#DiskFont version 36/37
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Hello, I'm new to this forum and I have a question that's probably been
addressed in great depth. I've upgraded my Amiga 500 to AmigaDos 2.0, and
followed the installation instructions carefully. One instruction told me to
delete font library version 36 and replace it with version 37, found on the
AmigaFonts disk. This I did. It did not seem to make any difference until I
tried to load the "Fountain" program, when I received a requestor that grimly
told me it could not find "font library verison 37". I am not an idiot; I'm
certain I did everything correctly. Did I in fact commit a collosal boo-boo,
or did Commodore ship the wrong version of font library? I understand that
version 37 has something to do with using Outline fonts (which sounds like a
really neat idea if I could ever get it to work). Is there any way I can fix
this problem without taking my computer to the local shyster computer doctor?
Did you reboot after copying version 37?
1.03j
Kickstart version 37.175. Workbench version 37.67
Many times. I have had this problem since January, when my computer came back
from the shop.
At a shell prompt type go into libs: and make sure diskfont.library is in
there spelled exactly like I have it here (lower case letters). Then type
version diskfont.library. I get 37.58. What do you get?
1.03j
Kickstart version 37.175. Workbench version 37.67
I've got version 36.66!!! Does this mean I have to pay $$$ to get an upgraded
version? Is it free? Can I get a copy of it somewhere from a kindly mentor? I
do, by the way, appreciate your help.
Hi,
I'm new to the Amiga, and am wondering if I made a mistake in buying it. I've
got an Amiga 2000 with 9 megs ram and 80 M HD. I'm useing 1.3, and when I type
version diskfont.library I get 34.37.
What should I consider upgrading? What ROM version should I get? Is it true
that I can get 16.8 million colors with a 2000? I've got an 1084 as a monitor.
CAn my amiga use 1.44meg drives? or at least do so when emulating a PC?
I heard that my amiga can beat a 386 IBM in graphics etc… but I can't seem to
prove it to anyone. And what about acceleration? What should I consider
there.. I have quite a few questions… and can bearly get around in my amiga.
Sorry for butting in like that… btw, how do I do a directory listing for
specific files, as in IBM Dos I'd do "DIR T*.*" to get all files that start
with T… but I have been unable to find a way to do it with my cli or shell.
I'm not as dumb as I sound, hehe… I hope.
Nick
I would suggest an upgrade to 2.1; you will notice a solid increase in
functionality without an overall performance hit. You can get gazillions of
colors with a 3rd party 24-bit graphics card, but this will support only
selected applications. The new generation (A1200/A4000) machines have built-in
24-bit graphics; there are rumors aflying of A2000 and A3000 AGA (the new
standard) boards, but nothing solid. I would personally hold off on buying a
3rd party board unless I had some specific application in mind that could not
wait a couple of months to test the waters.
Your 2000 may be able to use 1.44 meg drives; I'm not sure on this. If you
purchase a PC emulation hardware solution, most of them will support 1.44 meg
drives. 68030 and 68040-based accelerators are fairly inexpensive; you can get
an 040 for under $1000, and that will power you past any 486 on the market if
you get fast memory for it.
One important question to answer is "what am I doing with my Amiga? what do I
WANT to be doing?" Then you'll have a much better grasp of what you need to do
with your system, if anything.
The equivalent of DOS' '*' is '#?'. To use your example, to get a sample of
everything starting with T, you would type "dir T#?". The nice thing about #?
vs. * is that you can repeat the #? pattern; IE, if you know there's a file in
there somewhere that starts with a T, has a .FOX somewhere in the middle, and
ends in .FLY, you could do "dir t#?.fox#?.fly" and it would find it. Pretty
cool, huh? <g>
Best of luck with your system, feel free to ask in the forums for help, you
will find people to be quite supportive and helpful.
Thanks for the info Rob! Especially the dos command.. it will make getting
around on the hard drive a little easier.
I'm not sure what I'd like to do with my amiga. I'd like to be able to do
wordprocessing and print it out as nicely as I can using WP 5.1 for windows.
I'm sure this is possible, (it's the same printer). But so far.. I haven't been
able to get any good results. I'm using Final Copy v1.something, and a printer
driver I got off of here called epsonqplus. Any ideas?
Plus I'd like to do video some day.. but right now, I don't have a purpose for
it. hehe 🙂 I do have a small gen-lock that simply mixes video and the
computer screen together.
I do alot of telecommunications… and so far haven't found a program that will
emulate the ANSI codes properly. I guess that's cuz AMiga and IBM have
different characters for the same code… but is it possible. My friends laugh
at my amiga..and say it's tough to read anything with all them funny characters
around the text.
