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#Amiga Video Magazine

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#8794From: Mark MontelleseDec 10, 1990 9:48 PM
Thanks for trying Pete. We have run into the same proble many times. We need to show the ads or we can't continue to produce the show… As much as we would like to give it away, it costs MONEY to make… Once agin thanks for your interest, stay in touch..
#8862From: Pete GouldDec 11, 1990 11:01 AM
You're caught between a rock and a hard place. To run commercials, you have to purchase commercial time on just about any cable or broadcast system I can think of. Commercial time is very expensive. I have no idea how you could run the show for free and also run commercials on it. I'd be surprised to hear that it's been done anywhere. If you're running on an access channel, you can mention sponsors' names, but you can't run ads for them or even put their logo on the screen; they have to settle for a standard CG font of their name.
#9026From: Tom RobinsonDec 12, 1990 2:11 PM
-> I have no idea how you could run the show for free and also run ->commercials on it. That's standard procedure, Pete — it's called a barter agreement. They get the commercial airtime on your station in exchange for giving you the rights to air their show for free. Remember it's "you" that wants the show, and normally you'd have to pay to run it. The way they're handling it, no cash has to exchange hands. Remember, they're already putting all the bucks into producing the thing so it'll be an attractive package and it'll bring in viewership for your station. I realize community access cable doesn't have commercials, so that leaves your system out unless you guys work out a way to pay for the rights to the show. 🙂
#9038From: Pete GouldDec 12, 1990 5:14 PM
I don't work for the station — I'm a freelancer. But I know the folks who run the place quite well and know their mentality. If they were going to run a show like that, they would want to make money off it for themselves. That presupposes that they put their own ads on it. If the program arrives with ads already in place, and they have to leave them there to run the show, then there's nothing in it for them.
#9096From: MicroSearch/Greg WhiteDec 12, 1990 11:00 PM
Pete, Normally syndicated shows of this type have both! They have their own commercials and they leave blank space for you to insert your commercials. This is the way many, many shows are handled… i.e. Soul Train, most of the syndicated sports and fishing shows, many of those shows you see late at nite and on Sun. afternoon. Greg Greg White / MicroSearch 72230,1617 We listen to our customers..carefully
#9181From: Pete GouldDec 13, 1990 10:40 AM
That's true — they have BOTH. Maybe I missed something — I had the impression that AVM had its own commercials exclusively — I heard no mention of slots for local advertising. Pete
#9137From: Don Curtis/SYSOPDec 13, 1990 12:46 AM
Tom, ???? If the barter is "I make the show, you show it and I get the ad revenues" then the station would be out of business real quick. Your show could attract 100million viewers…but the station doesn't get a penny of the revenue, and has to pay the electric bill, people bill, rent, etc. I used to work with a radio station. Airtime was never traded for a show, airtime was traded for products such as cars, radios, cross advertising, etc…but never for just the show. Don
#9394From: Tom RobinsonDec 14, 1990 9:14 AM
Actually, Greg and Pete have more complete answers — the barter agreement should include local avails and syndicated spots. There are always variations on that theme as well, depending on who benefits most from the airing of the show. 😉 =Tom=