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#32059From: CARL SMITHJan 14, 1993 2:36 PM
Greg- Speaking of rendering. I stopped the rendering, for a brief moment, to see how the files look and I was just wondering. If I'm rendering for video output with, fields-on, alpha-off, texture blure-1.2, and so should the .tga files, that have already been rendered in this configuration, show the face lines or in other words not look as good as when fields-off when viewing them from within 3ds on the computer screen. Will the files look correct once transferred to tape? Thanks Carl-
#32126From: Jan 15, 1993 1:12 AM
Carl: Fields ON will always look strange when looked at individually. You can get a pretty good look at them by either: 1) view them with a program like TIPS which has a field copy routine, or 2) capture them in a TBC or such which can capture in field mode. This will lower the resolution, of course, but hardly noticeable if what you want is a quick view to make sure all is going well. Now you see why a network is so good to have when rendering! Write the files out to the net and view them from another machine without stopping the rendering! Greg Pyros
#32223From: CARL SMITHJan 15, 1993 9:56 PM
Greg- Wew! Glad to hear that. I thought I would have to re-render everthing. I need that Spac10. Have any extra lying around? Thanks for the info Carl-
#32224From: CARL SMITHJan 15, 1993 9:56 PM
Greg- Sorry, I forgot to ask, what is a TBC? Carl
#32239From: Jan 15, 1993 11:56 PM
Carl: TBC stands for Time Base Corrector, a fun little piecs of hardware which cleans up jitters in video tape play-back. It is required for quality rotoscoping from tape. It will improve your frame-by-frame animation. It is highly recommended for an edit suite. There are many options for TBCs these days, from boards that fit in a slot in your PC, to stand alone rack-mount units. Some have color control, frame grab, field grab, etc. Others do nothing but correct time base errors. Prices range from $500 for the PC boards to $5,000 for dual TBCs that make you coffee when you are editing late into the night! Greg Pyros
#32255From: Craig Sharp [Mem TM]Jan 16, 1993 9:48 AM
Greg: Does that translate to 'They allow for capstan speed variance?' (TBCs). C#
#32257From: Jan 16, 1993 10:25 AM
C# Or maybe "they correct capstan speed variance?" (TBCs) <g> Greg
#32306From: Craig Sharp [Mem TM]Jan 16, 1993 7:34 PM
Greg: I was being serious… I wanted to make sure that I understood their function… can you use them for anything else? Do you think a waveform generator is necessary? What about other esoteric (to the PC world) hardware? C#
#32333From: Jan 16, 1993 9:56 PM
Craig: It all depends on what you are doing with the final animation. Is it going on Broadcast TV? Industrial? Home? For broadcast, all the goodies should be used. For industrial, they aren't really needed, but nice. (TBC required, though) For home, who cares? Broadcast: D1, D2, 1", Beta SP, write-once laser disk Industrial: 3/4"SP, M-2, re-writable laser disk Home: VHS, SVHS, Hi-8 Let me know which catagory you are interested in, and then some recommendations can be made. Greg Pyros
#32352From: Craig Sharp [Mem TM]Jan 17, 1993 7:45 AM
Greg: A combination of concerns… differing primarily in the number of generations required… In house presentation to clients (Hi-8 would be my current guess) with the ability to produce OR obtain (via service bureau) promotional video composites that require multiple copies… I'm guessing that either A.You take the PC into a service bureau and do the once in a while higher quality stuff there or rent the equipment or B. You have a service bureau combine your in-house tapes or portions thereof). Or, you just send out your 3DS file and let someone else do it… wherein I would want to be able to figure out at what point you're at break even if you buy all the required stuff and don't do outside service for others…). Editing… hmmm… probably doesn't include SMTE time coding for exact sound effect coordination, but requires blending of different sequences (to avoid HUGE storage requirements I am assuming a frame accurate controllable deck), clean up, and the addition of voice over/sound track. C#
#32369From: Jan 17, 1993 1:22 PM
Craig: The break-even point depends on MANY factors! 1) How much work you do in-house, and your overhead. 2) How much you are getting paid for said work! 3) How much equipment you purchase, and what type. Simple voo-doo economics! But then, you must consider… 4) Will you be able to get more work BECAUSE you have the high-end equipment in-house? 5) Will the quality of your work increase because you can do more tests more economically? 6) Could you justify the expense by becoming a service-bureau yourself? 7) At what time do you go broke justifying all these new toys? We have been rather successful having the high-end equipment in-house, IMHO, by a combination of 4, 5, and 6 above. Greg Pyros
#32613From: Clark Severson [YVP]Jan 19, 1993 12:32 AM
Greg: How dare you put MII in the "industrial" format heading??? Come to my office in Costa Mesa sometime (Newport & Fairview) and we'll set you straight <g> Clark Severson Your Video Productions (and obviously an MII user)
#32643From: Jan 19, 1993 10:46 AM
Clark: I'd be happy to come over! E-mail me your address & phone number! Greg
#32710From: CSA/CAJan 19, 1993 6:40 PM
Clark, Howdy, remember to get me that letter and a copy of the report for Autodesk. Let me know how things go with Image North. Kevin Krell – Computer Support Associates
#32739From: Clark Severson [YVP]Jan 20, 1993 12:32 AM
Kevin, Can't get the report till this Friday…red tape…oh well…believe me now and hear me later…I will get it to you A.S.A.P. Thank you for all your help. Clark