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#13279 Clone Controllers Message #13345
From: Blaise Pabon Adobe Forum · Tool Box October 5, 1989 9:55 PM
Oh my God, i just bought an NTX ! at any rate I don curently have a Mac with slots Blaise.
#13312 #Clone Controllers Message #13344
From: Brad Walrod <Sysop> Adobe Forum · Tool Box October 5, 1989 9:22 PM
Jon, Are you going to Info '89 at the Javits Center next week? I have a feeling the Mac representation will be small, but the show should be interesting. Bell Atlantic is supposed to have a heck of a booth, including interactive displays and a theater "that will surround your…
From: Kathleen Tinkel Adobe Forum · Videophile October 5, 1989 8:54 PM
Thanks. Are you a designer? I remember that you work on a PC, but don't know if I ever knew what you do.
#13333 #Type 1 Specs Message #13342
From: Nathan Dickson Adobe Forum · Talk to the Trade October 5, 1989 8:38 PM
What would be ideal, using the two master theory, is for the font description to be device smart. It would pull the default matrix and use it to test what size/resolution ratio it's printing at. At that point it would grab two versions of the same character, each specified for…
From: Nathan Dickson Adobe Forum · PostScript October 5, 1989 8:29 PM
Notice that showpage was 'appended'. This means that a call to showpage from any program will still call showpage, only now it will be YOUR showpage. Just remember that when you actually wish to print a page, you must now call showpage* or whatever you redefined the true procedure to…
#13331 Type 1 Specs Message #13339
From: Steve Werner Adobe Forum · Talk to the Trade October 5, 1989 7:39 PM
Jon, We'll probably know a lot more about the current font capabilities of Type 1 fonts after the specs are published. Until then, what we're talking about is pretty speculative. The PostScript upgrade would be welcome. The SPS Association has quite an extensive list of extensions they would like to…
#13337 Screen font display Message #13338
From: barry n sher Adobe Forum · Typeface Lib/IBM October 5, 1989 7:15 PM
Go to EDIT:PREFERENCES in PC PageMaker, not the Control Panel. Also try asking on ALDUS or MSAPP forums.
#13162 #Screen font display Message #13337
From: Steve Souza Adobe Forum · Typeface Lib/IBM October 5, 1989 6:45 PM
I recently spoke with Nelson from Adobe systems and he indicated that the screen fonts display is controlled by my application (PC pagemaker). that is, the dislay of the chosen typeface in point sizes in between the loaded , standard, bit-mapped PageMaker defaults to helvetica & times roman when displaying…
NFNT Font problem Message #13336
From: Lori Haines Adobe Forum · Videophile October 5, 1989 5:59 PM
Steve – I am not sure that I follow your question. Are you actually having a problem printing out the fonts that you have in you system, or were you just _told_ that you would have a problem? What application are you using? There should not be any impact on…
#13325 Feature Sought Message #13335
From: Barry Dowell Adobe Forum · Adobe Illustrator October 5, 1989 5:53 PM
I have one other feature that I would like to see added to Illustrator, as well as most programs in general as well — A GRID feature, that would allow the user to put a grid with a specified amount of space between grid lines up on the screen to…
#13323 redefining showpage? Message #13334
From: David McComb Adobe Forum · PostScript October 5, 1989 5:53 PM
Yes, Barry. His code loads the original showpage into *showpage. When you redefine the operator with your procedures, note that the last procedure is *showpage, containing the original showpage definition. We've been using this to place logos on printed output, regardless of the application used for printing. Regards, David.
