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#IPAS/REL.3

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#72526From: Rob WilliamsDec 19, 1993 7:44 PM
Which, if any, of the original ipas routines will work with 3ds rel.3? are there any known problems? Thanks… -Rob
#72562From: Yost GroupDec 19, 1993 11:44 PM
All of the Yost Group IPAS routines for r2 work with r3, but there are a couple of gotchas. Here they are: 1) Silicon Garden requires a patch (available on the Schreiber Instruments BBS). 2) The ixp's in Disk#1 (glow, hilite, etc.) only work in 24-bit color space, and you won't get the color resolution that r3's 64-bit color provides. I'll have updates for that disk early next year. Other developers who wrote IPAS routines with the Watcom compiler could possibly run into problems with routines that worked in r2 due to Phar Lap changes and the Watcom maxmem function. Our ipasfix.exe program (that ships with r3) should fix most of them, but you'd theoretically be able to create problems that would require more than ipasfix.exe to fix. – G
#72630From: Rob WilliamsDec 20, 1993 7:56 AM
Thanks alot. How can I find the the number for the BBS? Can you help? -R
#72643From: Yost GroupDec 20, 1993 9:48 AM
It's 303/759/3598. Once you're on, look for the Yost section and the SG11.ZIP file. – G
#72646From: Rob WilliamsDec 20, 1993 9:53 AM
Thanks again. Happy Holidays! -R
#72669From: David RhotenDec 20, 1993 10:49 AM
The Scriebner BBS is: Happy Canyon BBS 303-759-3598 14400 or lower. Dave
#72856From: Mike ParkhillDec 21, 1993 4:28 PM
Question for Yost Group RE: IPAS #1 and 3DS R3. I have a client who wants to "Blur" an image/object w/Alpha channel that will be composited over another image in Video Post part of 3DSR3. Is it possible to blur the foreground image without blurring the background image, and if so, how?
#72860From: Jonas Ruikis [ADESK]Dec 21, 1993 4:54 PM
Hi Mike, The Blur Filter is used like any other IXP in Video Post; it is added to the image queue. Blur only affects queue items above it, so placement in the queue can be very important for alpha-channel control. On page 11 of the #1 Image Processing IPAS manual you will find a description of how to contrain the filter by the alpha channel. Jonas[adesk]
#73067From: Fernando PuertasDec 23, 1993 5:31 AM
Pardon for jumping in, but… Is there a new IPAS to work with rel 3?, without fixes, etc..? Thanks Fernando
#73200From: Yost GroupDec 24, 1993 11:20 AM
I'm not sure what you mean, Fernando. All of our IPAS routines that worked with R2 also work with R3. The only issues are that ixp's built for R2 won't be network-aware or gamma/64-bit capable. But they'll work with R3 exactly as they worked with R2. – G
#73214From: Don LandisDec 24, 1993 2:04 PM
>>But they'll work with R3 exactly as they worked with R2. Gary I beg to differ with you on this. With Hilite and Lens Flare IXP's a gradient background will be 24 bit true color gradient in release 2. When the same IXP's are used with the same gradient in Release 3 the gradient becomes banded and the graphics become pixelated like a poor 256 color dithering. Remove the IPX and release 3 yields its normal superb quality color. I just finished a sizeable job and I definitly had to go back to release 2 to get the IXP's to work in true color even though I had to give up the release 3 antialiasing superior performance. In addition, I tried to use a gradient background rendered to a TGA and then turn on 24 bit dither in release 3. It removed the banding but still had that pixelated look. So it was a nostalgic return to Release 2.01a for me. BTW: The client was ecstatic over the results. I did a thing like that Render Club animation where the company's logo upwells out of the ocean, complete with sunrise and animated clouds and ocean fog. Release 2 is still a very good and capable product!
#73216From: Yost GroupDec 24, 1993 2:33 PM
Oops. I forgot about that. You're absolutely correct. An IXP written for R2 will quantize the colors in R3 because it's doing color calculations in a completely different color space than R3's 16-bit-per-channel image buffers. If you're doing hilite, flare or glow operations, it's probably best to stick with R2 until we can get the R3-compatible IXP's written. (Tom Hudson moved in October and November, and has been making his new house livable (major remodelling job), so he hasn't had a chance to get the new ixp's done yet. I'm hoping that after this week he can get them done in January.) – G
#73511From: MalcolmDec 28, 1993 8:21 PM
G, "it's probably best to stick with R2 until we can get the R3- compatible IXP's written." I have version 3 and just purchased the IPAS Disk Set #1. It seems I did not purchase the R3 version. Will I get a free upgrade when it is ready? Thanks in advance. Malcolm
#73562From: Yost GroupDec 29, 1993 10:41 AM
The R3-enhanced IXP's for Disk#1 will be ready within a month or so and I'll be posting a msg here when they are. For people who bought the package directly from the Schreiber folks (ie, they're on the database), a free electronic upgrade will be available by CIS. For folks who bought the packages retail (ie, no record/database to check), they'll have to send their original disk back to Schreiber for the update, along with a minor handling fee. – G
#73580From: Dec 29, 1993 11:49 AM
Gary: That sounds like a major disadvantage to all those who bought through your authorized dealers! Can't buyers have the option of going through their dealer to get the upgrade? The serial numbers are recorded by Schreiber when the dealers purchased them, so it should be easy to track. I realize that some dealers may not want to hassle with a free upgrade, but for those of us who do provide full service, we would like to make our client's lives easier! Greg Pyros [Pyros Partnership, Inc] gpyros@pyros.com 29-Dec-93 at 9:25a PST
#73591From: James M. MurphyDec 29, 1993 1:14 PM
Uh… Greg….I'll do their free upgrades for Em'..<BG> Murph'
#73657From: Yost GroupDec 30, 1993 10:38 AM
You're right. Given how busy I already am with R4, I should just ask everyone to upgrade via mail through Schreiber, and dispense with the electronic free upgrade completely. In self-preservation mode, – G
#73678From: Dec 30, 1993 1:45 PM
G: _OR_ send the disk to their dealer, who can upgrade a bunch at once… Greg Pyros
#73637From: Angelo Guarino [DTI Inc]Dec 30, 1993 7:44 AM
Gary, Ditto! .. what Greg just said. Please do not setup systems which make it a disadvantage for customers to buy from us who are doing a good job with the products! How about this. Allow the dealers to verify that the customers actually bought the products from them and we can forward these names to Schrieber as needed. Then the customer will have access to the BBS just as any other. Happy New Year! Ang