base Indy which is only 4995 dollars.
And what are you going to do with this "base" machine… very little
from what I have been told, an SG users out here tells me that for
the machine to REALLY be useful it needs 64megs of RAM… this is
taking into account what you would be doing on the machine… of then
there is the monitors the Hardrives…..
>Fourth, while software may be expensive for Silicon Graphics machines, I
>bet their developer base is growing much faster than Commodore's. Plus,
>Windows NT now runs on Silicon Graphics machines, so they've got the
>zillion cheap Windows programs to run now, also. I've already seen
>shrink-wrapped Intel/Windows software running unchanged on a new RISC box
>(not from Silicon Graphics) which was using a MIPS processor.
EXPENSIVE !!!!!!!!! thats an understatement if ever I saw one !! fine
having a $5000 box if you can't affored the other $50,000+ for the
software.
>Fifth, It would be a mistake to ignore Silicon Graphics as a niche
>player. Having said that, I will grant you that the size of the Amiga
>installed base is 20 times that of Silicon Graphics! But obviously a lot
>of what Silicon Graphics sells are the big expensive (30,000 dollar and
>up) boxes.
I'm not saying that we can't ignore the SG, yeah it's got it's place
in the market, and no doubt it will always have it's devotee's just
as the Amiga has.
>Sixth and last, if you read the financial reports of Commodore and
>Silicon Graphics, you will see that one of the company is overflowing
>with "vision" while the other makes excuses about unfriendly exchange
>rates adversely affecting performance.
This has no relevence at all… so Commodore have a bad year, big
deal, how can you equate financial results to "overflowing vision" !
Sorry I'm not trying to put down the SG or lay any claim to this non
existant Amiga…. but end of the day each computer has it's own
market, and lets leave it at that.
Tim
On AutoPilot Over Hong Kong
PMJI here, but SGI certainly has it's act together, while CBM dosen't.
Yes it's true that software for an SGI is CONSIDERABLY more expensive
than Amiga apps, the prices of the stuff is falling fast. Last year,
a full blown version of Alias Power Animator cost over $50,000! You
can get an even better version now for around $20,000, and while
that's still too expensive for the average user, the point is that
prices for the stuff is falling fast. When you can by a base Indy
for under five grand, the application prices will follow suit. THey
have to, as the *low* end is catching up to the *high*, and we'll all
see a meeting of the two very soon. What CBM has to is adopt a RISC
based achitecture, and soon, if it wants to be able to run the type
of software that people will demand. The one thing about the Amiga
that always blows my mind is how awfull most of the software for it
is, while SGI stuff shines.
-GT
What's so awful about Amiga software? I have yet to come across a
commercial product I really don't like, either games or apps. I
haven't seen too much PC comms software, but if anybody can show me
something to match Term3.1, I'd be surprised. And how about DPaint
IV? You won't get anything that cheap, sophisticated and functional
on the PC. zzzzz….. The Sandman…..
>blown version of Alias Power Animator cost over $50,000! You can get an
>even better version now for around $20,000, and while that's still too
>expensive for the average user, the point is that prices for the stuff is
>falling fast. When you can by a base Indy for under five grand, the
Thing is how far are they willing to drop it… and do you know what
make people drop prices… competition… who's the competition ? The
Amiga of course, hey Lightwave is starting to get some infuential
people noticing (Mr. Spielberg springs to mind), considering the
total cost of the toaster package it can do some amazing things.
>The one thing about the Amiga that always blows my mind is how awfull
>most of the software for it is, while SGI stuff shines.
In what way is it bad? I have many applications, they all do what I need,
but then again if you compare to top end software on other systems then
yes, some of the stuff is lacking the polish… but then again who is
willing to pay thos premium prices?
I can still do many things on my Amiga without all the bells and whistles
of alot of these overpriced packages.
Tim,
> yes it's a superb machine, but it's certainly not the be all and end
all.
It's more of a niche machine than even the Amiga, and will never be
considered as mainstream.
I never said the Iris Indigo was the be all and end all. What I'm
saying is that the Amiga is NOT the be all and end all either. Also, the
Amiga will never be considered mainstream either.
