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#7539-
Font Catalog
Message #7633
Kenneth, Call 800-344-8335 for a copy of Font & Function (Adobe's type catalog). Lori Haines, Sysop
#7503-
upgrades
Message #7630
Bill, An upgrade for the Macintosh fonts? I am not aware of anything, what exactly had you heard was going to been done? Lori Haines, Sysop
scn fonts for mac
Message #7621
Scot, Sorry, I don't know the difference between StuffIt 1.5 and 1.5.1. You may or may not have noticed that I jumped right from version 1.2 to 1.5.1. "Bug fix" rings a bell though, and from what I understand 1.5 had not been around long when 1.5.1 took its place.…
Please note that in my companion message there should have been a line-break before the word "Thanks"
No $%^##"!? Thanks to you, we've pretty much got our MAC to IBM port done. But so far have no way to create screen fonts. Do you know of anyone who has successfully created GEM or WINDOWS screen fonts either from a Fontographer-created PS font or from a MAC screen…
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#7506-
Font Downloader
Message #7584
Colin: Thanks for the tip on LaserStatus. If you really want to write a Fontographer review, please send details and plans Eplex to me. We'd be more than happy to work something out. The only PostScript fonts available for the Mac that aren't made with Fontographer are the ones from…
So Compugraphic PS fonts are not encoded, and are stored in Fontographer's compressed format?
The Apple vs Adobe screen font question comes from printing at sites other than your own. If you have composed your document using Apple LW font, and print to a device that uses Adobe LW screen font, you will obtain disasterous results. The main difference is kerning information is contained…
Of course! what other program would they use? Earl Allen, Altsys Technical Support (Publisher's Type Foundry??????????)
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##6986-Version 2 Fonts
Message #7411
Did you say that Compugraphic creates their PostScript fonts using Fontographer!?
As far as I know, the final output quality would not be affected. What would be (possibly) is the spacing going from screen to printed page and the look of the fonts on your screen. Either way, what prints out is going to be the PostScript font built into your…
#Screen Fonts
Message #7310
I gather from your previous reply that the difference between Apple's LaserWriter screen fonts and Adobe's is that you include the italic, bold, and bold-italic typestyles, while Apple does not. Does this affect my final output? That is, do programs, such as Word or PageMaker, depend on the screen fonts…
#7240-
#NFNTs revisited
Message #7244
Hi Jon, welcome to the Mac universe. Just starting out or not, I would recommend Suitcase II. The documentation is very good, and educational. It's not a tech manual but it will enlighten you to macintosh fonts. Suitcase II is also the best font access utility. Font Harmony is a…
Thanks. Here on the Amiga, there are dozens of disks of color fonts available commercially and in the public domain, some of them quite large (120 pixels tall or so) and well-colored. It remains to be seen whether the differences in aspect ratio will prevent their porting to the Mac…
#6890-
More Adobe NFNTs
Message #6904
The ResEdit manual I got is about 50 pages long…I wouldn't call it extensive, but it does cover basic operation. Of course, it assumes you know what you're supposed to be doing in the first place (knowing what each of the resources are, for example). -Scott Leyes
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type library stack
Message #6901
Is the Adobe Type Library HyperCard stack available on this forum? Thanks, Dave
#6834-
More Adobe NFNTs
Message #6894
Leave it to a DECie to make them "virtually" purgeable!!
Could you give me a pointer to a place where Mac II color fonts are described? I'd like to see their format for them, too. I must have been looking at an old Inside Mac, it makes sense that the 128K ROMs addressed the question of limited font size.
Inside Macintosh Vol.5 mentions that the largest practical size for a screen font in the 128K ROMS (Mac Plus) is 127 pt.; and that the Mac II ROM limits the largest practical size to "about 255 points". I don't know where the Mac SE fits in (256K ROM, but not…
See my recent message to Steve Werner to learn a little about the way I'm attacking all this font stuff… I was amazed, reading Inside Mac, to learn that no compression is used to store fonts on disk, and that fonts were indeed limited to only 32K of memory space,…
Ah, I see… LaserTalk might not read the bitmap, it might make replacements for the stroke and fill commands, and when each is invoked for a letter, it sends something back to the Mac, and the Mac builds the bitmap. Maybe. I'm getting into PostScript and Macs from a purely…
[continued] and all the ResIDs are reassigned RANDOMLY! I really, really hate that. In order to seperate my harmonized library into family files again, I have to make multiple copies of the same file and "remove" everything except the desired family from each (138 times!!!). @#$!%&*$#!!! You wouldn't know of…
Where did you get your ResEdit manual? I've looked high and low, the last time I checked the APPDEV forum the one there was a few versions obsolete. Someday I will have to join APPDA even though I'm not a developer. With my version of ResEdit (1.2b2) when I open…
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I DO have a ResEdit manual… I don't know about #2 of your Msg, but #1 is essentially accurate. Here's why: Holding own the "option" key is the same as choosing "Open general" from the file menu (that is, when you hold down the optionKey & doubleclick on a resource…
I don't have a manual for ResEdit (who does?) but there seems to be two advantages to holding down the option key when opening FONT/NFNT resource lists. 1) When opening the FONT resources the display changes to show the installed size resources in descending order down to and INCLUDING the…
