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#Hard Disk Full Client

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#154005From: James M. MurphyFeb 18, 1995 1:57 AM
Hi all! Well It's a first for me, I've got a client that called me over to his place because 3D Studio was giving him a "Write Error" and he was hoping he wouldn't have to bomb out because he hadn't saved the project file. You guessed it…a Hard Drive Full. Well we had to bomb out and it seems we've got more to worry about that renaming the Project.bak file… even though we cleaned 700MB out of his 1GIG Drive he is now getting Bad Clusters poping up. Imeadiatly after we ran scandisk (dos 6.22) 2 bad clusters showed up. We backed up a couple of projects files and ran scandisk again and another bad cluster poped up. It appears as if this hard drive is going south. Does anyone know if a Hard Disk Full Can cause this and if so can we fix it and how. I was thinking we could try to tape back up his program files and reformate then reload. Or is this 1gig drive totally trashed? Thanks in advance for any hardware wizards that care to answer this. Murph'
#154085From: Gary L. AngleFeb 18, 1995 12:02 PM
Murph I don't have the experience to answer you but I wanted to ask if, when your client got the write error msg, he didn't just exit to dos, call up his file mgr and delete SOMETHING…ANYTHING!! Then exit back to 3ds and save his prj file!! I learned this the HARD way, losing some 16 hrs worth of modeling!! (I would send the Evil Eye to the wall plug that my UPS plugs ino for weeks afterwards cause where do erased files go??) I know this is simple minded stuff to most other 3ds users but I feel more in control of my destiny now that I know of this work around. If this isn't the same situation I'd like to hear the outcome for my own protection!! Thanks, Gary (been there, done that) Angle
#154310From: James M. MurphyFeb 19, 1995 10:57 PM
Thanks for responding Gary, No he didn't exit to dos but when I got there I did and I was able to run Tree86 which told me the hard disk was full. I then erased about 100MB of his Targa files and we thought that was the end of it. However we're now getting the Cluster failiers and as Gary says I don't think we'll be able to trust this drive. Murph.
#154086From: John SchmidtFeb 18, 1995 12:07 PM
James, >> Imeadiatly after we ran scandisk (dos 6.22) 2 bad clusters showed up. We backed up a couple of projects files and ran scandisk again and another bad cluster poped up. It appears as if this hard drive is going south. Does anyone know if a Hard Disk Full Can cause this and if so can we fix it and how. << I've run into this before, and it appears Scandisk *might* actually be at error. I can't remember exactly how we came to this conclusion, but it was obvious that something was wrong when consecutive runs of Scandisk kept giving more and more reports of bad clusters. As I recall, we finally ran Scandisk *without* a surface scan, just to make sure there were no FAT problems or bad clusters, then went directly to Defrag, and, voila, Scandisk's surface scan found no errors. The best thing would be to back up the hard drive, re-format, and re-load the software. I personally am convinced there is a subtle bug in Scandisk's surface scan, but I'm not sure what triggers it. BTW, speaking of backups, I just purchased a new Colorado Jumbo 1400 1.4 gig internal tape backup. They aren't even advertised yet, but the list is only $429, and includes a blank tape, (680 megs uncompressed), and a 16 bit ISA controller for backup speeds of 17 megs/minute. It will also read and restore tapes made with the all the lower capacity Jumbo and Trakker units, (though it will only write backups to the higher capacity tapes). I'm installing it later today; hope it all goes well. 'Just about the most inexpensive archival storage I've seen. John
#154311From: James M. MurphyFeb 19, 1995 10:57 PM
Thanks for the reply. Nope, Defrag and Scandisk have now been run numerous times and we're loosing about a Cluster/Block a Day. Thanks for your efforts. Murph'
#154111From: Feb 18, 1995 1:47 PM
James: >> Well It's a first for me, I've got a client… Congratulations! I knew if you stuck with this business long enough someone would come along! <Really Huge Grin!!> >> he is now getting Bad Clusters poping up. Seriously, I thing the disk is on the way down. Back up everything on it and send it back to the manufacturer. The other option is to try a full low level format, then high level, and pray, but I wouldn't ever trust the drive again. Greg Pyros
#154312From: James M. MurphyFeb 19, 1995 10:57 PM
Thanks Greg! I kind of figured that the drive was history. Oh…Well, Since it's a Micron we'll just have to have him call them and get the drive replaced. I sure hope they've got on-site because this is a mission critical machine. Murph'
#154330From: Mark YankeeFeb 20, 1995 12:11 AM
James, << I sure hope Micron has on-site because this is a mission critical machine. >> Micron does for the 1st year of the machine. The on-site service is provided through General Electric. Mark
#154423From: CSA/CAFeb 20, 1995 2:23 PM
James, It is possible that with a low-level format, FDISK & FORMAT the drive will be OK. I've only lost 3 drives in 10 years (2 were Seagate ST-251s with the "stiction" problem, 1 Micropolis). Kevin Krell – Computer Support Associates