#13332 #Type 1 Specs Message #13333
From: Stephen H. Owades Adobe Forum · Talk to the Trade October 5, 1989 5:23 PM
I asked how often this two-master trick was used, and the people I was in contact with thought it was very infrequent. Optima is a very subtle face, and they recommend against its use on low-res devices; for those who insist, they provide a "simplified" version of the outline font…
#13327 #Type 1 Specs Message #13332
From: Jon Hodges Adobe Forum · Talk to the Trade October 5, 1989 3:49 PM
Stephen: That's real interesting about the Type 1 fonts. So, beyond just straight hints, there may often be two masters. No wonder the Adobe fonts look so much better on low resolution machines (if the hints can't correct a problem face, they just load up a version optimized for low-rez…
#13326 #Type 1 Specs Message #13331
From: Jon Hodges Adobe Forum · Talk to the Trade October 5, 1989 3:48 PM
Steve: Thanks a lot for the info on Parker's speech. I wonder if Adobe's bezier fonts could also be manipulated in a manner similar to that envision in a Royal "Level 3" font, given PostScript language extensions to handle such font manipulation, or if it is something that only the…
#13321 Type Manager Message #13330
From: Steve Werner Adobe Forum · Talk to the Trade October 5, 1989 2:24 PM
Craig, More technical questions should probably be directed to the Developer's desk at Adobe. But from the README file which came with my beta copy: "ATM does not support some of the more esoteric methods that QuickDraw can draw text. This means that in some applications (especially drawing and painting…
#13299 #NFNT/Suitcase Message #13329
From: Stephen H. Owades Adobe Forum · Programming October 5, 1989 1:43 PM
If you work with a service bureau, ask them for their screen font suitcases. That's the easiest way to ensure that you're compatible with what they're doing. And if they aren't using the PPA screen fonts, recommend that they change over to them.
#13298 Clone Controllers Message #13328
From: Stephen H. Owades Adobe Forum · Tool Box October 5, 1989 1:43 PM
The royalty paid to Adobe for the PostScript interpreter by a large-volume producer of laser printers like Apple is remarkably small; according to the best reports I've heard it's under $250. If you think that isn't worth it, you don't remember the state of the industry before Adobe. If you…
#13313 #Type 1 Specs Message #13327
From: Stephen H. Owades Adobe Forum · Talk to the Trade October 5, 1989 1:43 PM
Adobe type 1 fonts can contain two or more versions, so they could provide separate masters for different size ranges (with the obvious restriction that the widths would have to be the same–the computer doesn't know about size ranges or alternate font metrics). I was surprised to learn about this…
#13313 #Type 1 Specs Message #13326
From: Steve Werner Adobe Forum · Talk to the Trade October 5, 1989 1:00 PM
Jon, When I was at Seybold, I attended the meeting of the SPS Association (PostScript standards group). Mike Parker from the The Company, which is the US company which handles URW fonts and font technology, spoke on font developments in PostScript. When referring to the Royal fonts, he said that…
#13310 #Feature Sought Message #13325
From: Steve Werner Adobe Forum · Adobe Illustrator October 5, 1989 12:59 PM
Carl, This is a good suggestion for an upgrade for Illustrator. I think this feature should be built into ALL applications–not just Illustrator. QuarkXPress can give you such a listing and it's very useful. ^Steve^
Distill Message #13324
From: Lenox H. Brassell Adobe Forum · PostScript October 5, 1989 12:42 PM
Lori, Thanks for directing me to the UNSTUF.ARC — there's no need to upload an ASCII version of Distill. –Lenox
From: Barry Dowell Adobe Forum · PostScript October 5, 1989 12:32 PM
One more quick question Nathan — does that still result in the normal showpage being executed — I do still want that happen, after of course my routine takes place. Thanks in advance Barry
#13285 redefining showpage? Message #13322
From: Barry Dowell Adobe Forum · PostScript October 5, 1989 12:12 PM
Thanks for that big favor Nathan — I have wanted to do this routine to insert a slug line on the pages that we output as a service bureau — I believe it was you that also gave me the routine to print the system page number, and that with…
#Type Manager Message #13321
From: Craig Brown Adobe Forum · Talk to the Trade October 5, 1989 11:10 AM
Could anyone answer some questions about Adobe Type Manager? I am developing my own applications on a Macintosh Plus using Turbo Pascal. The applications will use the Image Writer II. If I stay within the printing guidelines prescribed by Inside Macintosh, will I be able to take advantage of Adobe…
#13310 #Feature Sought Message #13319
From: Nathan Dickson Adobe Forum · Adobe Illustrator October 5, 1989 7:20 AM
Interesting to note (I run a service bureau in Columbus, Ohio): Illustrator knows the printer font names, unlike any other DTP program. This means that screen fonts need not be loaded for output (no substitution occurs, it's already done at your level). Just thought you'd like to know.
