#NEWTEK SPEAKS
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The follwing information was contained in a FAX dated today (5/5/94), addressed
to Canadian Dealers, from NewTek, Incorporated:
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NewTek Incorporated
May 5, 1994
Dear Friend of the Toaster,
I'm sure you're aware of Commodore's recent announcement of their liquidation,
as it is an issue of concern to everyone connected with the Video Toaster.
Rumors have been rampant for weeks about what would happen, but getting the
facts has been a little more difficult.
We want you to know that we weren't caught by surprise. Events of the past
nine months made it very clear that something would have to change and that
Commodore;s liquidation was a possibility. It didn't take a mind reader to see
Commodore's troubles.
Liquidation certainlly wasn't the only possibility, however. Even as late as
last week we were aware that other option were being pursued. While no one
could know exactly what would happen, or when, we did know that something would
happen and made plans for that eventuality. For reasons that we hope you will
understand, we cannot talk about all of these things at the moment. What we
can say unequivocally is that we are committed to the Video Toaster and our
customers. We are taking the following steps in support of this goal:
1) Development of the Flyer is on schedule for shipment of demo units to
dealers in July, and shipment to end users early fall. Of course, the Flyer
provides capabilities highly sought after by the existing Toaster user base.
2) We are monitoring product availability in the channel and will provide you
with all the information we can gather. As this point, is appears there are
Amiga 4000's worldwide to meet demand for the next several months.
3) We will continue to market the Video Toaster and the Video Toaster Flyer as
always.
4) We are investigating an Amiga refurbishment program.
5) We are continuing our ongoing Toaster development program.
We realize that there are still a number of questions left unanswered, but now
that as answers become available, we will pass the information on to you. A
great deal of exciting development continues in Topeka and I believe you will
be happy with the news coming from here as the year progresses.
Sincerely,
<Signature>
Tim Jenison President
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Wednesday May 4, 1994
The Topeka Capital-Journal
COMPUTER MAKER TO LIQUIDATE
JENISON: LIQUIDATION NOT LIKELY TO AFFECT NEWTEK
The parent company that makes the computer NewTek's Video Toaster runs on
filed for liquidation in the Supreme Court of the Bahamas. But Tim Jenison,
president of the Topeka based NewTek, said he's "cautiously optimistic" about
the Amiga's future.
"The biggest problem we have to deal with is people who think this is the end
of the line for the Amiga," he said. "We basically are trying to reassure
people that NewTek is not going away, the (Video) Flyer is on schedule and
there are many other products in the pipeline which are not affected."
Commodore International Ltd. announced late Friday that it planned to
transfer its assets to "unidentified trustees" and has placed its major
subsidiary, Commodore Electronics Ltd. into voluntary liquidation, according to
the Associated Press.
The company said it was in the initial phase of an orderly voluntary
liquidation of both companies, which are incorporated in the Bahamas, by the
Supreme Court of the Bahamas. Calls to Commodore Monday and Tuesday weren't
returned.
According to a fax sent by Creative Equipment International President Alex
Amor to CEI dealers, the Commodore liquidation "won't affect the wholly owned
subsidiaries, which include Commodore Business Machines (USA), Commodore
Business Machines LTD (Canada), Commodore/Amiga (UK), Commodore Germany, etc."
CEI is a Miami company which handles the majority of AMiga distribution in
North America.
The fax also said "CEI currently has sufficient Amiga inventory to meet
expected demand until maufacturing resumes."
In a phone interview Tuesday, Amor said the Amiga is a "long way from being
dead." There's a user base of 7 million computers in the world, and the demand
for the computers has gotten even stronger following Commodore's announcement.
CEI is very interested in obtaining the manufacturing license for the Amiga,
Armor said, adding that CEI could start manufacturing the product within a
60-day time frame once the license was obtained. He also said NewTek shouldn't
be affected – there's a 120-day supply of Amigas on the market.
"Ever since Commodore bought the Amiga back in 1987, most people think
they've mismanaged it into the ground," Jenison said. "Almost any Amiga user
could have told you 1700 ways they could have done it better. There's no love
lost between the Amiga community and Commodore management."
"Now it's just a matter of seeing which company or companies get the
computer, get control of the technology. There are many players out there that
have been waiting for this moment, a consortium of interested parties."
Jenison wouldn't elaborate on NewTek's role, but said, "we're definately part
of the stew."
Jenison acknowledged there are at least three companies actively pursuing the
Amiga, not so much for the computer itself, but for its chip set, for use in a
kind of super cable box to connect with the information superhighway.
The Amiga's basic technology is fully compatible with standard video signals.
It's well-proven and de-bugged, and there's also a large group of experienced
programmers, all of which make it a natural vehicle for the information
superhighway, Jenison said.