Typefaces
Message #6869
Concerns regarding typeface construction: I have been asked to relate some typeface questions to you, they are: Will there be any REAL small caps typefaces available in the future? As it stands, some faces have a strong, bold looking initial cap, followed by the "small caps". Typographically distracting. Specific type…
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#More Adobe NFNTs
Message #6859
Jim, Thanks again for the help. You've been a wealth of information. I quickly jumped out of Navigator to try out what you suggested with ResEdit. What's the significance of opening the FONT/NFNT resource with the Option key down? When do you hold down the Option key? It seemed to…
From my study, I believe that the "unique and tricky" part involves the use of the FRAMEDEVICE operator built into PostScript. One of the arguments to this operator is a proc which gets called by SHOWPAGE to transfer the document from VM to the Laser Imaging machinery. What I want…
#6811-
#11-pt screen fonts
Message #6821
Yup, I understood what you explained. The "unique and tricky" part is what I'd love to know… If anybody's got a clue how they read the bitmap back, I'd be grateful. It's obviously what's in LaserTalk, too. I don't agree that it's a battle about Display PostScript. What I meant…
I was under the impression that the LaserWriter was a "write-only" device, that is, that you couldn't read back proprietary information such as font character outlines. Do you know how FontSizer gets around this? If this was easy to do, you'd think it would be built-in to any computer that…
#6784-
11-pt screen fonts
Message #6788
FontSizer does require a PostScript LaserWriter (which actually does the work of figuring the pixels in the font from a PS outline description). You can use any PostScript font, built-in or downloadable.
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#Adobe NFNTs?
Message #6572
I've been following this endless discussion about FOND, FONT and NFNT, and the problems of reorganizing screen-rep fonts with ResEdit, etc. I'm not sure I understand the problem completely, so could I collar one of y'all for a quick summary of the general problem? As a multi-computer person interested in…
Steve, here is an abbrieviated cut and paste from a postscript file created by the Illustrator '88 print dialog Command-F option. Even though I know no postscript code, the fact the %%DocmentFonts is declared as CLB Helvetica seems odd when the parent of this family is CL Helvetica. The only…
Jim, I've been following this most interesting thread about regrouping your fonts with NFNT's. Your printing problems are most curious. You didn't say in what program you created your Command-F file (Xpress?). But I couldn't figure out how you got the printer font names you listed there. The PostScript printer…
I have created the postscript files as you suggested and examined them. All of the font names are identical in both files. I did notice a difference in syntax with regards to the style variations which didn't print. Declaration of the plain face: /FULLNAME(Helvetica Condensed Light) READONLY DEF for the…
#6493-
#Adobe NFNTs?
Message #6513
The printer driver is responsible for locating the downloadable font file; but it does so based on the the font number specified by the application. If the application uses the wrong font/FOND to "draw" the printed output, then the wrong PostScript font will be downloaded. If it looks right on…
#6478-
Adobe NFNTs?
Message #6506
MacroMaker will let you assign a macro globally or to an individual application. the Macros are accessable thru assignable key strokes or a pull-down menu. Macros can consist of mouseclicks, text entry via keyboard, can call other macros, and (i think) can "wait" for periods of time for events to…
#6493-
#Adobe NFNTs?
Message #6504
WHEN YOU SAY READS…. Have you tried creating a postScript file to disk for your problem fonts? That is, taking a sample document in the affected font and holding down the Command-F key combo immediately after clicking OK in the Print Dialog. This will give you the application's PostScript code…
I've been following the threads on NFNTs and Compugraphic fonts the past couple weeks with great interest. This is probably the biggest burst of activity I've seen on this forum since it started. Our service bureau, Central Graphics in San Diego, is also following the discussion about whether to offer…
LaserTalk dumps the bit-map of the page in printer memory (or at least the portion which you have showing on the screen). On the Mac version, you can open a window as large as you can fit on your screen. If you make the window too large, however, there is…
#6361-
#Smaller point sizes
Message #6371
If I interpret your query correctly, you are asking about Adobe's proprietary font technology. The way it works is this: there is code written into (I assume) all Adobe fonts that allows those fonts to print more legibly on certain printers. These "hints" tell the printer how to "round off"…
Did you mean to say that (Mac) LaserTalk accesses MacDraw to get the image of the bitmap? Perhaps you meant QuickDraw. Either way, if it works under Windows on the PC, it must be interacting with the laser printer.
#6311-
Adobe NFNTs?
Message #6325
As you saw from Howard's message, he doesn't release families (at least not yet–he recently received our Family Builder, which BTW, can solve your problem too). Sorry for the misinformation. I misunderstood (and misremembered) something he told me over the phone. The eye is mightier than the ear. Earl Allen,…
#6312-
Adobe NFNTs?
Message #6315
Despite what Compugraphic claims, The faces that iI've seen so far from them look identical to those created with Fontogrpapher, not the big proprietary system Adobe uses (I was led to believe they were using more "advanced" software…but I'm not knocking Fontographer either). The problem that ANY company (other than…
The PC version of LaserTalk does run under Windows.
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