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#24487 Kermit Source Message #24542
From: Mike Floyd/DDJ DDJ Forum · General/DDJ office March 22, 1990 12:10 PM
Mike, "Kermit Meets Modula-2" by Brian Anderson appeared in the May '89 issue. Brian is working on another Kermit meets OS/2 article for us. Check back with me in a couple of weeks. — MF
#24508 curses Message #24541
From: Martin O. Waldron DDJ Forum · Forum Business March 22, 1990 10:22 AM
TopSpeed C has an option to warn you about "Assignment in Test Expression" which has saved me a number of times, since I program mainly in Modula-2. -martin JPI
#24522 #curses Message #24540
From: Martin O. Waldron DDJ Forum · Forum Business March 22, 1990 10:15 AM
Hi Joe, I'm not real big on assembler. Is there some way of specifying a type in assembler? I knwo that .OBJ's can hold info in TYPDEF records, but can you specify that in ASM? We're talking about what gets passed to and from functions…. -Martin
From: Jeff McPhate DDJ Forum · General/DDJ office March 22, 1990 8:58 AM
Could you please point me toward the proper DL for listings, etc. from Personal Workstation Magazine? Thank you, Jeff
From: Bob Goldrich DDJ Forum · Forum Business March 22, 1990 8:56 AM
What is this 'ARM'? Is it AT&T's C++ v2.0 spec? If so, I think its time I got my hands on it. Perhaps Walter should add the second error/warning message that Phil listed from cfront. That got me thinking, why, when a language is standardized, don't they try to standardize…
From: Bob Goldrich DDJ Forum · Forum Business March 22, 1990 8:51 AM
Thanks, Phil.
From: Jim Mischel DDJ Forum · General/DDJ office March 22, 1990 8:38 AM
Joe Add to all that their upgrade policy which states (tho I've not seen it in writing): "This is a faster and better product than the one that it's replacing. Therefore you should not expect it to correctly compile (if at all) code that was written for the prior version"…
#24508 curses Message #24535
From: Jim Mischel DDJ Forum · Forum Business March 22, 1990 8:38 AM
Turbo C handles the if (a=b) case with a warning: "Possibly incorrect assignment" JIM
From: Jason R. Hansen DDJ Forum · General/DDJ office March 21, 1990 9:03 PM
Dan, In the September 1988 issue of DDJ (#143) Ken Porter benchmarked some Modula-2 compilers with dhrystone, sieve, fib, acker, fpmath, qsort, shsort, cortn, ncortn benchmarks. The function of the benchmarks is mention in Table 3 on page 69. On page 72, Ken mentions donating the code for the benchmarks…
#24488 DOS Utilities Message #24533
From: Jim Mischel DDJ Forum · General/DDJ office March 21, 1990 8:38 PM
Louis There's a DECUS (DEC user's group or something like that) LEX floating around here somewhere — public domain (I think). I don't recall there being any restrictions on using it for chargeable jobs. There used to be a YACC around too (on CLMFOR, I think — might have been…
Code Base 4 Message #24532
From: Slim Heilpern DDJ Forum · Forum Business March 21, 1990 8:27 PM
Hi. Has anyone had any experience working with Code Base 4 (Sequiter Software) ? I am about to start a 30 day trial period with it and would like to be aware of any anomalies or oddities that I should look out for. -Thanks
From: Robert Funk DDJ Forum · Forum Business March 21, 1990 8:10 PM
Jim, Hello again. I have been continuing to look for FD.ARC ever since you told me about it, and can't find it. I even sent a query to the sysop you had asked a week or so ago to post it, but got no reply. I did not save the…
From: Phil Rose DDJ Forum · Forum Business March 21, 1990 6:32 PM
Right. See quote from ARM in John Dlugosz message to you regarding same.
