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#VERSION 2.0 SUPPORT

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#67492From: PHIL RADELATNov 21, 1993 4:57 AM
Someone's made an offer to sell me their V 2.0 of 3DS, essentially for the price of their upgade, which I feel is a decent price for this version. Will there still be support for earlier versions here (and this version needs all the support it can get!), or is that going to be history here. Thanks.
#67500From: Nov 21, 1993 11:27 AM
Phil: >> Someone's made an offer to sell me their V 2.0 of 3DS, essentially for the >> price of their upgrade, which I feel is a decent price for this version. Decent? That's a fantastic price for a full copy of 3DS 2.0 or 2.01a! However, I couldn't be quite sure exactly what you meant – is your friend upgrading to Release 3 and selling you his old Release 2 when he does? If so, all legalities aside, remember that you don't get a new hardware lock with an upgrade! Only one of them will be usable, so be careful what you are buying! >> Will there still be support for earlier versions here? Most questions from 3D Studio users are generic enough to apply to both versions, although there will be specific features of 3 that have no comparison in release 2. >> (and this version needs all the support it can get!) Again, I'm not sure what you meant by this, but having used it professionally for 1-1/2 years, the only disadvantage of release 2 is that it isn't release 3! The program is stable and feature-rich, there were portions that many users didn't even get a chance to master before release 3 came out! Release 2 will keep someone happy for a while, at least until they can spare the $497 for the upgrade to release 3! Greg Pyros
#67504From: John SchmidtNov 21, 1993 11:47 AM
Phil, Two things; if the person has upgraded their R2 to R3, the license is still in their name; you couldn't do anything "legal" with the old R2. Second, and of more significance, the upgrade to 3 from 2 doesn't come with a new hardware lock; you have to use the one that came with R2, so even if you got the R2 disks and manuals, you can't run it without the hardware lock, which would now be on your friend's R3. There might be an alternative, in that Adesk recently announced that 3DS R2 will be sold at certain educational institutions for $395; get in touch with Autodesk for the number of a local Area Educational Representative for more info. John
#67574From: Don LandisNov 22, 1993 2:19 AM
John, Can the upgrade to release 3 be applied from an "educational $395 copy of release 2"? If so it could be a way to get release 3 for less than $900. I know of dozens of people that would jump on this in this area. How do I get in touch with this area rep? I want to get as many people into 3DS as possible and a <$900 will surely do it. Think of all those mesh file generators needing output service<$G$> to video that I could supply. On second thought, think of all those that will now tout themselves as an animator just because they can now afford to buy 3DS. UGH!
#67631From: John SchmidtNov 22, 1993 10:14 AM
Don, I doubt the educational R2 is upgradable, but I'm not sure exactly how they deal with it. Try calling 1-800-964-6432 for the number of a local Area Educational Rep. John
#67642From: Joe MacRaeNov 22, 1993 11:19 AM
Don, Educational versions are NOT upgradeable.
#68013From: Don LandisNov 23, 1993 11:37 PM
Thanks for the definite answer. I kind of thought so.
#67505From: Yost GroupNov 21, 1993 12:02 PM
If they're using their old copy of R2 to upgrade to R3, and then selling you their R2 copy, it's illegal. In addition, they will not receive a hardware lock with the upgrade, so they'll have to give you a "broken" copy of R2 which, believe me, will give you mucho subtle problems. If, on the other hand, they have a legit copy of R2 for sale, you should make sure that that includes everything required for an upgrade of your own, or you're stuck with an orphan. As far as support, R2 doesn't need appreciably more support than R3. You should be able to get support online here, but you'll almost certainly be wanting to "upgrade" in short time.
#67583From: PHIL RADELATNov 22, 1993 3:08 AM
Someone here has mentioned getting version 2 thru an education channel for $395. What are the specifics of this?
#67635From: John SchmidtNov 22, 1993 10:48 AM
Phil, Below is message #65765 posted on Nov. 9th by Wayne Hodgins [ADESK] 72137,1460: >> Quentin, you will be pleased to know that we have recently announced a new deal for students and faculty wishing to purchase Autodesk 3D Studio R2. The price is $395. Contact your Area Education Rep (AER) for more details and pricing. wayne << This is all the info I have on it. Try calling 1-800-964-6432 for the number of a local Area Education Rep. John
#67637From: Yost GroupNov 22, 1993 11:12 AM
We don't really deal with the distribution side of 3ds, but it looks like John has the answer for you. – J
#68095From: MARCO H. KYAWNov 24, 1993 11:01 AM
Hi, You may not know me but I have a question for you sound like very informamational in this topic. I'm trying to render images and Flics in 3DS2 and I want to render to 640×480 mode but the software I'm using obviously doesn't support this mode. The question is that if there is a driver for 640×480 mode, do you know where I can get it? Appreciate your answer to my question. I'll be expecting to hear from you soon.
#68255From: ALAN IGLESIASNov 25, 1993 2:10 AM
You can use r2 to render almost *any* resolution images (and flics) you wish, Marco. If your particular configuration does not support the higher resolutions, just be sure to use the NULL driver when rendering. This renders the files to *disk*, instead of to a particular card or frame buffer.
#68273From: John TissavaryNov 25, 1993 3:04 AM
What software are you talking about? 3DS r2 can render to any resolution. Are you talking about display card drivers? What kind of graphics card are you using? Have you tried the supplied VESA driver? Vibrant Graphics makes drivers called PRORES/3D that support many cards and are the best I used for 3DS r2. John Tissavary (La Luna cie)
#68302From: Yost GroupNov 25, 1993 1:37 PM
You've already received to correct answers to your question. It's not the software, but the hardware (along with software drivers) that determines the limits of your display resolution. Nevertheless, you can render to any resolution in 3ds, as long as you use a NULL driver (in R2), or turn on the No Display button in R3. If you need a different driver for your display board, and are using R2, I recommend you contact Vibrant Graphics at 800/937-1711. If you're using R3, you should look for your display board in the Vibrant configuration menu when you first start 3ds.