#3D/XP
17 messages in this thread
(To sysop: please replace IPAS Newsletter! with this new message, thank you)
Here's the latest information on 3D/XP to all those interested.
1) 3D/XP is a new newsletter.It will be about using and PROGRAMING
IPAS and 3DS Scripts, as well as using 3D Studio with other programs.
It will be formatted very much like the book "3D Studio Special
Effects" but will also include product reviews, tips, Q and A's and
interviews. It will be uploaded to an FTP site on the internet and be
available to all. People will be able to "register" for a nominal fee
and these registered readers will get 3D/XP E-Mailed to directly to
them. They will also receive a hardcopy annual and index at the end
of the year. I hope to be able to also send out a companion floppy
disk or maybe even a CD-Rom in the near future. I am also exploring
the possibility of getting the best of each years contents published
in a book. This newsletter will be done as a group effort involving
all that wish to contribute in some way.
2) Anyone wishing to contribute should let me know what type of
article they have in mind and please DO NOT POST articles on the
forum (As Sanford Kennedy pointed out, that puts them in the public
domain)
3) Any IPAS developers who would like their products reviewed should
contact me for more information.
Getting this together will take time but in the end I hope most of us
will think it worthwhile.
Anyone wishing to help should contact me on the ASOFT forum or on the
internet at dmension@gate.net
As always
Thanks (and thanks for your patience, THIS WILL HAPPEN)
-David Camp
Are you keeping this newsletter in an ascii format so all of us who
only have Compuserve at our disposal can be e-mailed each issue?
Sounds like binary files, images, etc are not part of the monthly
issue, correct? Will this stuff come by snail mail on floppies or
just once per year or some other method?
I was thinking about dividing each issue into two files, one part
would be just the text in ascii and the other file would be binaries
(images, image ads etc.) . Those that can only download the text
would have to register to get the other file via "snail mail" on a
floppy or (hopefully) a CD. I'm also looking for other ideas for
distribution, got any?????
Keep in touch
-David
David:
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I'm also looking for other ideas for distribution, got any?????
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Maybe you could strike a deal with Jim Lammers and put the files on his
Renderplant BBS? Floppies by snail mail wouldn't be too bad, though.
Bob
Sorry I'm not familiar with Jim Lammers or his BBS could you please
enlighten me?
I was considering the CHAOS BBS, and the AVALON.CHINALAKE.NAVY.MIL
internet sites for dist. areas, also I hang out with the owners of
The Computer Room computer graphics shop down here in S. Fla. and
they are going to start a BBS at the end of the year. The Internet
still seems to be the best bet as far as money goes (I pay $17.95 per
month for a shell account with UNLIMITED access time! ) Anyway keep
the ideas coming Thanks -David
David:
Jim Lammers hangs out here in ASOFT and hopefully he will spot this
idea and comment. You might be right about the Internet, I could use
some compelling reasons to start net-surfing.
The internet is great. Period. Every time I log on to the 'Net, I
find something new and worth-while. I will continue to keep my
Compuserve account (And probably my AOL) but the net is by far the
best (and I just started surfing two months ago.
Got any pointers for internet interface software to run under Windows?
Any books which spell it all and include the software?
There are several kinds of internet access accounts. The graphical interface is
called a "SLIP" or "PPP" account. With these kinds of connections your computer
becomes it's own separate node on the internet. The other approach is to have
what is known as a shell account. The way this works is you connect to a host
computer (usually a UNIX server with a high speed data line) and that computer
is the node on the 'net. Your computer is basically a terminal connected to
this "Shell" computer. With a "SLIP / PPP" connection, when you get files from
, for instance, an FTP site, they go directly into your computer. Also you can
usually multi-task, ie while you're waiting for an FTP transfer to finish, you
could be having a "TELNET" conversation with someone. With a "SHELL" account,
when you get files via FTP, they go to the host computer, you can then download
them later.