#13299 #NFNT/Suitcase Message #13318
From: Nathan Dickson Adobe Forum · Programming October 5, 1989 7:13 AM
The better method of accomplishing what you seek can be better obtained using Font Harmony (coupled with Suitcase II). Remember, the important thing isn't that you have such and such number for Palatino FOND and such and such number for Palatino Roman FONT or NFNT, but that all are different.…
#AFM to WID Message #13317
From: David Perrell Adobe Forum · PostScript October 5, 1989 5:05 AM
Greetings, and salivations (for edification)… Is there a utility available to convert AFM files to Ventura WID files? I'd like to edit kerning data–easy to do on an AFM, need a road map for a WID. If no utility, hows about a road map for WID files? Enlightened thusly, I…
#13304 #Using Type Message #13316
From: Mike Musick/Ass't Sysop Adobe Forum · Service Bureaus October 5, 1989 1:40 AM
Is MacUser using DTP to do the magazine now? MacWorld has made a big deal out of their conversion to DTP, but I can't remember if MU did. The thought process on that paragraph was from the perspective of our markup-based traditional system. In general, I see the page and…
#13298 Clone Controllers Message #13315
From: Mike Musick/Ass't Sysop Adobe Forum · Tool Box October 5, 1989 1:40 AM
Hmmm. Points to ponder. There are two different PostScripts being discussed here: 1) PostScript, the programming language which has become the advanced-technology standard-bearer of the US graphic arts industry; and 2) PostScript, the product brought to you by Adobe Systems, Inc. PostScript is being discussed and defended primarily from the…
#13310 #Feature Sought Message #13314
From: Jon Hodges Adobe Forum · Adobe Illustrator October 5, 1989 12:45 AM
Carl: There's a group of utilities from Varityper that include one that will scan a pure PostScript file (a file printed to disc) and let you know all the fonts in the file (provided the code-generating application is well-behaved and didn't rename fonts for some reason). The particular utility is…
#13277 #Type 1 Specs Message #13313
From: Jon Hodges Adobe Forum · Talk to the Trade October 5, 1989 12:45 AM
David: Where did you hear that Royal fonts "have provisions for defining size-specific features"? I remember hearing something similar a while back, but when I asked several people, including two of the guys coordinating the digitalization of the URW font library as well as the president of Monotype, everyone said…
#13275 #Clone Controllers Message #13312
From: Jon Hodges Adobe Forum · Tool Box October 5, 1989 12:45 AM
David: By "most PostScript work is performed on the MAC" I meant that most of my shop's PostScript work is performed on the Mac. Thanks for the detailed answer. Do you know off hand if Birmy will be displaying its machines at GraphX in Chicago next week? The owner of…
Scanners w/Trueforms Message #13311
From: Jeffrey Hammer Adobe Forum · TrueForm October 4, 1989 11:45 PM
Can anyone tell me if the driver for the Sharp scanner included with Trueforms will be fixed anytime soon. I called tech support last Friday and was told that "there are some problems with some of the scanner drivers" and that someone would call me back. Hopefully, I can get…
#13309 #Feature Sought Message #13310
From: Carl Steinhilber Adobe Forum · Adobe Illustrator October 4, 1989 11:02 PM
[continued] complex) to make sure we've identified all the pertinent fonts. Especially if one of us has to prepare a file that one of our coworkers worked on some days before. CUT TO THE CHASE: Isn't there a way that Illustrator could scan it's own files and identify the required…
#Feature Sought Message #13309
From: Carl Steinhilber Adobe Forum · Adobe Illustrator October 4, 1989 11:01 PM
Dear Sirs, I have a feature that I would desperately like to see either included in the Illustrator software… or as a seperate utility program. I don't know how prevalant my particular problem is… so I don't quite know if a significant number of customers would benefit… but I do…
#13288 quality type Message #13308
From: Tripp Narup Adobe Forum · Videophile October 4, 1989 10:45 PM
After doing ad work for years, if there's anything "scientific" about the way agencies approach things I must have missed it. My friends who work for agencies are not so kind in their assessment. I have heard of the book you mentioned before and it comes highly recommended.