From: Dale H. Cook DDJ Forum · General/DDJ office March 21, 1990 5:31 PM
John – Sounds like 4DOS has some fine features, but I've got to write code as generic as possible if I want it to be useful to a number of people. Thanks for the tips. – Dale
From: John M. Dlugosz DDJ Forum · General/DDJ office March 21, 1990 2:30 PM
You can use '|' on a 4DOS command line, if escaped by a ^X first. BTW, 4DOS has a new version out. It has SWITCHAR support, and is selectable with the SETDOS command instead of goofy interrupts. It also allows a forward slash as a dir seperator in most places.…
From: John M. Dlugosz DDJ Forum · Forum Business March 21, 1990 2:30 PM
Yea, you're right. I had been thinking about the line in the DRM that says, "If a function mentioned as a friend has not been declared its nam is entered in the same scope as the name of the class containing the friend declaration." which says nothing about only allowing…
From: Bob Goldrich DDJ Forum · Forum Business March 21, 1990 1:00 PM
So, if you had 2 classes, each with a friend function which is also a member of the other class, the only way to handle this is to make one class a friend of the other? In such a situation it seems that the forward references catch up with you,…
From: Phil Rose DDJ Forum · Forum Business March 21, 1990 11:38 AM
The way I understand it, there was a decision not to allow partial definitions of a class, which is what you are doing when you declare a member function of an as yet undefined class as a friend. I'm not a compiler writer, but possibly this creates error checking problems…
#24516 C++ types Message #24524
From: Al Stevens DDJ Forum · Forum Business March 21, 1990 11:36 AM
The point I'm making is that you have to teach what works if the student is going to write code that has to run. If what the manual says differs with how the compiler works, you have to teach the compiler. What choice do you have? The code has to…
From: Dale H. Cook DDJ Forum · General/DDJ office March 21, 1990 9:03 AM
Don – What I'm working on at the moment is a general-purpose program with syntax similar to Irv Hoff's FIND54.COM for CP/M. For instance, on my system the IBM summary files are named IBMAPP.DIR, IBMHW.DIR, and so on. On my old Kapro I could search all the IBM Forums for…
#24505 #curses Message #24522
From: Joe Sewell DDJ Forum · Forum Business March 21, 1990 8:20 AM
Martin, In general, that's the only way to do it (i.e. have the high-level language "assume" it knows what the types are). Some development systems may allow for explicit typechecking, but most do not, so the only way to do it is to tell the high-level language(s) what they are,…
From: Joe Sewell DDJ Forum · General/DDJ office March 21, 1990 8:18 AM
Eric, I've had a prejudice against MicroCrud ever since their Customer Retort department responded to a bug report with the equivalent of, "yeah, we know about it. So what?" Add to that the mess (sic) that MeSs-Windows software development is (the libraries are set up for larger memory models, yet…
From: Bob Goldrich DDJ Forum · Forum Business March 21, 1990 7:57 AM
John, See Phil's message and my reply. It doesn't seem to be a bug, just a 'gotcha' of C++. Thanks for the help. -Bob nst Vector& v1 ) ; says is "function 'trans' belonging to class 'Matrix' is granted access to 'Vector's private members". No knowledge of Matrix is required…
From: Bob Goldrich DDJ Forum · Forum Business March 21, 1990 7:56 AM
Phil, I found your answer in Lippman's book (p.179). I would have thought that my friend declaration was ok, because all the line friend void Matrix::trans( const Vector& v1 ) ; says is "function 'trans' belonging to class 'Matrix' is granted access to 'Vector's private members". No knowledge of Matrix…
From: ERIC KIRBY DDJ Forum · General/DDJ office March 21, 1990 5:50 AM
Thanks Joe, I will start with some books and also with DDJ. Whats wrong with 'Billy' Gates? I like the style of MS products. Eric
#24414 #C++ types Message #24516
From: Greg Comeau@Comeau Cmptg DDJ Forum · Forum Business March 20, 1990 9:32 PM
Not sure I'm with that totally. For instance, in the case of C, I always followed the current guiding light (K&R, then H&S, then the drafts, now the standard) with secondary attention given to the given implementation I'm working with. I agree the given implementation must be given valid concern,…
From: Don E. Groves, Jr. DDJ Forum · General/DDJ office March 20, 1990 9:17 PM
Has any one else out there tried or seen Emerald.Bay and Vulcan or the C interface library by Ratliff Software Production, Inc. Jr.
#24488 DOS Utilities Message #24514
From: Don E. Groves, Jr. DDJ Forum · General/DDJ office March 20, 1990 9:17 PM
Louis, – One Book I have found useful is: Advance DOs Memory-Resident Utilities, Interrupts, and Disk Management with MS & PC DOS 2nd edition – by Michael Hyman – Published by Management Infomation Service.
From: Don E. Groves, Jr. DDJ Forum · General/DDJ office March 20, 1990 9:17 PM
Dale – What about us AutoSig users ?? Guess where stuck with BRO *.* to a capture file then use the off line Bro.exe utility. Or if where lucky and some nice SysOp uploads a TapCis Directory listing in Compress format, we can download that UnCompress it then use Brief…
#Heap Expander Message #24512
From: Slim Heilpern DDJ Forum · Forum Business March 20, 1990 4:23 PM
Has anyone had any experience with "The Heap Expander" distributed by "The Tool Makers"? I'm curious to hear any comments about this product as I am considering buying it. It seems like it would be a wonderful product if it does what their ad claims. -Thanks.
From: John M. Dlugosz DDJ Forum · Forum Business March 20, 1990 1:20 PM
yup, that is a compiler bug. Looks like the 'friend' declaration only sticks if the function already exists, or the declaration of trans in Matrix somehow un-friends it. Wierd, but true. I'll forward this message to Walter. –John
#24497 DOS Utilities Message #24510
From: John M. Dlugosz DDJ Forum · General/DDJ office March 20, 1990 1:20 PM
really? I remember when it was rather cheap. I guess he upped the price. I remember hearing that there was almost no price resistance in that product catagory.
From: Phil Rose DDJ Forum · Forum Business March 20, 1990 12:54 PM
A forward reference to a class only allows you to declare a pointer or reference to that class. The size of that class, and info about its members is unknown at that time, thus your attempt to declare a member function of the forward referenced class as a friend of…
#24506 #curses Message #24508
From: David Waroff DDJ Forum · Forum Business March 20, 1990 11:50 AM
Some of them will catch things like using pointers to free'd memory, and constructs like "if(a=b)".