It's funny how the PC has vastly more software than the Amiga, but
for some reason that doesn't count with certain Amiga users. They
still say the Amiga is better than a PC. Mention a Mac, and they say
it's overpriced. Mention an Atari and they sneer. But mention a new
Amiga that's supposed to cost more than a Mac and all of a sudden
price doesn't matter anymore. Mention the Iris Indigo, which is
certainly more powerful than any current Amiga and all of a sudden
the amount of available software and the price does matter. I think
some people are brainwashed. Mention anything with the Amiga name
and all of a sudden it's automatically the best computer of all time.
Gee, we must really be geniuses for being one of the select few who
had the foresight to buy the only good computer out there, right? 😎
It just bothers me when people leave messages to ALL, where they
assume that we're all a bunch of brainless dyed-in-the-wool Amiga
fanatics, who are all in some sort of Amiga club together, when the
reality is that we probably have very little in common with each
other, except for the fact that we all own a variation of the same
appliance; namely the Amiga. What prompted my last message was that
someone said the alleged new Amiga will eat the Mac Quadra for
breakfast. Aw, come on! Is that what this is all about, trying to say
the Amiga is a better computer than the Mac? That's sophomoric kid
stuff. Then again, maybe the person who left the message was a kid;
but I don't know. But I do want that person to know that there are
many adults here that don't believe in the "Amiga is the only
computer worth owning" myth.
It's similar to the old adage about baseball. No team is ever as good
as they appear when they're winning, nor as bad as they appear when
they're losing. The Amiga is not as good a computer as some people here
would have you believe, nor are the other computers as bad as some people
here would have you believe.
Techinically, the Amiga, whilst slow, is years ahead of any
Intel-based machine. Sure, the '040 might only do 40mHz, but you get
a lot more out of that 40 mHz. I'm not brainwashed, either. I own
both a PC and an A1200HD, after owning an A500. The PC is great for
uni, and has a bigger variety of software available, but there is no
way I would choose Windoze over Workbench. Mind you, this is all my
opinion, you may think differently. BTW, just because a machine is
the most popular, does not mean it is the best.
>It's funny how the PC has vastly more software than the Amiga, but for
>some reason that doesn't count with certain Amiga users. They still say
>the Amiga is better than a PC. Mention a Mac, and they say it's
>overpriced. Mention an Atari and they sneer. But mention a new Amiga
>that's supposed to cost more than a Mac and all of a sudden price doesn't
>matter anymore. Mention the Iris Indigo, which is certainly more powerful
>than any current Amiga and all of a sudden the amount of available
>software and the price does matter. I think some people are brainwashed.
>Mention anything with the Amiga name and all of a sudden it's
>automatically the best computer of all time. Gee, we must really be
>geniuses for being one of the select few who had the foresight to buy the
>only good computer out there, right? 😎
End of the day I always say pick the computer that most suits your
needs, for me, only the Amiga can do that for me…. hey the Clone
world might have loads of software, it still does nothing for me…
problem is in the clone world the hardware is like a big white
Albatross… I could go on and on, unfortunatly computing has always
been a minefield… there is no right or wrong just compromise.
I know one thing for sure I do not want back my Apple IIe ! ;^)
> It just bothers me when people leave messages to ALL, where they assume
>that we're all a bunch of brainless dyed-in-the-wool Amiga fanatics, who
>are all in some sort of Amiga club together, when the reality is that we
>probably have very little in common with each other, except for the fact
>that we all own a variation of the same appliance; namely the Amiga. What
Good point. I made a point in the Amiga International echo recently
that went something along the lines of it's only the ignorant or the
jealous that think the Amiga is a toy.
>prompted my last message was that someone said the alleged new Amiga will
>eat the Mac Quadra for breakfast. Aw, come on! Is that what this is all
>about, trying to say the Amiga is a better computer than the Mac? That's
>sophomoric kid stuff. Then again, maybe the person who left the message
>was a kid; but I don't know. But I do want that person to know that there
>are many adults here that don't believe in the "Amiga is the only
>computer worth owning" myth.
Yeah it is kinda childish when people do that…. To me all systems
have there place… for some that place is in history… god rest
that original Apple II that I started out on :^) Each computer has to
be rated on it's merits for that time in history, just think in a few
years time the computers we are using will be total dinosaurs.
I read that article. I know it was an interview with David Pleasance,
but I've checked my sources and he was in a strange state of fantasy
existence when he started talking about that. It certainly caused a
few laughs in West Chester. I have NO idea what possessed him to say
that stuff about an NT Amiga, but the machine he outlined is fantasy.
Thing is Denny, if it's all untrue, why would Commodore in the US
allow him to even make statements like that… I thought he worked
for them.
