#Simple Stuff
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Bill,
Well I tried to comprehend as much as I could from the manual. As usual,
I'm a bit confused, so I think I'll wait until you're available to help me
combine the two disks. The one plain JRCOMM to the Workbench JRCOMM. It
says the first thing to do is set the palette to 2 colors in the manual but
the screen tells me I can't change workbench colors, or something like
that. In the mean time I'm gonna keep "playing" with it. Maybe work on an
article for my newsletter with ProWrite.
Enjoy your day.
Jacquie
Hi Jacquie –
Since you have a 2000, you have 1 meg of RAM. The place where Jack says to
cut back to 2 colors is in the section for users with only 512k of memory.
It doesn't apply to you, so don't worry about it.
I just installed JRComm on a workbench to refamiliarize myseslf with the
procedures. Jack made it very easy by providing a script for all the
tedious work. Here's what we need to do.
1. Place the copy of the workbench we called JRComm the other night,
and place it in DF0:
2. Place the diskette with the JRComm archive and the files broken out
from it in DF1:
3. Reboot the computer.
4. Double click on the JRCOMM icon to bring up the workbench.
5. Double click on the Shell icon.
6. Type COPY C:LHARC RAM:
7. Type COPY DF1:#? RAM: (Note: Jack's script works from RAM: to
DF0:, so we are just accommodating him with steps 6 and 7.)
8. When the prompt returns, type EXECUTE RAM:WBSTRIP (to execute
Jack's script.)
9. Type Y when the script asks if you are ready to continue.
10. Wait until the script finishes executing. (Mine ended on an error
message, but that was AFTER the important things got done.)
11. Type ENDCLI. (JRComm is installed on the boot disk at this time.)
12. Close the workbench window by clicking in the close gadget (the
square with the dot in it).
13. Reopen the workbench by double clicking on the JRCOMM icon.
14. Resize the window (remember how we did this to the shell window the
other night… click in the gadget in the lower right hand corner, and pull
the window until the shaded areas on the window disappear, then release the
mouse button.)
15. Double click in the JR-Comm icon.
16. Once the program loads up, we are going to be using the pull down
menus, just like the other night.
17. Find the column marked OPTIONS, and select item GENERAL A8 (I can't
make a key sign with this editor <grin>)
18. Find the column marked PATH, and click in the box named UPLOADS.
[ MORE ]
[ continuation ]
Type DF1: and hit return.
19. Do the same with the box named DOWNLOADS.
20. Click in the close box at the top of the screen.
21. Find the column marked TRANSFERS on the pulldown menus, and select
the PARAMETERS option.
21. Click in the circle marked CompuServe B+.
22. Click in the close box.
23. In the PROJECT pulldown menu, select WRITE DEFAULTS.
24. A requestor will appear. Just click on the SAVE gadget.
25. In the pulldown menu labelled PHONES (or PHONEBOOK – I forget
which), select the first item (again labelled PHONEBOOK)
26. Click on the ADD gadget in the requestor.
27. Enter Name: CompuServe.
28. Enter Phone: (whatever number you use to dial CompuServe)
29. Skip the MACROS and CAPTURE lines.
30. Enter Password: (Your compuserve password)
31. Click on the close gadget.
32. Click on the SAVE gadget, and again on the SAVE gadget on the next
rquestor.
33. You may now either quit JRComm (from the PROJECT pulldown menu), or
press your luck by going on-line. <grin>
34. JRComm is now on a bootable workbench diskette, and configured to
work CompuServe with a 2400 baud Hayes compatable modem.
Bill, K3OZM
Logging onto CompuServe with JRComm…. (from previous)
Boot up the computer with the JRCOMM diskette in place.
Put a blank, or mostly empty, diskette into DF1:
Bring up JR-Comm from the workbench.
Select PHONEBOOK from the pulldown menus.
Double click on the CompuServe line.
(The modem should now dial your local CompuServe number.)
On making connection, press the CTRL and C keys simultaneously.
Type your User ID when asked.
Press Right Amiga and Z simultaneously when asked for the password.
You should be in business!
Note: Downloads are configured to go to whatever disk is in DF1:
Bill, K3OZM
Okay, I'm on my way!
