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#7632 LW screen fonts Message #7651
From: Geoffrey Brandt Adobe · Printers/Hardware January 5, 1989 12:56 AM
I apparantly have Apples'. How do I go about getting Adobe's screen fonts for the basic Laserwriter set? thanks, -gb
LC890 Utility Message #7649
From: larry buckmaster Adobe · Printers/Hardware January 4, 1989 11:31 PM
David, I've uploaded LC890.ARC to this forum. It'll take a couple of days I think, the sysop has to take a look at it first. Now if we can only get a utility to switch some of the other things…. like which bin the printer should use.
#7606 lc890 + envelopes Message #7648
From: Myron Havis Adobe · Printers/Hardware January 4, 1989 10:45 PM
Bill, If you're using MSWORD there are two great Postscript drivers available inthe MSAPP Forum. PSPPRD.ARC & PSLPRD.ARC. These allow bin switching via software and have 20 different font size selections. I agree with you about the courtesy of the NEC tech support people. Unfortunately, they don't seem to get…
#7618 lc890 + envelopes Message #7647
From: richard taylor Adobe · Printers/Hardware January 4, 1989 10:27 PM
Yes, PageMaker comes with about a dozen printer drivers. When Silentwriter is selected I can choose bin 2.
#7612 nec LC890 w/ Mac Message #7644
From: Steve Werner Adobe · Printers/Hardware January 4, 1989 9:36 PM
Bill, I beg to disagree with you about whose responsibility it is to support how to use printer-specific functions. If you're having problems with how to change paper trays, it's your PRINTER MANUFACTURER'S responsibility to provide either software or panel controls to make such changes. It can't be Adobe's. There…
#7517- #LW screen fonts Message #7632
From: Lori Haines Adobe · Printers/Hardware January 4, 1989 6:01 PM
Geoffrey, I would have to assume you have Apple's versions of these screen fonts, especially if they came with your IINT. You can tell for sure by checking to see if you have the style variations of the various fonts, for example o you have Palatino Bold, Italic and Bold…
#7557- Varityper Message #7622
From: Lori Haines Adobe · Printers/Hardware January 4, 1989 5:59 PM
Jon, Not to jump in on this, but in your example of incomplete font families you cited the absence of ITC Garamond Light and ITC Clearface Black– both faces are currently available from Adobe. Anyhow, I have forwarded your suggestion, that we add more weights to existing font families, to…
#7608 Experimental Surgery Message #7620
From: Kerry Hauptli Adobe · Printers/Hardware January 4, 1989 5:46 PM
John – Thanks for the very interesting notes on DEC toner, particularly the "first aid" section! I have been told (by NEC) that the NEC toner particle size is so small that it will fly right through a vacuum cleaner bag. They use a special vacuum cleaner to clean NEC-800…
#7609 #lc890 + envelopes Message #7618
From: Bill Weylock Adobe · Printers/Hardware January 4, 1989 2:03 PM
Didn't know anyone made a Silentwriter driver, but that sure is a point in favor of PM! Wish Word and some of the other vendors would do the same. ……..Best, – Bill W.
#7518- A new LC890 . . . Message #7615
From: Donald N. David Adobe · Printers/Hardware January 4, 1989 11:33 AM
Please upload that utility since it would be *very* useful.
#7602 NEC890Envelopes Message #7613
From: Bill Weylock Adobe · Printers/Hardware January 4, 1989 9:58 AM
Somebody left me a note about Hammermill Paper. You can bet your bippie it wasn't a sysop or anybody from Adobe. They're busy chewing gum and counting their money. ……..Best, – Bill W.
#7600 #nec LC890 w/ Mac Message #7612
From: Bill Weylock Adobe · Printers/Hardware January 4, 1989 9:57 AM
Jon – Thanks for the notes, but more depth is exactly what I'm not interested in. Nobody in this navel-sniffing industry seems to understand that they have sold these things to people who want to make them work well and efficiently at a few simple basic repetitive tasks. I want…
#7600 nec LC890 w/ Mac Message #7610
From: richard taylor Adobe · Printers/Hardware January 4, 1989 9:33 AM
Would you consider uploading the LC890 command files you wrote? (Mac versions)
#7606 #lc890 + envelopes Message #7609
From: richard taylor Adobe · Printers/Hardware January 4, 1989 9:33 AM
Oh. I thoguht you meant the on screen control panel you get before printing. I have been able to use the binselect with Page Maker. PM has its own Silentwriter driver. Legal size, bin 2 work fine in Page Maker.