There are pros and cons to each method. With a SLIP/PPP account you have a GUI
and can use graphical tools like MOSAIC, the down side of a SLIP/PPP connection
is that the speed is limited by the speed of your modem. Also cost can be a
factor (with my service provider, a SHELL account is $17.95 per month with
unlimited usage, a SLIP/PPP account is $29.95 per month plus $1.00 per hour
after 25 hours of use). A SHELL account is accessed in terminal emulation mode
(no graphical interface) and you can't multi-task, but file transfers to the
host are done via their high speed data line (you'll be amazed at how fast it
goes) and as I said cost can be a factor. I recommend that you contact your
local internet service providers and get the details from them.
Hope this helps (I did all this from memory, so if anyone notices any errors,
please let me know, thanks)
Bye
-David
David:
Thanks for the scoop on the net. I'll be jacking in soon enough.
Bob
My pleasure, any time.
-David
David:
>> The graphical interface is called a "SLIP" or "PPP" account.
>> Hope this helps (I did all this from memory, so if anyone notices any
>> errors, please let me know, thanks)
OK! Both SLIP and PPP are both serial line communication protocols, they have
nothing to do with graphics. SLIP stands for Serial In Line Protocol, PPP is
Point to Point Protocol. PPP is much more robust, that's the one I would
recommend.
Basically, your computer makes a connection to another computer which is on on
the 'net fulltime. Then another program is run to actually allow you to talk
to the other computer, this second program can be a text shell or a graphical
program, depending on what you want. Here I have a PPP connection to a local
provider who has a T-1 connection to the Internet. After PPP connects us, I
can then run a graphical program such as Mosaic, or a text program such as
'ftp' or 'gopher'.
Hope this clears it up, there is a ton of things happening on the Internet, not
the least of which is a good mailing list administered by Autodesk which pretty
much parallels some of the threads here on CIS – but it's free!
Greg Pyros
Thanks for your corrections on my internet note…. I knew I was close but I
wasn't sure. As far as the 3dstudio@autodesk.com mailing list goes, you are
absolutely right, it is fantastic. I learn a lot of cool tips and other useful
information there, I'd recommend it highly. BTW on the mailing list I'm known
by my net address name as "dmension" . Also do you have any new IPAS routines
you'd wouldn't mind telling us about????
See ya' later
(and thanks again)
-David
You can multitask with a shell account… ever heard of 'fg' and 'bg' commands
in the shell? And with a shell account, you can move files to your local hard
disk space, but you still need to pipe them to your PC's hard disk if you're
going to use them, so you're still quite limmited by the speed of your modem.
28.8s are $300 these days, so I'd get one no matter what.
I recently signed up for PPP with a local provider ($1.20 a minute, no monthly
recurring charge) and when I asked for a text-based shell account, they looked
at me like I had two heads. They couldn't figure out why I'd want one, and
they'd never had anyone ask for both PPP and text shell access. I found that
they didn't allow a 'telnet' to their own computers – I only had a PPP account,
not a text account. They do have text-only accounts for 60 cents a minute.
John
The only experience with the internet that I have is with my own service
provider. (I've only been 'surfin for about two months now) I have a text shell
account (for the moment , that's it). When I talked about transfer speed, of
course I meant to the host computer, I can then do my 28.8 "download" at my
leisure (I get five megs of space for free). With my provider, a text only
shell account has unlimited time for the monthly fee ($17.95). Do you really
think it's worth-while to have both a text shell and a SLIP/PPP account? The
more I think about it, the more I wish I'd thought about it <g> .
Thanks, -David
Get "Internet Unleashed" from "SAMS PUBLISHING" by various authors.
It is a great book and comes with terrific software.
Bye
-David
Yes, buy Windows NT 3.5 (aka Daytona.) It includes PPP support for making a
nice network connection, and everything else you need (Mosaic, telnet, mail,
etc.) are available in from freely distributable sources. Many of these
"Internet in a box" packages are just bundled versions of these freely
distributable programs. BTW, Windows 95 (aka Chicago) will have all these PPP
links, too, which means the Internet will get more and more clogged until it's
absolutely useless. 🙂