#13287 #NFNT/Suitcase Message #13307
From: Tripp Narup Adobe Forum · Programming October 4, 1989 10:45 PM
Thanks for the info. I have one client's large collection of fonts on our system so as an experiment I'm going to harmonize and then examine the fonts with VariTyper's utility to see exactly what changes were made. Since 99% of our clients use one of the big four (PM,FH,Illus,Xpress)…
#13269 #Using Type Message #13306
From: Tripp Narup Adobe Forum · Service Bureaus October 4, 1989 10:44 PM
You brought up an excellent point but it can't be done in PM (i.e., change word space for 1 line). I thoughtlessly tried that once at the tail-end of a long document, only to watch it reflow for the next 5 minutes. It's that sort of line-by-line, word-by-word control that…
#13256 NFNT Font Emergency! Message #13305
From: Kathleen Tinkel Adobe Forum · Videophile October 4, 1989 9:39 PM
What application are you using?
#13269 #Using Type Message #13304
From: Kathleen Tinkel Adobe Forum · Service Bureaus October 4, 1989 9:39 PM
Not bad, Mr. Musick. You're probably right about the 'retailers' to 'dealers' change. If I weren't so lazy I'd set it up and try it, but I don't disagree particularly. However, it does seem that any really graceful solution would requre some reworking of the text. This is a tough…
From: Jackie Weissman Adobe Forum · Forum Business October 4, 1989 9:17 PM
Lori, I found the user's manuals for the two typefaces that I have. Futura and Clearface. Thank you for the information about changing the registration. I think my confusion lies in the workings of the program. When I go to the PSFonts program the first thing the screen says is…
From: barry n sher Adobe Forum · Videophile October 4, 1989 8:50 PM
I enjoy dialogue with someone who cares about precision and about esthetics yet is not unhappy about living in the real world…
#13233 #NFNT/Suitcase Message #13301
From: Kathleen Tinkel Adobe Forum · Programming October 4, 1989 7:37 PM
Thank you for a clear explanation of this puzzling phenomenon. Would you mind if I copied it over on the Aldus forum where there has been a discussion of font style/size conflicts? (With header intact, of course.)
From: Kathleen Tinkel Adobe Forum · Videophile October 4, 1989 7:37 PM
Thanks. I wouldn't ask anyone to 'always' agree with me — I don't always agree with myself. And I suppose you're right about coming to an agreement on terms. On the other hand, you can usually arrive at a working definition if you care enough.
#13287 ##NFNT/Suitcase Message #13299
From: Michael Diehl Adobe Forum · Programming October 4, 1989 6:15 PM
I'm curious about this stuff. Can you tell me if, out there somewhere, there is a) a list of NFNT numbers for, say Adobe's family of types, and b) a utility that will allow me to "go into" the font file (suitcase?) and "install" the appropriate font ID #s? (I…
#13292 #Clone Controllers Message #13298
From: David Geller Adobe Forum · Tool Box October 4, 1989 5:01 PM
Mike – interesting reading. Do you work for Adobe (I might have said Apple a year ago). What do you care if some other company trys to compete and build and better product. Why waste time trying to assault a project before you've seen the result. Adobe's just been greedy…
#13283 Clone Controllers Message #13297
From: David Geller Adobe Forum · Tool Box October 4, 1989 5:01 PM
Steve – probably right about PS on the MAC and PC and what proportion of jobs are done on laser versus lino-like. In D.C., though, lots of big clients (gov't) are moving to Ventura. For most book work its hard to beat. DG in DC
#13292 Clone Controllers Message #13296
From: Nathan Dickson Adobe Forum · Tool Box October 4, 1989 4:45 PM
I personally have yet to see ANYTHING on PC's that look anything but clunky (however you wish the term to apply). Yes the work can get done, but it's a pain in the A*S, even if you're expert at MS-DOS, etc. Now the MAC is a different story. Not only…
#13237 Ill. 1.8.3 and SE/30 Message #13295
From: Lori Haines Adobe Forum · Adobe Illustrator October 4, 1989 4:36 PM
Dan – You sent a message to David Madison on October 2nd that read "Lori Haines: Thanks for message – please send some lit." I assume the message is for me, but I am unclear as to the specific literature you would like. Please let me know and I will…
#13264 #Adobe Eurpoe Message #13294
From: Lori Haines Adobe Forum · PostScript October 4, 1989 4:36 PM
Blaise – At this time Adobe's CompuServe accounts in the States are not linked with our European office. It may be that in the future we work together in this respect, however, I don't believe that anything has been put into action. For this reason, I would prefer you not…

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