#7438- #Experimental Surgery Message #7608
From: john stanley Adobe · Printers/Hardware January 4, 1989 9:32 AM
From the material safety data sheet packed with each DEC LN03 toner kit: Ingredients percentage Ferrosoferric oxide 55 Styrene acrylic resin 45 "The primary toxicity of this material would be expected to be associated with the nuisance dust characteristics of the chemical mixture. Neither of the two chemical components of…
#7597 #lc890 + envelopes Message #7606
From: Bill Weylock Adobe · Printers/Hardware January 4, 1989 8:18 AM
Richard – I just don't know. I"m not good at using PostScript with the printer. I hope you figure it out. Seems to me some people were saying the new firmware doesn't respond to the binselect instructions. I just use the front panel buttons and curse mildly each time. I'm…
#7596 lc890 + envelopes Message #7605
From: Bill Weylock Adobe · Printers/Hardware January 4, 1989 8:18 AM
Yeah – I like the product and the NEC people on the phone are okay, but the manual and the extended warranty setup are not to my liking. The new improved manual is only marginally better, and it's still written as if only PostScript programmers were going to buy the…
#7395- #NEC890Envelopes Message #7602
From: richard taylor Adobe · Printers/Hardware January 4, 1989 12:09 AM
"perfect source. Thanks a million". Do you remember what you were responding to. Was it a source for envelopes. I have tried the Pro-Tech Laser Envelopes with my Nec LC890 but they wrinkle quite a bit.
#7582 #nec LC890 w/ Mac Message #7600
From: Jon Hodges Adobe · Printers/Hardware January 3, 1989 11:41 PM
Bill: I usually send my commands to the 890 in a separate file before I run another job, but they can be embedded into the Postscript code of any existing job. I have stripped in hopper and paper size commands in Adobe Illustrator files and also changed device-specific parameters, but…
#7581 #lc890 + envelopes Message #7597
From: richard taylor Adobe · Printers/Hardware January 3, 1989 9:04 PM
I was using the Nec LC890 on my IBM but I have it hooked up to my new Mac now. I had problems getting it installed when I first hooked it up. I have it hooked up through AppleTalk. Hypercard would not print anything no matter what I chose in…
#7543- #lc890 + envelopes Message #7596
From: Myron Havis Adobe · Printers/Hardware January 3, 1989 7:32 PM
>>Feed on the left Bill, Guess it was just a problem of which left – from behind the printer or from in front. Finally got it worked out and figured out where the manual feed slot is. Thanks for your help. NEC has a long way to go in their…
#7545- Sign Maker Message #7586
From: David Geller Adobe · Printers/Hardware January 3, 1989 2:06 PM
Colossal Graphics, Inc. Mountain View, CA (415) 967-3656 PostScript language interpreter and hardware to drive 36×42" devices at 200 dpi. $6995. Uses the WEITEK Hyperscript processor as implemented in a board by RIPS of Boulder, CO.
#7578 nec LC890 w/ Mac Message #7582
From: Bill Weylock Adobe · Printers/Hardware January 3, 1989 8:45 AM
Jon – This works on a Mac? Where do you put the message in an MSW letter? IN the header? IN the body? Does it matter if it's the first item in the file? ……..Best, – Bill W.
#7580 lc890 + envelopes Message #7581
From: Bill Weylock Adobe · Printers/Hardware January 3, 1989 8:01 AM
Richard – You're still ubable to get manual feeding out of the Mac? That's odd. Tell me what you're doing. If you're trying to do it through embedded commands, I still haven't figured that out, but I do it using the control panel very neatly. ……..Best, – Bill W.
#7569 #lc890 + envelopes Message #7580
From: richard taylor Adobe · Printers/Hardware January 2, 1989 11:16 PM
Yes, you are right. That does make it easier. I am using a Mac now (used to be IBM) and I can't get manual feed to work at all with the Mac.
#7563 #nec LC890 w/ Mac Message #7578
From: Jon Hodges Adobe · Printers/Hardware January 2, 1989 10:45 PM
Richard: I've used the following code to switch my NEC 890 with good results: statusdict begin 2 setpapertray legaltray (or lettertray, depending on paper size) end I just send it using PostHaste or PS-Send and I haven't had a problem. To switch back, just change the 2 to a 1.…
Linotype For Sale Message #7576
From: Mark Adobe · Printers/Hardware January 2, 1989 9:45 PM
Linotype Linotronic 100, PostScript RIP with 50 Adobe Fonts, Film Processor and high capacity paper cassettes. Perfect Condition. $22,000. Call Colophon Inc. 415-775-8899
#7564 lc890 + envelopes Message #7569
From: Bill Weylock Adobe · Printers/Hardware January 2, 1989 5:55 PM
It's easier if you pull the whole second sheet feeder assembly forward. ……..Best, – Bill W.
