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#NEWTEK SPEAKS

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#143571From: Trent K. JohnsonMay 5, 1994 10:34 PM
The follwing information was contained in a FAX dated today (5/5/94), addressed to Canadian Dealers, from NewTek, Incorporated: ————————————————————– NewTek Incorporated May 5, 1994 Dear Friend of the Toaster, I'm sure you're aware of Commodore's recent announcement of their liquidation, as it is an issue of concern to everyone connected with the Video Toaster. Rumors have been rampant for weeks about what would happen, but getting the facts has been a little more difficult. We want you to know that we weren't caught by surprise. Events of the past nine months made it very clear that something would have to change and that Commodore;s liquidation was a possibility. It didn't take a mind reader to see Commodore's troubles. Liquidation certainlly wasn't the only possibility, however. Even as late as last week we were aware that other option were being pursued. While no one could know exactly what would happen, or when, we did know that something would happen and made plans for that eventuality. For reasons that we hope you will understand, we cannot talk about all of these things at the moment. What we can say unequivocally is that we are committed to the Video Toaster and our customers. We are taking the following steps in support of this goal: 1) Development of the Flyer is on schedule for shipment of demo units to dealers in July, and shipment to end users early fall. Of course, the Flyer provides capabilities highly sought after by the existing Toaster user base. 2) We are monitoring product availability in the channel and will provide you with all the information we can gather. As this point, is appears there are Amiga 4000's worldwide to meet demand for the next several months. 3) We will continue to market the Video Toaster and the Video Toaster Flyer as always. 4) We are investigating an Amiga refurbishment program. 5) We are continuing our ongoing Toaster development program. We realize that there are still a number of questions left unanswered, but now that as answers become available, we will pass the information on to you. A great deal of exciting development continues in Topeka and I believe you will be happy with the news coming from here as the year progresses. Sincerely, <Signature> Tim Jenison President ——————————————————————– Wednesday May 4, 1994 The Topeka Capital-Journal COMPUTER MAKER TO LIQUIDATE JENISON: LIQUIDATION NOT LIKELY TO AFFECT NEWTEK The parent company that makes the computer NewTek's Video Toaster runs on filed for liquidation in the Supreme Court of the Bahamas. But Tim Jenison, president of the Topeka based NewTek, said he's "cautiously optimistic" about the Amiga's future. "The biggest problem we have to deal with is people who think this is the end of the line for the Amiga," he said. "We basically are trying to reassure people that NewTek is not going away, the (Video) Flyer is on schedule and there are many other products in the pipeline which are not affected." Commodore International Ltd. announced late Friday that it planned to transfer its assets to "unidentified trustees" and has placed its major subsidiary, Commodore Electronics Ltd. into voluntary liquidation, according to the Associated Press. The company said it was in the initial phase of an orderly voluntary liquidation of both companies, which are incorporated in the Bahamas, by the Supreme Court of the Bahamas. Calls to Commodore Monday and Tuesday weren't returned. According to a fax sent by Creative Equipment International President Alex Amor to CEI dealers, the Commodore liquidation "won't affect the wholly owned subsidiaries, which include Commodore Business Machines (USA), Commodore Business Machines LTD (Canada), Commodore/Amiga (UK), Commodore Germany, etc." CEI is a Miami company which handles the majority of AMiga distribution in North America. The fax also said "CEI currently has sufficient Amiga inventory to meet expected demand until maufacturing resumes." In a phone interview Tuesday, Amor said the Amiga is a "long way from being dead." There's a user base of 7 million computers in the world, and the demand for the computers has gotten even stronger following Commodore's announcement. CEI is very interested in obtaining the manufacturing license for the Amiga, Armor said, adding that CEI could start manufacturing the product within a 60-day time frame once the license was obtained. He also said NewTek shouldn't be affected – there's a 120-day supply of Amigas on the market. "Ever since Commodore bought the Amiga back in 1987, most people think they've mismanaged it into the ground," Jenison said. "Almost any Amiga user could have told you 1700 ways they could have done it better. There's no love lost between the Amiga community and Commodore management." "Now it's just a matter of seeing which company or companies get the computer, get control of the technology. There are many players out there that have been waiting for this moment, a consortium of interested parties." Jenison wouldn't elaborate on NewTek's role, but said, "we're definately part of the stew." Jenison acknowledged there are at least three companies actively pursuing the Amiga, not so much for the computer itself, but for its chip set, for use in a kind of super cable box to connect with the information superhighway. The Amiga's basic technology is fully compatible with standard video signals. It's well-proven and de-bugged, and there's also a large group of experienced programmers, all of which make it a natural vehicle for the information superhighway, Jenison said. The Toaster takes of the lion's share of AMiga production, Jenison said, but he doesn't think another company will buy up that part of Commodore, and leave NewTek hanging. Although it's still early, Jenison said he believes there will be multiple technology licenses available from the trustees. Linda