Also.. what about a video flicker free thing? ARe there many to choose from?
I'd like to get one of those, cuz the screen flickers an aweful lot in HiREs.
Thanks again for the info… I'm sure I'll have more questions later on.
Anybody else with any info can talk to me too 🙂 Nick
Well, Danny, welcome to Amiga-Land! I think probably the one thing that
will make you fall in love with your Amiga is the easy multi-tasking — every
time I get on a PC-clone or even a Mac, I get _very_ frustrated not being able
to hit Left-Amiga-N or Left-Amiga-M to get back to the Shell to do something
else. Anyway, as to Final Copy, experiment with your Printer settings in
Preferences, especially the Density settings. I find for the best output my
Star NX-1000 likes the highest setting, although it takes longer. As to
graphics — let me recommend a _bunch_ of stuff: if you like doing your own
art, Deluxe Paint (3 or 4) is hard to beat. To show off stuff to your friends,
there are a bazillion downloads all over the place. Get Mostra or SuperView to
look at the graphics files. Or, even better, ViewTek will even display GIF
files! HamLab Plus is a _great_ file format converter. GIFs, TIFFs, JPEG
files, etc., etc., etc. can be converted to Amiga IFF format, with 6 or 8
different kinds of dithering and so on and so forth. All these programs are
shareware, available on BBSs "everywhere," as they say on TV. Lots of luck!
Danny;
To use the 1.44 meg drives you will have to 1) buy the drive (about $100)
and 2) upgrade the OS (about $90).
I can not possibly encourage you enough on the OS upgrade. The features
and convenience added is nothing short of remarkable. The upgrade to
version 2.1 of the OS will also give you CrossDOS which will handle MSDOS
floppies and even hard drives.
Also, there are flicker fixer cards available for the Amiga 2000 now but
they do require a VGA (or multisync) monitor.
-bill
Danny,
RE: ANSI text…I have found that Term is able to handle ANSI as well as
any PC. JR-COMM does a pretty goo job as well.
There are probably three or four flicker fixers available. If you don't
mind giving up your video slot, watch the price of the CBM card…I have a
feeling that it will drop substantially, soon. Commodore is clearing out
the warehouse lately.
Jonathan, via AutoPilot // Entombed in ice
\\// and snow in Albany, NY
The best Flicker "Fixer" I've seen is the Flicker Free Video 2 by ICD.
Simply because it does not use up the video slot. Nuf said?
<Z>
Your best bet for cheap, quality word processing output on the Amiga
probably is Final Copy II. Upgrade your 1.3 version if you can; II is MUCH
better. About 70 bucks and great output even on a dot matrix. Transwrite
is a text editor (not graphical) that is cheap and will let you
import/export Wordperfect files to and from other platforms.
With one of the Amiga telecomm packages that support ANSI, you can tune
things to get a good representation of IBM color ANSI graphics. You need
to use an Amiga version of an IBM font, however, for full compatibility.
The better telecomm packages supply one or two such fonts, but free
versions are available on BBSes.
Nick,
The 2000 is an older machine, but you can still upgrade it a good deal.
First, the bad news – when the 2000 came out it blew the doors off IBM
graphics. these days, 256+ color VGA displays have better color resolution than
the 2000, although the generally can't display graphics as fast as the Amiga
can. (Which means your 2000 is still far better at animation.)
The good news is – you can upgrade your 2000's processer and get 486 class
performance for as little as a few hundred dollars; you can get a new rom
"2.05" is the latest, I think, and a new version of the OS (2.1). The rom and
OS will cost you $90 – and the improvement to the OS is nothing short of
incredible.
Finally, depending on how much you want to spend, you can drop between 300 and
2000 dollars on getting a third party graphics board which will offer you
greatly improved video; or you can do like most of us and wait for Commodore to
release an add-on board for the 2000 that will give you the same kind of
graphics the new amigas have.
Your 2000 is a solid machine – I used mine for years until a lightening strike
sent it to the computer bone yard. It will run all Amiga software except stuff
written for the brand new models (the 4000 and the 1200), and it'll be far more
enjoyable to use.
Oh, and about the 1.44 drives – your 2000 probably doesn't have a 1.44 meg disk
drive, but you can buy them and install them for about $100 each.
PS –
to do "wild cards" on the amiga, the "*" doesn't work (because they
used that character to mean something else). Instead, type "dir T#?" the "#?"
does the same thing as the "*" on a PC.
