#7th guest
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Chris,
I just saw 7th Guest in the local Elec. Boutique for $79.95. From what
everyone's been saying about it, I'd like to get it but am reluctant at that
price.
Couple of questions. I noticed that the box contained a warning about some of
the material maybe being offensive to some people. I play a lot of PC
adventure games with my 10 year old daughter. Would this game be appropriate ?
Just how offensive is it ? Anything worse than your typical PG-13 movie ?
(Second question) I read in a games magazine that, though the graphics and
sound are sensational, the game is more or less made up of set unchangable
animation sequences which involve no player interaction, plus many puzzles. I'm
used to playing adventure games from Sierra and Lucasfilm, which permit the
player to have a great deal of interaction with game objects and characters. I
guess the question is, how does the game feel ? Like you're watching a movie
from VCR tape, or like you are one of the characters yourself ?
… Keith
Keith
1st of all, check out GAMERS section 12, HOT topic of the month is 7th Guest.
2nd, I bought it at Price Club (chain of wharehouse stores) for $42!!!
3rd, this game is the most BORING, TEDIOUS, UNINTERESTING game ever written for
the PC. It will take you HOURS and HOURS of rebooting to get the right
configuration to even PLAY it. I was brought to tears (NOT "on the verge of
tears", but real-live TEARS) trying to get my system to work. I use a 486/33
with soundblaster, and Mitsumi drive with 150 kb/sec transfer, and a Cirrus
Logic VESA LB video card (rated at about a bizzillion winmarks, I think), and
QEMM 6.0 It you have a similar configuration, FORGET IT! You need a 486/66
minimum (that's funny, because that is currently the FASTEST possible PC
computer in the world), and don't even think about it unless you have a
300kb/sec double speed CD. In short, you need $4000 worth of hardware to play
this stupid, dull, boring game. My advice: take $1000, buy a Sega Genesis,
Sega CD, Super Nintendo (SNES), and get Sewer Shark CD, Ecco the Dolphin (sega
cart.), Flashback (sega genesis cartridge), and Starfox for the SNES. You'll
have SO MUCH more fun from that lineup, you'll save thousands, your kids will
be much happier, etc. etc.
p.s. There are no offensive scenes. The only scary part is, the CURSER is a
skeleton hand, that turns into a skull with a throbbing brain when it is time
to solve a boring irrelevent puzzle. My brain was doing the same thing after
two hours of this game.
p.p.s. I'll sell you my copy for $50, and I'll pay shipping. Complete with
untouched registration card, and unwatched video, "The making of 7th guest" (I
was already warned a dozen times not to watch it, it is a home movie without
sound).
Eric
Eric,
I love it! You hated 7th Guest so much that you're going to sell it for a
profit!
Keith, here's a different point of view. I think The 7th Guest is one of the
most amazing pieces of software to be put on the market in a long time and is
THE piece of software to buy if you have a CD-ROM drive. It worked for me
right out of the box (clearly many people are having technical problems but
that's to be expected whenever you're dealing with something that's this
cutting edge).
Just be sure your expectations are correct. This is NOT a traditional
adventure game. Rather it's Castle of Dr. Brain for the CD-ROM. You move from
room to room solving the puzzles left by the evil toymaker Stauf. But that's
only half the fun. The other half is marveling at the sights and sounds that
emanate from your computer as you play.
As far as I'm concerned, this program is must buy.
Larry
Larry:
I am not going to argue with your perspective – I haven't played the game. But
I'd like to share a small story.
Last year I was at a small conference where Bill Gates demo'd 7th
Guest and went on and on about the fine music and the motion graphics
(the scene he showed was in the main entry of the castle with the
chekerboard floor and the pictures on the wall). Gates was really
quite ecstatic because he felt this was the best he'd seen so far to
show what MPC could do.
When he sat down, he was followed by Robert Greenberg of R. Greenberg
Assocs, who do a lot of special effect and other film work. His
approximate quote "I don't understand why Bill was so excited, we've
working with moving pictures for 90 years!"
Computer people see these developments a lot like proud parents view
their children growing up. Every parent marvels at their kid taking
his first step, even though kids having been doing since the dawn of
kids. We are discovering fabulous things to do on computers, even
though they can be done in other ways as well. I hope we keep in
mind that the key reason for doing these new things is do something
unique, that we haven't been able to do any other way.
FWIW.
Best – Rich Bowers
So true. The computer people get impressed by "The Singing Horse" all
too often. (Nevermimd how badly the horse sings). That's why the
focus has to be on what Interactivity brings to the table, not just
getting closer to VHS quality (though this is also important).
I love this. I paid $42.95, plus 6% sales tax, plus UPS raised their
shipping rates 33% last month, and the package weighs about 2 lbs
with shipping container, plus I spent between 8-10 hours debugging my
OWN computer, which I charge my clients $35/hour for general computer
consulting time, plus an extra wasted trip to Price Club to find out
they don't take returns on computer software, so lets see…
$42.95 Game
2.58 Tax
——
$45.53
5.00 UPS Red shipping
——
$50.53
plus no charge for my wasted lunch, my wasted gas, and 10 hours of my
wasted, very precious time. I'd say its about a wash. That's what I
call one tough way to make a buck!
Eric 😐
Eric,
Thanks for the information. After putting up my message, I did hear about
GAMERS, and have seen a similar reaction to 7G there. Guess I'll be saving my
money.
… Keith
I re-read your original message thread, and I wanted to tell you about
LOOM, by Lucas Arts. An EXCELLENT CD-ROM game, great game for your 11
year old! I read a review put out by RIP (Jan Swank), where the
reviewer played the game with his 10 and 11 year old daughters. It
really brought the family together!
By all means, get LOOM. It is a fairy tale adventure written with the
help of genius science fiction writer Orson Scott Card. The superb
sound and actors voices comes through the phono plug on the front of
the cd rom drive, not through the cheesy sound card. I played with
headphones plugged into the drive. AWESOME sound. In fact, the
whole purpose of the game is to play 4-note musical "drafts" in the
proper sequence to perform "magical" acts.
You'll love it, judging by your original message regarding playing
Sierra type adventure games.
I had a copy, but I already sold it on CI$.
Eric