Jacquie
Howdy Bill,
Could'nt get past the second COPY line. Keeps telling me I'm out of RAM
space. I went back into the workbench area and discarded the notebook and
an extra "copy of Systems" I've had hangin there. Thought maybe getting rid
of those would help. I rebooted to start over and even turned computer off
and on again, but each time the last file is UserManual, and I get the RAM
full requester. What else is safe to remove? SAY?, or the EMPTY?
Jacquie
OK. Sounds like you have more than the RJComm files on DF1:. We'll just
do it the hard way then…..
(replacing the second Copy command at the shell) Type:
COPY DF1:Fonts.lzh RAM:
COPY DF1:JR#? RAM: (Copies anything beginning with JR on DF1: to RAM:)
DELETE RAM:JR#?ZH (Deletes the JRComm archive itself from RAM:)
COPY DF1:MODEM.MACROS RAM:
COPY DF1:WBStrip RAM:
Those should fit in RAM: without a problem. If they don't, scream again,
and we'll have to edit the script.
The rest of the procedure should be the same.
Bill, K3OZM
Hi Bill,
I thought everything went good until the last two COPY commands listed in
your very last message. Now, I kept getting bad arguments, so I added CD
DF1: lines in place of COPY DF1: then went to COPY MODEM.MACROS RAM: after
those two lines, I switched back to DF0:. Was that not right?
I still don't have JRCOMM with workbench. Was what I did the wrong thing to
do? It was the only thing I could think of. All the commands were correct
as far as I could tell. And, I continued the rest of the sequence as your
instructions were given.
Thanks, Jacquie
When you did the EXECUTE command, did you get the screen echoing back
things like "deleting excess files in SYSTEM directory", etc? The file
transfers to the workbench (JRCOMM) should have happened at that point.
What the execute script does is to delete a whole bunch of files you don't
need from the workbench, then installs the necessary JRComm files in the
space freed. From the Shell, type DIR DF0: to confirm the files were not
copied.
Also, do a DIR FONTS: and note what subdirectories you see there.
When you get that, leave a message, and I'll try to figure out where we
are.
Bill, K3OZM
Bill,
I will work on those tonite, but not sure if I'll get back to you before
tomorrow as we're having some crazy storm here. The connect time and
movement from opening to amiga user took along time, so I don't if I'll get
back to you tonite because of that.
We had a winter strom front come in and drop 2-4" of slushy snow at about
3:30 and at 7:30 we had a noisey thunder and lightning storm going while it
was snowing. Very strange, I've never seen anything like t that before.
Don't know what that was. Gonna go. Til tomorrow.
Jacquie
Morning Bill,
The storm is over and now it's just plain cold.
Yes, I did watch the deleteing files part. When I went to open the
workbench disk I noticed there was no RAM or shell. All I have is the
trashcan, prefs, utilities, and system icons. At the top it says 916192
Free Memory. So, I went back to the one of the copy lines and tried to put
the shell back in. I put the regular (copy of) workbench in Df0: and the
other workbench in df1:, used the copy command – COPY DF0: SHELL#? DF1: .
I checked df1: dir, and the two shell files are there, however, when trying
to open them I got a requester saying to put NEWCON in any drive.
NOW what did I do?
Are you sorry you met me yet? Jacquie
Good morning, Jaacquie. Glad your storm is over. Now all you have to do
is shovel the mess! (One of the reasons I moved to FL was to avoid
shovelling. <grin>)
Well, the script worked. For some reason, it deletes the shell. You can
do the same thing with the CLI, in the System drawer of your JRCOMM
diskette, though, so all is not lost. It works almost the same as the
Shell. Try doing a directory (DIR DF0:) using the CLI.
The JR-Comm and JR-Edit icons should be at the bottom of the workbench
window. You will probably have to resize the window (larger) to see them.
Since the script did all that, it should have done the rest of the job as
well. If you can't find those icons, go into the CLI and type the
following line:
DIR >DF1:NewJR DF0: Opt A
This will create a text file on DF1: called NewJR, which contains the
complete directory of DF0:. E-Mail that file to me, and I'll try to figure
out what went wrong and how to fix it.
Bill, K3OZM