Seems kinda strange to me, unless David was closer to the bone that
Commodore wanted to let on ??? Only time will tell I suppose.
Tim
On AutoPilot Over Hong Kong
"Commodore in the US.." is simply a marketing company. They
are not the controlling organization. That organization is Commodore
International, headquartered in the Bahamas.
I think the real answer is that if he didn't make up stuff like that,
the magazines would have no reason to even talk to him.
That statement about Dave Pleasance just isn't true. The UK is the
biggest market for C= with about one and a half million Amigas sold.
There are about 6 or 7 magazines dedicated to the Amigan with Amiga
Format being in the top fifty most popular magazines (of any sort). I
know many of the reporters in those magazines and how much they value
an interview with Dave.
I remember many months ago being laughed at when I mentioned the
Amiga32 console, although at the time of my posting it's actual name
hadn't been decided. I also posted about this new "AAA" Amiga about
three months ago and was again derided.
Time will tell.
Considering his previous track record, I stand by my statement. And
further, he has no business announcing anything. That should come
from CBM in the US where development is done. "Announcing" things
this far in advance does nothing more than keep people from buying
machines now. And even worse, it disappoints people when it doesn't
come true.
CBM isn't where development is done, so why should they be in charge
of announcing things. CBM happens to be located in the same building
as CIL (Commodore International Limited) and CISCO (Commodore
International Services Corporation — the company Engineering works
for), but so what?
I simply meant that announcements should come from official sources
in Commodore, not some guy shooting his mouth off trying to look
important to a magazine.
The president of any given Commodore subsidiary seems like about as
"official" as any source gets. It's not like Commodore has any
global marketing or PR department which could be any more
"official." Of course, without such a mechanism, you probably want
to place more credence in unofficial statements of people in the know
then in any "official" announcements 🙂
Well, given his track record, I give him 0 credence. 🙂
Steve
>Well, given his track record, I give him 0 credence. 🙂
Strange, what track record?, he's only just taken over from Kelly Sumner
who was the previous head of Commodore UK. David has yet to have a track
record, and lets also add at how well Commodore UK is doing, they are
certainly doing something right in the UK.
Tim
On AutoPilot Over Hong Kong
I was refering to his track record of "announcing" things like this,
which was discussed to death here the last time he "announced"
something. I base my opinion on that and it was reinforced by what
others have already said here in other messages.
If you believe that a new Amiga running on a new processor running
Windows NT that'll be aimed at business will still be able to run the
Amiga software that's out today…. Well, that's up to you. To me
it sounds more like a PC with some of the Amiga graphics chips in it.
It wouldn't be an Amiga at all.
And that may be one of Commodore's problems… Considering the
company's global market (as small as it may be getting…) there
should be a global PR manager. AND they should be active! (Why is it
that I still haven't seen a single Commodore ad, in any media, about
the CD32? And its supposed to challenge Sega???)
>Why is it that I still haven't seen a single Commodore ad, in any media,
>about the CD32?
Because you are in a market (the US) where CD32 is not available. Why
advertise something to someone who can't buy it?
BTW, a PR person wouldn't be responsible for advertising anyway. That
would be a Marketing person.
Dale Larson
– An Amiga Software Engineer with less and less time on his hands.
I've seen a CD32 advert on German TV. It was weak. It showed no
screen shots of running software, just some robots head exploding as
he plays a game on it. I've seen it only once. In the mean time I've
seen SEGA CD and INTENDO adverts constantly on both German and Dutch
TV. If that is the way C= plans to push CD32 over here, I'm selling
my stock. Charlie…
"I've seen a CD32 advert on German TV. It was weak. It showed no screen
shots of running software, …"
Hey, remember when C= used to have all those great V20 and C64 ads in
all those magazines with a couple-dozen screen shots of all different
software? That's one of the examples of how they used to do it
right.
Michael-
They are advertising in Europe (especially the UK) where it is currently
available. I am sure we will see _something_ when it is released in the
states. Around January….
-Jonathan
// Amiga online via Autopilot
\\// MAC Quadra 700 & 486 emulation via Amiga!
Jonathan,
January is too late, imho. Video game machines have their peak sales
during the Christmas season. These sales easily drown out the sales
occuring during the rest of the year. If C= is hoping that a January
release will allow them to develop a market presence such that it enhances
the following Christmas' sales, I think they have another think coming.