#7550- #lc890 + envelopes Message #7564
From: richard taylor Adobe · Printers/Hardware January 1, 1989 11:25 PM
Pull the little door at the front of the second bin down(as if to load paper). Now look at where the printer would feed the paper from that bin. That's the manual feed slot. You can stand a piece of paper in that slot (behind the rubber rollers, in front…
nec LC890 w/ Mac Message #7563
From: richard taylor Adobe · Printers/Hardware January 1, 1989 10:48 PM
I have recently switched to a Mac and I have hooked up my LC890 wuth very nice results. However, I can't seem to get the second bin choice. Is there some third party LC890 driver that I need. I have patched LaserPrep with the smoothie program from MacPro Forum.
#7557- Varityper Message #7561
From: Stephen H. Owades Adobe · Printers/Hardware January 1, 1989 7:20 PM
Amen to the desire for complete font families! Let's hope that Adobe and Linotype are listening. It's entirely too easy to sell numbers of type faces, but for PostScript to become the universal standard for typesetting that it can be, complete font families–including, in some cases, proper masters for various…
#7521 Varityper Message #7529
From: Syndesis Adobe · Printers/Hardware December 30, 1988 1:00 PM
I read that passage in the bookstore already. 🙂 The way I've heard it, the Adobe hints are decisions to ignore certain strokes at small sizes. Obviously, there has to be some feedback between the character and the ratio of the proposed charactsize to stroke, and the density of the…
#7521 Varityper Message #7528
From: Stephen H. Owades Adobe · Printers/Hardware December 30, 1988 11:36 AM
At last September's Seybold Seminar, John Warnock of Adobe pointed out that a good font scaling algorithm could be written in PostScript and used by non-Adobe fonts. In fact, he said that Adobe's algorithm was originally created and tested in PostScript code; it was implemented at a lower level in…
#7519 Sign Maker Message #7526
From: David Geller Adobe · Printers/Hardware December 30, 1988 9:40 AM
On a PC – you can use AUTOCAD and drive a laser, water-pressure, or razor cutting device. The fonts are poor, but there are many AUTOCAD sites producing *plot* files used by cutting equipment. Contact Autodesk for more information. For PostScript-like stuff, Collosal Graphics of California has a RIPS based…
#7513 #Varityper Message #7521
From: Steve Werner Adobe · Printers/Hardware December 29, 1988 11:19 PM
I thought you might be interested in this quote from an excellent new book, Real World PostScript, just out, regarding Adobe's "hints". (Edited by Stephen F. Roth, Addison Wesley, 1988). It's from an essay, "Building Smart Fonts" by Michael Mace (founder of Century Software). "So how does Adobe do it?…
#7507 #Sign Maker Message #7519
From: Andy Weed Adobe · Printers/Hardware December 29, 1988 10:19 PM
Aye, that would be the "Sign Maker." They make several models and they are FAST! They cost a pretty penny too. I know they specialize in CAD/CAM equipment, so the sign maker makes good use of that technology. Gerber has 200 – 300 fonts that cost about $275 each. They…
#7456 #Varityper Message #7513
From: Syndesis Adobe · Printers/Hardware December 29, 1988 7:53 PM
So who are the three working on this? 😉 You can tell me in Easyplex if you like. From what I've heard, the hints are built by hand. That makes the process inherently labor-intensive, to say the least, and therefore any Adobe competitor needs to put in at least as…
#7499 Varityper Message #7509
From: Stephen H. Owades Adobe · Printers/Hardware December 29, 1988 5:36 PM
I've been connected with the typesetting industry for years. Typesetting shops using Compugraphic, Varityper, or other non-Linotype equipment have had to struggle in the market against the understandable desire of their customers to have "true" fonts–which in almost all cases means Linotype faces with Linotype tradenames. My clients with CG…
#7493 #Sign Maker Message #7507
From: Stephen H. Owades Adobe · Printers/Hardware December 29, 1988 5:36 PM
PostScript is strongly oriented toward raster output devices (laser printers, laser typesetters, CRT displays, etc.) rather than vector devices like the Sign Maker you describe. It would take a very substantial programming effort to adapt even a limited subset of PostScript to such a device–though it would certainly be nice.…