The Toaster takes of the lion's share of AMiga production, Jenison said, but
he doesn't think another company will buy up that part of Commodore, and leave
NewTek hanging. Although it's still early, Jenison said he believes there will
be multiple technology licenses available from the trustees.
Linda Windler, owner of Thoroughbred Computers in Topeka, also said she
believes the Amiga still has a future. In addition to being the authorized
AMiga dealer in Topeka, Thoroughbred Computers also sells IBM-compatible
computers and manufactures software for them.
"It's a good enough machine and particularly with the video market, someone's
going to want it." Windler said. "When they liquidate, they're getting rid of
everything of value."
There was a shortage of Amiga monitors, but Jenison said that's been
remedied.
However, Y/C Plus, another Topeka company, has developed a $99 adapter, the
YCP-GA, which allows the user to use other monitors, including television sets,
in some cases, said Larry Heilman, president. The new adapters will be ready
to ship in two weeks.
Y/C Plus develops, manufactures and distributes video enhancement products,
including equipment fo the Video Toaster.
Paul Montgomery, Jenison's former partner and now president of PLAY, a San
Francisco multimedia company, said, "It's a sad thing. The Amiga was the first
computer to do multimedia, desktop video and stereo sound, right out of the
box."
He declined to speculate on hojw the move would affect NewTek. PLAY also
includes five other former NewTek employees, plus some newcomers.
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the Service Management Group, Inc.
May 2, 1994
The Service Management Group, Inc., a Maryland Corporation, today released the
following statement:
"Because of our close ties with Commodroe Business Machines, we feel the
following information is important to our current customers and owners of
Commodore equipment throughout the United Staes. The Service Management Group
is not, and never has been, a part of Commodore Business Machines and is not
affected by any Commodore decision regarding their status as a going concern.
As of today, the SMG has no specific information that was not contained in the
Commodore press release last week."
"The Service Management Group is still doing business as usual. The SMG
believes that its existing contract with Commodore remains in force and we will
continue to be the sole authorized distributor for dealer support, service
parts and warranty fufillment. We continue to sell parts and provide service
for Commodore Products."
"The SMG ProCare program remains in full effect. All SMG ProCare customers
should be aware that we have an adequate supply of parts to provide support for
all ProCare customers."
"We are attempting to contact the Commodore trustees mentioned in the
Commodore press release. Any long term questions about product warranty, parts
availibility and plans for Commodore's future can only be answered by the
trustees."
"Questions regarding parts purchaes, availibility, depot repairs or help desk
should be directed to the SMG Exten, PA office at (610) 363-4000. Questions
about SMG ProCare contract availibility, dealer support or other coverage
concerns should be direct to the SMG Columbia, MD office at (410) 992-9975."
"Any questions regarding Commodore should be directed to Commodore."
Paul Bielski, President the Service Management Group, Inc.
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The saga (has this actually qualified for official "saga" status yet?)
continues…
Trent/ReAnimators
Re:Jenison's letter to dealers
I love this kind of stuff. Can anyone point out somewhere in this letter
where there is any actual information?
Rick – On Autopilot from Vancouver
What? You need a translation?
"Don't worry, be happy. Everything will be ok. Buy product."
On a more serious note….
Have you ever seen any company say, "Well, we don't know if we can make this
deal work. If you committ money, you best have some to spare, beacuse you may
need to nuy something else, if all this falls apart."?
Newtek's in a bind. The platform they have tied themselves to, may have sunk
beneath the waves, never to return. Their choices are to either say, "Amiga is
dead.", and hope that the market waits for them to finish an alternative, and
hope that he cash holds out while they do, or to tell us not to worry, and hope
that they can get by on reduced sales till the alternative is completed.
Personally I think the demise of the Amiga was a plot buy current and future
media machine producers who didn't want the competition of Newtek. The Amiga
sales were never a threat to anyone, (except Atari), while Toaster sales did
put a dent in the others.
>> Personally I think the demise of the Amiga was a plot buy current and
>> future media machine producers who didn't want the competition of Newtek.
The demise of Commodore was for the most part their own doing. The Amiga is in
trouble just by having Commodore manufacture it.
In the tag line at the bottom – Unless its an assumed name 🙂
:: How's my DRIVING – 100036,174 – ON AUTOPILOT ::
:: WES TATTERS, BRIZ 31, AUSTRALIA ::
But will they every release a PAL toaster. There is a whole now market
waiting for it.
If there are 7,000,000 Amiga's world wide how many are NTSC. My guess
says that over have are PAL maybe as high as 80%.
Anyone care to comment ??
