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#WARP SCSI

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#151576From: Shawn RandolphJun 8, 1994 10:04 PM
Hello all, I just recievedmy new WARP ENGINE 040 and after some time in dry dock our 4000 is now back together again. My problem is I just installed a new Quantum Prodrive 540LPS. The WARP ENGINE SCSI Toolbox recognizes the drive but doesn't report back the correct amount of blocks or cylinders. The result is the 540MB ending up a -94MB drive (fancy that). I did not get any specs with the drive so I am dead there. I did try the WARP's SCSI Setup which just locks the system up when you select initialize disk. The Amiga 3.0 Harddrive toolbox is worthless because it doesn't even recognize the harddrive as being there. I have check ID's but thats OK. My current configuration is as follows : 120 IDE Drive 540 SCSI Drive (at ID #6) 3401B SCSI CD-ROM (at ID #5) Warp Engine SCSI Controller at ID #7 Any ideas, comments, suggestions are welcome. If anyone also has the specs for the drive above they would be appreciated too. Thanks Shawn Silent Paw Productions Still in the shipyard awaiting true Warp Power ("Cap'tn I'm working as fast as I c'an)
#151603From: John GagerJun 9, 1994 12:08 AM
Shawn: I used the Warp Engines SCSITools utility to format and partition a SyQuest cartdridge and didn't have any problems. First, make sure the last device on the SCSI chain is terminated. Any other drives in the middle of the chain should be unterminated. To use 3.0's HDToolBox, make sure the Icon's tooltype has the entry: SCSI_DEVICE_NAME=warpdrive.device Let me know how you do with this, and if it still doesn't work, we will see what else might be happening. // John (Speeding on the Information Superhighway) \X/ Mercury@ins.infonet.net
#151737From: Shawn RandolphJun 9, 1994 8:44 PM
Thanks John, Just got it up and running but what a headache!! Not to mention froma 540MB Quantum thats supposed to be that formatted it really became 515MB after format, big rip off!! Oh well thats SCSI. What I did is just what you said. I put the SCSI_DEVICE_NAME to warpdrive.device and it then could format the drive. BUT I did have to get the drives particulars from QUANTUM. WARNING, DANGER WILL ROBINSON, I have been told by Macrosystems that there are a few Quantums like the 540 which are not recognized by their SCSI controller. The BIOS is sent or read incorrectly and therefore you geta drive with a negative size. Really Wierd…. Oh well I just started getting everything else going. Thanks for the info. Do you know of any way to get a better format out of SCSI drives?? 25MB does seem extreme for a loss. Oh well, The SS PAW now has full WARP Power Cap'tn. Shawn Silent Paw Productions "Let's see what's out there…"
#151744From: John GagerJun 9, 1994 9:11 PM
Great, glad you got it working Shawn! Actually, HDToolBox has the capability to query the drive for the particulars. Once you are in HDToolBox, click on "Change Drive Type", next "Define New", and then a screen should appear that has a button labeled "Read Configuration". It should read the information from the drive. If it also gives you wierd numbers for the cylinder's then I would say Quantum is doing something strange. Make sure you have you have a backup of the drive if you already have important data on it, because clicking on OK from this point will erase it. Many drive manufacturer's will specify the Unformated capacity of the drive to make it sound bigger <g>. // John (Speeding on the Information Superhighway) \X/ Mercury@ins.infonet.net
#151795From: Dale LarsonJun 10, 1994 4:57 AM
25MB is almost exactly what you should loose to the 1000 vs 1024 marketing measurement issue I told you about. — Dale L. Larson, Intangible Assets Manufacturing
#151873From: Shawn RandolphJun 10, 1994 9:52 PM
I have always known the formatting would leave me dissappointed but I keep hoping 🙂 Still no AMIVR yet though 🙁 Thanks Shawn Silent Paw Productions
#151914From: Wayne ColeJun 11, 1994 5:12 AM
Shawn, A good deal of what appears to be loss isn't. It is in the "spare sectors Map". SCSI drives self-test themselves (or can, anyway) and will eithre "slip sectore" or remap using a jump table any sectore detected as bad to one taken from the spares list. So, while you may not have direct access to it, most of the difference is there for your indirect use. And the larger the dirve, the bigger the "loss". BTW, with GVP FaaastPrep A 540 came up first time, no trouble. I think MacroSystems may be blowing a little smoke. Also, if you call Quantum, their tech support is generally pretty good. If you have a ROM problem on the controller they generally replace them for free (that is they will send yuo the ROM to do the replacement for free…). wmc – via Autopilot!
#152556From: Jim SakladJun 15, 1994 10:20 PM
Shawn – > Oh well, The SS PAW now has full WARP Power Cap'tn. If you would, please run DiskSpeed on your Warp Drive Quantum and let us know the numbers. It should be most interesting, and I hope to get a Warp later this year… . . . . JimDoc, on AutoPilot
#151624From: Dale LarsonJun 9, 1994 4:44 AM
One thing to keep in mind… Drive manufacturers call 1,000,000 bytes a megabyte. The rest of us call 1024*1024 bytes a megabyte. "The rest of us" includes AmigaDOS and HDToolBox. Still, if 3.0 HDToolBox and the Warp SCSI Setup lockup or don't recognize the drive, you have a problem. Does 3.0 HDtoolbox recognize your CD-ROM drive? Are you sure you didn't leave a terminator on or off somewhere you shouldn't have? Could you try another drive in place of the 540 as a test? — Dale L. Larson, Intangible Assets Manufacturing
#151738From: Shawn RandolphJun 9, 1994 8:44 PM
Thanks for your reply Dale, Got everything up and running now. Even the CD-ROM 🙂 Full warp power number 1……Engage. Thanks Shawn Silent Paw Productions