Danny (Nick?):
The equivelent command under AmigaDOS would be DIR T#? In AmigaDOS the .
is a character like any other, and filenames can be upto 32 characters
long. #? is equivelent to * under MS-DOS, and as "." is a normal character
there's no need to have it in the filename, so T#? is asking for all files
that start with T just like DIR T*.* does under MS-DOS.
// -Mike Schiller
\X/ AMIGA! On AutoPilot in sunny Fort Lauderdale
"What ROM version should I get?"
Well, I hear 2.1 is out now. 1.3 is dead.
"Can my amiga use 1.44meg drives? or at least do so when emulating a PC?"
Yes. Get Crossdos. I think it comes with 2.1 actually.
"I heard that my amiga can beat a 386 IBM in graphics etc… but I can't
seem to prove it to anyone."
Why do you want to prove it to anyone? Do you want the Amiga to meet
your needs or someone elses?
"And what about acceleration? What should I consider there?"
How about a board from Progressive Peripherals. I hear they are very
nice and somewhat cheap these days.
"How do I do a directory listing for specific files. I have been unable
to find a way to do it with my cli or shell."
Dir T#? will do the same as C:>DIR T*.*
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Danny,
First, it's policy to join the forum with your complete name.
I also wondered if I made a mistake after buying my first Amiga. That
didn't last long and I was soon wondering why I hadn't gotten one earlier.
The 2000 is an older machine but still a workhorse. Provided you didn't
pay too much, it should be good for discovering the Amiga, plus if you
want something like a toaster, the 2000 is currently the machine to go
with.
Definitely get System 2.1 and roms. Also get a directory utility like
DirOpus or SID. VLTjr is a good terminal program you can download from
here and for logging on to CIS, I would recommend AutoPilot (functional
demo available here)
No, you can't get 16.8 million colors with a 2000. You can get 4096
colors in ham mode. Interlace allows for more resolution but it will
flicker considerably on your 1084. You might consider getting a flicker
fixer and a vga or multyisynch monitor. You might also consider a 24 bit
card such as OpalVision. For acceleration, a Zeus 040 from Progresive
Peripherals is priced right now. I would suggest that you gain some
familiarity with the system and get a better idea of what you want from it
before you go upgrading too much. It can be far more expensive in the long
run than just buying a new machine.
There's alot to learn, so don't get overwhelmed if everything doesn't
immediately fall into place. Amiga Dos doesn't support the * wildcard. Try
T#? instead. Also, the command name followed by ? will usually produce a
template of use.
-Richard
Your A2000 must be used; otherwise, if you bought it recently new, it
should have come with Workbench 2.1. If not, upgrading the OS will greatly
improve your Amiga and will only cost 80-90 bucks.
As a confirmed PC and Amiga user, I have to say that the substitution in
AmigaDOS of "#?" for the asterisk wildcard is neat but confusing. There
are utilities out there you can run that will restore the asterisk to its
rightful mission, if you insist. AmigaDOS other big confusing difference
from MS-DOS command line lingo is that subdirectory slashes are backwards;
that one confused me for a l-o-n-g time!
Barring a 24-bit card, such as Opalvision or the like (or the hoped for
AGA card upgrade, which may never happen), the single best investment you
can make in your A2000 is in a flicker fixer to take care of the interlace
flicker. Commodore's A2320 fixer really turns out nice video, is easy to
install in the video slot and can be had mail order for under 150 bucks.
Flicker is essential for video applications (you need interlace mode for
output to NTSC composite video) but it's annoying for desktop publishing
or other stuff. Flicker fixer cards typically require a multisync or VGA
monitor, usually. If you have a Commodore 1084s or something similar, they
probably won't work. The alternative is to wear polaroid shades or get a
smoked screen or tune your colors to minimize flicker.
A lot of folks, me included, own a DCTV graphics board, which lets you
paint and digitize video in about 4 million colors on a composite monitor.
It's rock cheap, too: around 300 bucks. Comes with a great paint program,
DCTV Paint. However, it won't let you run games or applications or the
Workbench in that mode, just imagery. Super for handling animations in
real time.
Stick with it; I did, and found the Amiga to be a great computer.
Ron;
The "*" is handy as a replacement for "#?" but the "#" and "?" are much
more powerful. The "#" in combination with range matching and the "~"
(for do not match) make the Amiga's search capability the best of any home
computer.
>…is that subdirectory slashes are backwards…
No, MSDOS subdirectory slashes are backwards. Unix and other OSes have
been using the forward slash since long before MSDOS and the PC were even
a dream (nightmare).
Don't take my negative comments too seriously, you posted a very nice
reply to Danny and it should be helpful.
-bill