By Christmas '94, it will be too late as the other machines will almost
certainly have captured the market with their larger advertising budgets.
So the Head of Commodore UK is not an official source ?? if he isn't,
then who the hell is ?? I doubt very much David needs to look
imprortant to anyone, why should he.
Tim,
Do you really want (need?) to believe this A5000 story? It can't be true.
IT simply can't be.
-mark=
Otto Pilot Engaged..
Why can't it be true?
I see nothing in there that isn't possible with current hardware
technology.
I'd bet a higher price, but a lot of Akiko type chips in there could lower
the cost considerably.
Bob Comer — Flying high and fast with my A1200HD'030 on Autopilot!
From Cheyenne, Wyoming U.S.A.
Presumably by "Akiko type chips" you mean ASIC (Application-Specific IC's
— kinda like a mondo gate array). The whole point of such a chip is to
reduce parts counts by integrating a few general-purpose chips into one.
Having "a lot" of them doesn't make sense.
Akiko saves a few dollars in a very price-critical system. It helps a
system sell for $399 that might otherwise sell for $450 or something (I
don't know exact numbers and would produce them if I did). It could make
a high-end system sell for $1999 instead of $2099 — if you were lucky.
See, Akiko works in CD32 because CD32 doesn't have all the standard
computer ports, so you don't need the full functionality of two 8520's,
etc. By integrating what would otherwise be a gate array or two, two
8520's and other miscelany into a fairly small package, you get a big win.
This small package doesn't have as many pins as all the other packages
combined, because they aren't all needed in CD32. If you had to have all
the lines from the 8520s, for example, the expense of the ASIC packaging
(with the extra size and pins) might offset any savings in the reduced
chip count. It'll probably happen anyway because there are reasons to do
it other than parts cost, but it isn't going to drastically reduce the
price of systems.
That issue aside, there isn't much else left to put in a second ASIC
anyway. You could get a hybrid chip to integrate a bunch of the analog
circuitry, but I don't think the EE types call that an ASIC. The custom
chips aren't a candidate for integration. The AA and any future Amiga
custom chips have a high transistor count. You can't integrate them much
further because there aren't economical processes (if any at all) to
manufacture the resulting monster chip. Look at what an 040 or 486dx or
pentium or 060 cost…
Dale Larson
– An Amiga Software Engineer with less and less time on his hands.
>Do you really want (need?) to believe this A5000 story? It can't be
>true. IT simply can't be.
Well you can see my other reply to you on this matter, but to be honest
you are reading the article too "literally".
As for how true to what the configuration of the machine will finally be,
only Commodore themselves know that.
I'll see you back in here in a years time to discuss this further… we
should know alot more about it then.
Tim
On AutoPilot Over Hong Kong
Dale,
Does your closing indicate rehire? Or are you finding work with another
company? If you want to move south, RGB is hiring and looking for a
director of technical projects. Maybe you could straighten them out –
they need it!
wmc – via Autopilot!
I haven't been rehired at Commodore and haven't accepted a position with
another company — I'm keeping busy with my own projects. I should have
something more to say about that in the near future…
What is RGB other than Red/Green/Blue, and why do they need straightening
out and how far south are they?
Dale Larson
– An Amiga Software Engineer with less and less time on his hands.
Dale, RGB is the companytha puts out AmiLink. Its an Amiga based
VLAN (video local area network – RS422, really) driver package with a
fairly nice user interface for linear editing. Unfortunately they
are suffering from prima donna programmer disease. The programmer
may know Amiga software, but he knows little about editing. So he
implements little items like edit list ripple the way he wants, not
the way the industry/users want. His manager is apparently not
strong enough to deal with the recalcitrant behaviour. Meanwhile the
user interface gets convoluted and hacked so the programmer can save
his ego while the users are beginning to fume.
The company is in Riviera Beach FL which, I believe is in North Dade
county near West Palm Beach. You can live pretty cheap in FL – like
rent a 3br 2bath house foraroune $500-$700 a month. Out here you
can't touch a studio for that!
Sounds neat, but I'm not a video guy.
Why shouldn't Commodore UK announce things ? After all the UK IS the
biggest Amiga market… if your statment was true, then why wasn't
the CD32 launched in the US first ? …. says something about which
market they think is most important.
