#A3000T-040 Sale
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Ok Gang I'm Ready to try again…
Be advised…this deal is only for those who are Power Mongers!!!
FOR SALE:
A3000T-040 (A3640 – 25MHz). 12 MB 80ns Static Column RAM. 2 MB Chip RAM. OS3.1
w/manuals and disks. 120 MB Quantum LPS120 Harddrive. 200 MB Seagate SCSI-2
Harddrive. EMPLANT Deluxe w/ROMs, version 5.1 software, MAC System 7.5 disks
and manual Retina BLT Z-III w/4 MB RAM. Toshiba XM3501B Internal Quad Speed
CD-ROM drive. Commodore 1960 multi-sync monitor. OpalVision Main Board
w/current software. SuperGen Genlock (external). Commodore HD floppy drive.
Zoom V.32bis 14.4 fax modem. DSS8+ audio digitizer. SuperBuster chip rev 11.
MicroSpeed Trackball. Curtis Command Center.
Software includes:
Imagine 3.0 w/ manual. ADPro 2.5 w/ manual. VistaPro Final Copy II. A bunch of
other stuff 3D/Graphic related.
For those who need a starting price…let's start the bid at $2700 and see what
happens! I would prefer to sell as a package to keep delivery costs at a
minimum. If, however, I get bids for certain items and they total what I'm
looking for for the package, I'll split it up. Remember, this system can do
practically everything an A4000 can and then some.
Alan Henry – Digital Plastic
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Alan,
It wouldn't be any fun to buy your machine…you didn't leave anything else to
buy for it! 🙂 Well, ok, a modem I guess.
Seriously though, it sounds like a very nice set-up.
<<It wouldn't be any fun to buy your machine…you didn't leave anything else
to buy for it! 🙂 Well, ok, a modem I guess.>>
Look again, there's a Zoom V.32bis 14.4 Fax modem in with the deal! 🙂
Alan Henry – Digital Plastic
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You're jumping ship? Oh pooh.
Paul (aka Mr. Zombie)
<<You're jumping ship? Oh pooh.>>
My kids are slowly taking over my machine! I've seen Treasure Math Storm more
on my screen than Imagine. Since there aren't enough Kids learning programs
for the Amiga and The EMPLANT's incompatability with Broderbunds Living Book
series, I've decided to "test" the water to see if I can buy a Pentium or DX4
system. It gags me, but hey at least I can play DOOM! 🙂
Wish me luck,
Alan Henry – Digital Plastic
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Well, Luck. I'm sad to see another lost Amigan, though, but I can see the time
when I might become one. What's wrong between the Emplant and the Living
Books?
At least get a PowerMac! Support the resistance, however establishment it is.
<g>
Paul (aka Mr. Zombie)
<<What's wrong between the Emplant and the Living Books?>>
The problem may not be universal, but with my Toshiba 3501 CD-ROM drive and
FWB's CD-ROM Toolkit driver (recommended by Toshiba), ALL of Broderbund's
Living Book series (i.e. Ruff's Bone, Little Monster Goes to School, Tortoise
and the Hare, etc.) hard crash with a bus error. According to Broderbund,
there is a incompatablity between the FWB's and their software. I wish I would
have at least bought the MAC/Windows CD's instead of the MAC only. Live and
learn!
I'd buy a PowerMac, but honestly, I really despise the MAC OS. There really
isn't any allowance for hacking around and usually when I try, I end up @#!*ing
everything up!
Alan Henry – Digital Plastic
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Alan-
So couldn't you just use a different driver?
I agree that the MacOS has a lot of shortcomings – when/if I get a Mac, even
after they've improved it substantially over the next few years, I'm sure that
as much as I'll like the support and many of the features and apps not found on
Amigas, I'll feel like I'm putting on a straight-jacket. But I hate Windoze.
OS/2 is nice, but there are no apps for it.
Paul (aka Mr. Zombie)
<<So couldn't you just use a different driver?>>
I've tried that too, but there aren't many Toshiba specific drivers around in
the PD. I've tried some NEC and other drivers, but was met with the same fate.
FWB gave me a few good ideas, but even they failed. It's frustrating when I'm
able to run every other program on the CD-ROM drive, and the Living Books stuff
bombs.
Until I sell this stuff, I've got plenty of time to research the best system.
I hadn't considered PowerMAC actually until your post. I have to admit,
though, the DX2's, DX4's and Pentiums seem to pack more bang for the buck in
the packages I've seen. The fate of PowerMAC's leaves me a little
uncomfortable too.
As far as putting on a straight-jacket, I totally agree. No more using AZAP to
change little do-dads in a program. Jumping between DirOpus and Imagine to
make room on a hard disk while in the middle of a render. No more hard drive
utilities that you honestly felt safe using because you've basically feel like
you grew up with the guy who created it (DiskSalve for instance). I'm sure you
can think of even more reasons. But the fact still stands that my current
system is user friendly to only me. My family can't believe the steps they
have to learn to run a simple kids game (on the EMPLANT) when they see other PC
owners' kids booting up their systems and immediately launching whatever they
want (these kids are only 3).
Alan Henry – Digital Plastic
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What's so hard about using the MacOS to play a game, unless it's
Emplant-induced? Not that it couldn't be easier, of course. I don't know. I'm
nervous about the future of the Mac, too, although if they get their OS out the
door soon enough and liscense it and also make it so that NT and other stuff
can run on their machines things might be OK. I just =hate= Windows so much.
And anywhere we go, you're right, there'll be no DiskSalv.