#24494 #curses Message #24506
From: Martin O. Waldron DDJ Forum · Forum Business March 20, 1990 10:25 AM
If a compiler supports the ANSI spec 100%, how much use would a lint be? _martin
#24481 #curses Message #24505
From: Martin O. Waldron DDJ Forum · Forum Business March 20, 1990 10:24 AM
Joe , So if you want type checking from a high-level langauage to an assembler file, you should definitely include a .h – type file? Any other ways you can think of? -Martin
From: Bob Goldrich DDJ Forum · Forum Business March 20, 1990 7:26 AM
/*———————————————————————— Some C++ questions: The attached code gives me the following error under Zortech C++ v2.06. m11 = v1.x ; ^ "test.cpp", line 26 Syntax error: member 'x' of class 'Vector' is private I have tried to get support from Zortech to no avail. Am I doing something wrong in…
From: Craig James DDJ Forum · General/DDJ office March 19, 1990 10:59 PM
I have recently purchased a GCC PLP II printer and love it. But there is one thing that I don't understand. My system consists of a Mac IIci w/ 5 mb of ram. I constantly keep getting messages while I try to print that I am out of memory. So…
#24487 Kermit Source Message #24500
From: Richard B. Gilbert[VAX] DDJ Forum · General/DDJ office March 19, 1990 10:52 PM
Mike, Then the first place I'd look is IBMCOMM. If they don't have it and don't know where to get it (unlikely, but anything's possible), let me know and I should be able to FTP it from Columbia University.
#24490 DOS Utilities Message #24499
From: Tom Germond DDJ Forum · General/DDJ office March 19, 1990 9:54 PM
I've read that LALR is excellent. I can also recommend Mortise-Kern Systems products (MKS.) I don't own their LEX and YACC, but their other software is good, and the reviews of their LEX and YACC rank them on a par with LALR's. I read the review comparing LEXs and YACCs…
From: Joe Sewell DDJ Forum · Talk to the Trade March 19, 1990 7:42 PM
I work for a company that develops software (specifically an expert system shell with add-ons) for various platforms, including VAX/VMS, MeSs-DOS (and soon OS/2), the Macintosh, IBM Mainframe (MVS, VM, CMS, CICS, etc.), and UNIX (currently a Sun Sparcstation). We've got a set of code that should be portable across…
#DOS Utilities Message #24497
From: Louis Cobet DDJ Forum · General/DDJ office March 19, 1990 7:22 PM
John, Thanks for the help. Unfortunately, the list price of LALR 4.0 is almost twice as high as the other YACC-LEX's. But. it may be worth it. Louis
From: William Volk DDJ Forum · Telecommunications March 19, 1990 2:36 PM
Our applications creates 640K Bytes of ROM code. We are still fustrated by the long build times and macro problems as previously noted. Purchasing 25MHz 386's should help.
#24451 #curses Message #24494
From: David Waroff DDJ Forum · Forum Business March 19, 1990 2:34 PM
A good lint will check many things in C across files. Some are available that support ANSI headers & types.
Compaq tape help!!! Message #24493
From: Jack Zigon DDJ Forum · Forum Business March 19, 1990 12:31 PM
I have several 10Mb tapes with ASCII files that I desparately need to read. The tapes were written on the 10Mb tape drives that used to come with Compaq computers. Can anyone help me out with programming information, source code, people to call, or technical references that will enable me…
#24412 Motorola RISC & DOS Message #24492
From: Tom Germond DDJ Forum · Off the Cuff March 19, 1990 5:06 AM
Jim, A couple of thoughts. Consider the DOS compatibility box under OS/2. A whole bunch of DOS applications don't work at all, or at least not very well in that environment. If Microsoft, who ought to know what they're doing, can't even support DOS under OS/2, who could do it…
#24488 #DOS Utilities Message #24490
From: John M. Dlugosz DDJ Forum · General/DDJ office March 18, 1990 10:46 PM
for TSR stuff, get TesSeRact from CLMFOR. Saw a review on YACC stuff for PC's a while back, but things have changed since. As I recall, QParser is not longer available and the other one (I forget the brand) is about the same. LALR though is updated and hotter than…
From: Don E. Groves, Jr. DDJ Forum · Forum Business March 18, 1990 9:36 PM
Jim – Thanks – I'll have to look for on my next trip to the BookStore.
#DOS Utilities Message #24488
From: Louis Cobet DDJ Forum · General/DDJ office March 18, 1990 8:24 PM
I have two questions. Does anybody have any suggestions as to good books or articles on MSDOS TSR's. Second, are there any opinions on the various MSDOS LEX's and YACC's available commercially? I work with FLEX and BISON, which I like but cannot use in chargeable jobs. Louis
#24483 #Kermit Source Message #24487
From: Mike Kiser DDJ Forum · General/DDJ office March 18, 1990 2:36 PM
Thanks! I need Kermit source code for an application I am developing under OS/2 1.2 Communications Manager……If I can get hold of a DOS Kermit source code I can convert over from there. I am using a PS/2 Model 70 so I need Kermit for PC. YOur assistance is greatly…

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