Windler, owner of Thoroughbred Computers in Topeka, also said she believes the Amiga still has a future. In addition to being the authorized AMiga dealer in Topeka, Thoroughbred Computers also sells IBM-compatible computers and manufactures software for them. "It's a good enough machine and particularly with the video market, someone's going to want it." Windler said. "When they liquidate, they're getting rid of everything of value." There was a shortage of Amiga monitors, but Jenison said that's been remedied. However, Y/C Plus, another Topeka company, has developed a $99 adapter, the YCP-GA, which allows the user to use other monitors, including television sets, in some cases, said Larry Heilman, president. The new adapters will be ready to ship in two weeks. Y/C Plus develops, manufactures and distributes video enhancement products, including equipment fo the Video Toaster. Paul Montgomery, Jenison's former partner and now president of PLAY, a San Francisco multimedia company, said, "It's a sad thing. The Amiga was the first computer to do multimedia, desktop video and stereo sound, right out of the box." He declined to speculate on hojw the move would affect NewTek. PLAY also includes five other former NewTek employees, plus some newcomers. ——————————————————————- the Service Management Group, Inc. May 2, 1994 The Service Management Group, Inc., a Maryland Corporation, today released the following statement: "Because of our close ties with Commodroe Business Machines, we feel the following information is important to our current customers and owners of Commodore equipment throughout the United Staes. The Service Management Group is not, and never has been, a part of Commodore Business Machines and is not affected by any Commodore decision regarding their status as a going concern. As of today, the SMG has no specific information that was not contained in the Commodore press release last week." "The Service Management Group is still doing business as usual. The SMG believes that its existing contract with Commodore remains in force and we will continue to be the sole authorized distributor for dealer support, service parts and warranty fufillment. We continue to sell parts and provide service for Commodore Products." "The SMG ProCare program remains in full effect. All SMG ProCare customers should be aware that we have an adequate supply of parts to provide support for all ProCare customers." "We are attempting to contact the Commodore trustees mentioned in the Commodore press release. Any long term questions about product warranty, parts availibility and plans for Commodore's future can only be answered by the trustees." "Questions regarding parts purchaes, availibility, depot repairs or help desk should be directed to the SMG Exten, PA office at (610) 363-4000. Questions about SMG ProCare contract availibility, dealer support or other coverage concerns should be direct to the SMG Columbia, MD office at (410) 992-9975." "Any questions regarding Commodore should be directed to Commodore." Paul Bielski, President the Service Management Group, Inc. ———————————————————————— The saga (has this actually qualified for official "saga" status yet?) continues… Trent/ReAnimators
#143676From: Rick ThornquistMay 6, 1994 9:51 AM
Re:Jenison's letter to dealers I love this kind of stuff. Can anyone point out somewhere in this letter where there is any actual information? Rick – On Autopilot from Vancouver
#143751From: Alex BakerMay 6, 1994 3:45 PM
What? You need a translation? "Don't worry, be happy. Everything will be ok. Buy product." On a more serious note…. Have you ever seen any company say, "Well, we don't know if we can make this deal work. If you committ money, you best have some to spare, beacuse you may need to nuy something else, if all this falls apart."? Newtek's in a bind. The platform they have tied themselves to, may have sunk beneath the waves, never to return. Their choices are to either say, "Amiga is dead.", and hope that the market waits for them to finish an alternative, and hope that he cash holds out while they do, or to tell us not to worry, and hope that they can get by on reduced sales till the alternative is completed. Personally I think the demise of the Amiga was a plot buy current and future media machine producers who didn't want the competition of Newtek. The Amiga sales were never a threat to anyone, (except Atari), while Toaster sales did put a dent in the others.
#143831From: Richard EricksonMay 6, 1994 10:03 PM
>> Personally I think the demise of the Amiga was a plot buy current and >> future media machine producers who didn't want the competition of Newtek. The demise of Commodore was for the most part their own doing. The Amiga is in trouble just by having Commodore manufacture it.
#143816From: Wes TattersMay 6, 1994 8:50 PM
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#143815From: Wes TattersMay 6, 1994 8:50 PM
But will they every release a PAL toaster. There is a whole now market waiting for it. If there are 7,000,000 Amiga's world wide how many are NTSC. My guess says that over have are PAL maybe as high as 80%. Anyone care to comment ?? :: How's my DRIVING – 100036,174 – ON AUTOPILOT :: :: WES TATTERS, BRIZ 31, AUSTRALIA ::
#144195From: Wayne ColeMay 8, 1994 2:25 AM
NewTek officially supports the Prime Image Passport 4000 standards converter that allows the Toaster to operate with PAL, PAL-M, PAL-N, SECAM, and NTSC 4.43. MSRP $6750 wmc – via Autopilot!
#144372From: Paul IdolMay 8, 1994 9:03 PM
Whoa. Waitaminute. The -Passport- costs $6750 BY ITSELF? ???? ???????? Whatever happened to the desktop video revolution? Paul
#144438From: Wayne ColeMay 9, 1994 3:06 AM
Prime Image sets the price, NewTek just looked at it and decided that the processing PI did to get smooth conversion does not degrade Toaster output in any meaningful way. Remember it is a mult-standards converter. Ever price just a single converter (like NTSC to PAL) that did better than radio shack quality? wmc – via Autopilot!