:: How's my DRIVING – 100036,174 – ON AUTOPILOT ::
:: WES TATTERS, BRIZ 31, AUSTRALIA ::
NewTek officially supports the Prime Image Passport 4000 standards
converter that allows the Toaster to operate with PAL, PAL-M, PAL-N,
SECAM, and NTSC 4.43. MSRP $6750
wmc – via Autopilot!
Whoa. Waitaminute. The -Passport- costs $6750 BY ITSELF? ???? ????????
Whatever happened to the desktop video revolution?
Paul
Prime Image sets the price, NewTek just looked at it and decided that the
processing PI did to get smooth conversion does not degrade Toaster output
in any meaningful way.
Remember it is a mult-standards converter. Ever price just a single
converter (like NTSC to PAL) that did better than radio shack quality?
wmc – via Autopilot!
Great < not > !!!
TOASTER $2500, PAL-NTSC $6570 how many imputs. AMIGA $4000 TBC ????
Gee. VIDEO MACHINE & DVISION look better and better.
What a joke – converting PAL to NTSC and back !!
Just because of NEWTEK's incompetance !!
:: How's my DRIVING – 100036,174 – ON AUTOPILOT ::
:: WES TATTERS, BRIZ 31, AUSTRALIA ::
WT >>TOASTER $2500, PAL-NTSC $6570 how many inputs. AMIGA $4000 TBC
????<<
I'm not into Video, but I'm assuming your talking about the Passport 4000.
From the little I've read about it, it could be an great addition for
those that need to international video work.
Ok, the Passport looks like a bandaid to the VT's lack of PAL output.
However, the Passport can convert from the VT's NTSC to PAL, PAL-M, PAL-N,
SECAM, and NTSC 4.43. This is four more formats than it would have if the
VT was just NTSC & PAL.
Ron.
– ap'ing with AP. (Eagles may fly, but weasels aren't sucked
into jet engines.)
>>Just because of NEWTEK's incompetance !!
Well, I think it was a marketting choice and an accident of history rather
than commodorism. The heritage was digipaint (NTSC) from a small company
in an NTSC country. I think basically, they decided to walk in the U.S.
before they tried running in the World scene. And based on their success
fo date, it is hard to argue with their decisions.
As for the Passport, it looks large enough that there must be a card cage
inside for some other goodies. It is a pretty high price, but again,
NewTek has no control over it since it is entirely Prime Image's creation.
wmc – via Autopilot!
Well Wes, according to the lastest issue of Video Toaster User, NewTek is
working on a transcoding device with Prime Image that may allow PAL output from
the Toaster. I agree, they have to address the PAL market. Certainly makes me
think that the Toaster relies heavily on the Amigas 15 KHz sync rate…
Trent
Wes –
> If there are 7,000,000 Amiga's world wide how many are NTSC. My guess
> says that over have are PAL maybe as high as 80%.
But how many of the total are 1000's, 500's, 600's, 1200's that no-one
would want to try to use a toaster with.
How many 2000's 3000's 3000T's 4000's 4000T's ?
And where are THEY?
. . . . JimDoc, on AutoPilot
Yeah Wes with 16 million users in Europe I think yer estimates are a
little way off the mark.
STARFIRE cruising the stratosphere
MOTOROLA 040 and AUTOPILOT ENGAGED!
Waiting for VT with PAL ……
Andres Staeubli Switzerland
cruising with Compuserve Manager on PC Cross
I like the line about "the demand for the computers has gotten even
stronger following Commodore's announcement".
Gee…. You think maybe if we'd actually _bought_ AGA computers while
Commodore was _making_ them, that maybe they wouldn't have gone bust?…
I was under the impression that we *were* buying them while Commode-door was
making them. Every time I talked to my dealer he said that the A4000's were
always back ordered. The problem was that they weren't making them fast
enough.
Mike McCormick
> Gee…. You think maybe if we'd actually _bought_ AGA computers while
>Commodore was _making_ them, that maybe they wouldn't have gone bust?…
1200s were purchased as fast as they could be made, I think. 4000s are
just too danged expensive. Over 2 grand PLUS monitor, and that with small
hard drive. I may yet get a 4000, but I -will- cringe at the price.
Unless things change.
Paul
Yeah, could be. There's one thing for sure, this whole thing's still got a
long way to go….
Trent/ReAnimators
No. CBM management were determined to ruin the company, so it wouldn't
matter how many you'd buy.
-= Vance =- Image Master
Flying high on Black Belt Systems' Imagemaster R/t!
>>Gee…. You think maybe if we'd actually _bought_ AGA computers while
Commodore was _making_ them, that maybe they wouldn't have gone bust?…
Now why would we want to do that? Prolong Irv and Med's control over the
system. No amount of sales would have stopped them from going bust… it
just would have prolonged it.
Chris – Fast and Low on my '020!
"Are we having fun yet?!?" -Anonymous A1200 User