Paul (aka Mr. Zombie)
<<What's so hard about using the MacOS to play a game, unless it's
Emplant-induced? Not that it couldn't be easier, of course.>>
Playing games on a MAC is every bit as simple as on a PC (maybe easier because
you don't have to do all of the cryptic installation). On the EMPLANT, my kids
have to boot the Amiga, wait, double-click the EMPLANT icon, wait, load the CD,
wait, double click on the game icon, wait, get a MAC timebomb screen, hit
Restart, wait, reload CD, wait, …
<<I'm nervous about the future of the Mac, too, although if they get their OS
out the door soon enough and liscense it and also make it so that NT and other
stuff can run on their machines things might be OK.>>
I agree.
Alan Henry – Digital Plastic
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>On the EMPLANT, my kids have to boot the Amiga, wait, double-click the
>EMPLANT icon, wait, load the CD, wait, double click on the game icon, wait,
>get a MAC timebomb screen, hit Restart, wait, reload CD, wait, …
<G> Is it really that bad, or only with games?
Paul (aka Mr. Zombie)
<<Is it really that bad, or only with games?>>
For a 3 year old, yes! If she isn't getting instant results, she's gone. Using
an emulation within another operating system is generally the straw that
breaks' the proverbial little kids attention span. 🙂 Don't misunderstand me,
my wife can handle the whole procedure <bg> and set up a game for the kids with
ease (except for the Living Book stuff). I would like to see my kids do it
whenever they want, and that's just not an easy task for them with my current
setup.
Alan Henry – Digital Plastic
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Alan,
Have you considered a 486 bridgeboard, or wait a couple more weeks and get the
586e from UU for the Empolant?
Cheers, Marty
ProActive Images Inc.
"WE BECOME WHAT WE THINK ABOUT ALL DAY LONG" – RW EMERSON
<<Have you considered a 486 bridgeboard, or wait a couple more weeks and get
the 586e from UU for the Empolant?>>
Sure, I pre-ordered it (586e) several months ago. But what is it's speed and
other incompatiblities. Jim Drew said not to buy the 586 only for playing
games because it wouldn't do it well. Gee, how will other more graphic
intensive programs handle it. Will I ultimately end up with an emulation of a
DOS based wordprocessor and a Windows based OS that sucks worse than it already
does on it's own native platform? These things have yet to be determined. I'm
afraid of what the answer may be.
Alan Henry – Digital Plastic
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Alan,
<<Jim Drew said not to buy the 586 only for playing games because it wouldn't
do it well.>>
One of the reasons that the 586e has been delayed is because Jim and Co. are
rewriting the video drivers so that they can run graphic intensive games like
DOOM. I have seen posts on Genie that the manuals for the 586e are in the
printing process and that the entire package is very close to release. Jim has
stated that any program that will run on a 486 based PC will also run on the
586e. You might consider waiting a couple of weeks before bailing out.
Cheers, Marty
ProActive Images Inc.
"WE BECOME WHAT WE THINK ABOUT ALL DAY LONG" – RW EMERSON
Marty,
<<One of the reasons that the 586e has been delayed is because Jim and Co. are
rewriting the video drivers so that they can run graphic intensive games like
DOOM…any program that will run on a 486 based PC will also run on the 586e.>>
Yeah, but to what degree? Right now EMPLANT runs Wolfenstein, but I wouldn't
show it off to my friends!
<<You might consider waiting a couple of weeks before bailing out.>>
You may very well be right. In fact, if everyone can wait another couple of
weeks, I may very well wait for the 586e and see if it makes the grade. If it
does, I've inconvienced a lot of people. If it doesn't, I'll throw the 586e
emulation in with the whole package price. Of course, don't forget, the 586e
was due out in Oct, Nov, Dec and Jan (from the mouths of UU themselves – not
specifically Jim). Who's to say that we'll see the emulation before Spring?
We'll just have to see. 🙂
Alan Henry – Digital Plastic
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Who's UU?
C. Davey
Utilities Unlimited – Jim Drew's company, maker of the Emplant.
Paul (aka Mr. Zombie)
Ah, thanks for the info.
C. Davey
Alan,
>According to Broderbund, there is a incompatablity between the FWB's and
their software.
The living books crash on my Emplant run an Apple CD150 and Apple
divers. (But run fine on my wife's 630 upstairs.)
>There really isn't any allowance for hacking around
There is always RESEDIT. With it you weasel into any application and
change imbeded sounds, graphics, menues, requestors, icons, etc. – and
generally REALLY screw up the application! 😉
…Warp Engine Engaged…
-Paul-
How much would you consider selling the Emplant stuff seperately for?
Paul (aka Mr. Zombie)
Paul,
I have an Emplant package I would be willing to sell. It comes with a mac 800k
drive and Amia software. The board is the deluxe model (with serial ports and
SCSI. I would take $450 for the entire setup.
Frank
<<How much would you consider selling the Emplant stuff seperately for?>>
The EMPLANT deluxe board currently sells for $340.00. The ROMs are selling
around $100-150 here on CI$. System 7.5 is $95.00. The other misc software
retails around $60.00. Total retail $645.00. I'd like to get $450.00, when I
decide to split up the system. Currently I have at least two parties
interested in the entire package and quite a few interested in individual
parts.
Alan Henry – Digital Plastic
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=>Alan Henry – Digital Plastic
Can you take (digital) plastic?
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<<Can you take (digital) plastic?>>
Sorry, COD cash on the barrelhead only. But cash advances on your cards are
wonderful things.:-)
Alan Henry – Digital Plastic
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have you gotten any offers yet?
<<have you gotten any offers yet?>>
I've had quite a few people express an interest in either the whole package or
individual parts. Only a few have actually said they wanted to buy, however,
only for certain pieces of hardware. As I originally stated, I won't split the
package unless the sum of the parts sold equals $2700. Otherwise, I'll end up
with a stripped down system and not enough cash to make the transition. That's
bad…:)
What do you have in mind?
Alan Henry – Digital Plastic
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