As for annoucing machines far in advance, we all know that Commodore
has changed the way they do announcments… hell we have known about
the AAA chip set for ages. To be honest announcing early has the
added benefit of letting people know which direction the company is
heading, and at least people KNOW that continuing work is being done.
The only people who dismiss it right out of hand are those that DON'T
want to believe that Commodore might actually be moving on to bigger
and better things, I know *I* would rather listen to Dave Pleasance
then to someone who is a friend of a friend of an employee who
"thinks" it's all bull. Surely the fact that David Pleasance is the
Head of Commodore UK stands for something ?
I don't think that someone that's talking about what may or may not happen in
the future should be talking about it. It can only hurt the platform if the
promised features don't come about.
Look at the article where Pleasance talks about this stuff. He says this
machine is going to be an "Amiga Power-Pentium". I've heard of Power-PC, and
Pentium…. What's a "Power-Pentium"? This is the sort of thing that I mean
when I said he doesn't know what he's talking about.
Steve
>Look at the article where Pleasance talks about this stuff. He says this
>machine is going to be an "Amiga Power-Pentium". I've heard of Power-PC,
>and Pentium…. What's a "Power-Pentium"? This is the sort of thing
>that I mean when I said he doesn't know what he's talking about.
You haven't read the article very clearly have you. It was Amiga Format
who said, and I quote, …. "So what your talking about is an Amiga
Power-Pentium [RISC based PC] machine?" to which David response was, YES.
This does not MEAN that it WILL be a "power-pentium", it was a round about
way of saying it will be based on RISC technology.
You have to read a little into what was being said… don't take what was
being printed at face value…. what was happening here was that Amiga
Format were "fishing" for information, all that David implied with this
response, was that YES Commodore are going to be moving to some sort of
RISC based computer at some point in the future. It's as simple as that.
This might not change your opinion on him, but I feel you have
misinterpreted what was being said.
Tim
On AutoPilot Over Hong Kong
You're right about the perils of announcing too far ahead of delivery,
but damned if Microsoft doesn't get away with it! <g>
–MR
Who was laughing at you? It sure wasn't me, since I was involved
with development of the Akiko chip in CD32, and with early prototype
system testing.
Denny… It's possible, isn't it, that West Chester wouldn't know
anything about it? Hey–I keep hoping! Marion CROSSINGS Newsletter
for PC/Mac emulation
Trust me — it's bogus. It doesn't even make any sense… It doesn't
address any of Commodore's current markets, it doesn't makes sense in
the NT market, etc.
Pleasance has often shown he knows very little about the technical
aspects of the products he's selling. The best I can figure is that
he took Eggebrecht's pie-in-the-sky potential futures, combined the
ideas, and thought that would be the next product.
West Chester would have to know — that's where all of Commodore's
hardware development takes place. If this is indeed the next machine,
somebody had probably better tell the engineers about it soon so they
can get started on developing it. <g>
Denny…
Good point!
Marion
We got tired of laughing a long time ago. Now we just shake our
heads. Dale Larson – An Amiga Software Engineer with less and less
time on his hands.
Amen, brother…
I have noticed that your "by line" has changed… Does this indicate
some new movement at commodore ? I hope I hope I hope…
Yeah, I shake my head at Commodore now and again. Also, at IBM,
Apple, Microsoft…
Dale,
Why did you change the way you sign your name? Are you back at
Commodore or working somewhere else?
Peter D'Angelo
Nope, I just get more and more busy all the time…
Strewth Paul ! I I beleived everything in Amiga Format pigs could
fly 🙂 however, on the basus it may be just a tiny bit true I will
start saving now.
10 times "faster"? Is this in terms of clock speed (if so, there is
no way it can be possibly be certified Class B, too much RF noise) or
actual throughput (MFLOPS, MIPS)?
Your guess is as good as mine peter, I only quoted the magazine, and
judging by the responces, maybe I shouldn't have bothered. Hey I
like being an optimist, its gotta happen one day, why not the middle
of next year for the next big step, maybe some clever guy from sony,
worked out a way to deal with the RF problem, but when they start
talking 64bit Risc systems, you only have to look back to see how far
we've come in such a short time, hell I remember programming the 1K
sinclair ZX81! *IcE*
So you're another ZX81 user. :^) I remember when I got my 16K memory
expansion and people considered me a power user. ;^) Sure did take
a long time to load those bigger programs from the cassette though.
So the phrase "RAM Wobble" brings you out in a cold sweat too huh? 🙂
Not any more. ;^)