#7495 #Varityper Message #7499
From: David Geller Adobe · Printers/Hardware December 29, 1988 10:01 AM
One more time…and I don't think our *public* debate is a fight. If anything, I think it lends itself to being recorded for posterity. The facts we are both bringing to the forum are, in themselves, valuable. About fonts – I know how significant the Adobe fonts are. But I…
#7476 #Varityper Message #7495
From: Jon Hodges Adobe · Printers/Hardware December 29, 1988 12:42 AM
Listen, I don't want to get into a big fight about this, but how can you say Adobe isn't the industry standard for fonts in DTP? Name me a service bureau that carries CG and Bitstream fonts that doesn't carry Adobe. Since Adobe cut the deal where Linotype is now…
#Sign Maker Message #7493
From: Andy Weed Adobe · Printers/Hardware December 28, 1988 11:25 PM
Can anyone tell me if there are PostScript Plotter/Cutters made for the sign making industry. I know of a dedacated machine called "Sign Maker" ($10K – $20K) from Gerber Scientific that cuts letters out of 3M vinal. The machine is fast but does not allow for use of a gereral…
From: David Geller Adobe · Printers/Hardware December 28, 1988 3:44 PM
Could someone familiar with HP emulation under version 47.x detail the known limitations of the emulation and, perhaps, how the emulation was implemented. I am having problems with it printing from Ventura Publisher (all versions). Yes, of course I know XVP does PS…I have an application, though, that requires HP…
#7472 Varityper Message #7476
From: David Geller Adobe · Printers/Hardware December 28, 1988 12:23 PM
>Nicely put defense of Adobe. I think you're right on. With the pricing I've >seen on the new CG Postscript machines (which are using an Adobe-sanctioned >RIP) I think Birmy is in serious trouble. Why purchase a Birmysetter that >can't run the Adobe fonts (which whether David likes it or…
#7457 #Varityper Message #7472
From: Jon Hodges Adobe · Printers/Hardware December 27, 1988 11:54 PM
Nicely put defense of Adobe. I think you're right on. With the pricing I've seen on the new CG Postscript machines (which are using an Adobe-sanctioned RIP) I think Birmy is in serious trouble. Why purchase a Birmysetter that can't run the Adobe fonts (which whether David likes it or…
#7456 #Varityper Message #7457
From: Stephen H. Owades Adobe · Printers/Hardware December 26, 1988 7:05 PM
I don't disagree with your observations about Adobe versus clone fonts. There are large non-Adobe font libraries available (and Adobe machines can use them, while non-Adobe machines can't use Adobe fonts), and I respect the craftsmanship that Bitstream, URW/The Company, and Compugraphic have applied to creating these fonts. But it…
#7440- #Varityper Message #7456
From: David Geller Adobe · Printers/Hardware December 26, 1988 2:48 PM
Stephen…you know, rumor has it that the Adobe hinting algorithm has or shortly will be broken. There are three people working on throughout the country – probably more, but three known to be good and likely to break it. I think that not being able to use Adobe font is…
#7348- #NEC890Envelopes Message #7375
From: David Geller Adobe · Printers/Hardware December 21, 1988 9:19 AM
The corona wire (not associated with a fine Mexican beer) is situated underneath a strand of guide wire that straddles a rectangular channel in a diagonal manner. Open up your printer, remove and store the OPC, and look straight down into the bowels of the device. You'll see the diagonal…
#6793- OMS PS-810 Message #6895
From: David Buell Adobe · Printers/Hardware November 26, 1988 8:03 PM
The QMS 810 is mechanically equivalent to a LaserWriter NT. The RIP, for all prectical purposes) has equivalent performance. Buy a NT if you are in an Apple only environment (street price $3500-$4000), 810 for mixed DOS-Mac environment (it easily mimics HP's, etc. Street price $4300-$4800). For bargins, nothing can…
#6809- LC890 Legal-size Message #6853
From: Roger Abbott Adobe · Printers/Hardware November 23, 1988 10:44 PM
Jay, thanks… it confirms that under Rev 47.2, the LC890 is not responding to the software command to create a legal-length image when the printer's control panel is set to letter-length. Under 47.1, the letter-length setting could be over-ridden by software, which was much more convenient (especially when the printer…

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