#144538From: Paul IdolMay 9, 1994 4:37 PM
Maybe so, but it still is going to place Toaster systems out of reach of many PAL customers. Paul
#144896From: Wes TattersMay 11, 1994 7:53 AM
Great < not > !!! TOASTER $2500, PAL-NTSC $6570 how many imputs. AMIGA $4000 TBC ???? Gee. VIDEO MACHINE & DVISION look better and better. What a joke – converting PAL to NTSC and back !! Just because of NEWTEK's incompetance !! :: How's my DRIVING – 100036,174 – ON AUTOPILOT :: :: WES TATTERS, BRIZ 31, AUSTRALIA ::
#145083From: Ronald B. RomineMay 12, 1994 1:04 AM
WT >>TOASTER $2500, PAL-NTSC $6570 how many inputs. AMIGA $4000 TBC ????<< I'm not into Video, but I'm assuming your talking about the Passport 4000. From the little I've read about it, it could be an great addition for those that need to international video work. Ok, the Passport looks like a bandaid to the VT's lack of PAL output. However, the Passport can convert from the VT's NTSC to PAL, PAL-M, PAL-N, SECAM, and NTSC 4.43. This is four more formats than it would have if the VT was just NTSC & PAL. Ron. – ap'ing with AP. (Eagles may fly, but weasels aren't sucked into jet engines.)
#145099From: Wayne ColeMay 12, 1994 1:41 AM
>>Just because of NEWTEK's incompetance !! Well, I think it was a marketting choice and an accident of history rather than commodorism. The heritage was digipaint (NTSC) from a small company in an NTSC country. I think basically, they decided to walk in the U.S. before they tried running in the World scene. And based on their success fo date, it is hard to argue with their decisions. As for the Passport, it looks large enough that there must be a card cage inside for some other goodies. It is a pretty high price, but again, NewTek has no control over it since it is entirely Prime Image's creation. wmc – via Autopilot!
#144200From: Trent K. JohnsonMay 8, 1994 2:56 AM
Well Wes, according to the lastest issue of Video Toaster User, NewTek is working on a transcoding device with Prime Image that may allow PAL output from the Toaster. I agree, they have to address the PAL market. Certainly makes me think that the Toaster relies heavily on the Amigas 15 KHz sync rate… Trent
#144397From: Jim SakladMay 8, 1994 10:39 PM
Wes – > If there are 7,000,000 Amiga's world wide how many are NTSC. My guess > says that over have are PAL maybe as high as 80%. But how many of the total are 1000's, 500's, 600's, 1200's that no-one would want to try to use a toaster with. How many 2000's 3000's 3000T's 4000's 4000T's ? And where are THEY? . . . . JimDoc, on AutoPilot
#144937From: Paul TylerMay 11, 1994 1:21 PM
Yeah Wes with 16 million users in Europe I think yer estimates are a little way off the mark. STARFIRE cruising the stratosphere MOTOROLA 040 and AUTOPILOT ENGAGED!
#145125From: Andres StaubliMay 12, 1994 7:23 AM
Waiting for VT with PAL …… Andres Staeubli Switzerland cruising with Compuserve Manager on PC Cross
#144082From: Mr. ChalleronMay 7, 1994 10:48 PM
I like the line about "the demand for the computers has gotten even stronger following Commodore's announcement". Gee…. You think maybe if we'd actually _bought_ AGA computers while Commodore was _making_ them, that maybe they wouldn't have gone bust?…
#144143From: Michael A McCormickMay 8, 1994 12:02 AM
I was under the impression that we *were* buying them while Commode-door was making them. Every time I talked to my dealer he said that the A4000's were always back ordered. The problem was that they weren't making them fast enough. Mike McCormick
#144146From: Paul IdolMay 8, 1994 12:10 AM
> Gee…. You think maybe if we'd actually _bought_ AGA computers while >Commodore was _making_ them, that maybe they wouldn't have gone bust?… 1200s were purchased as fast as they could be made, I think. 4000s are just too danged expensive. Over 2 grand PLUS monitor, and that with small hard drive. I may yet get a 4000, but I -will- cringe at the price. Unless things change. Paul
#144201From: Trent K. JohnsonMay 8, 1994 2:57 AM
Yeah, could be. There's one thing for sure, this whole thing's still got a long way to go…. Trent/ReAnimators
#144239From: Vance SchowalterMay 8, 1994 10:42 AM
No. CBM management were determined to ruin the company, so it wouldn't matter how many you'd buy. -= Vance =- Image Master Flying high on Black Belt Systems' Imagemaster R/t!
#144248From: Chris LesterMay 8, 1994 11:29 AM
>>Gee…. You think maybe if we'd actually _bought_ AGA computers while Commodore was _making_ them, that maybe they wouldn't have gone bust?… Now why would we want to do that? Prolong Irv and Med's control over the system. No amount of sales would have stopped them from going bust… it just would have prolonged it. Chris – Fast and Low on my '020! "Are we having fun yet?!?" -Anonymous A1200 User