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This is an archive of CompuServe forum messages from 1985 to 1995, as saved in transcripts by John Foust.

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John, "Sounds like some of the non-disclosures I've signed, which make it seem like you can't even tell yourself what you're doing. :-)" That's funny! David
John, The recently released PowerPC models would be top of the line, though until the software you need runs in native mode you'd probably be taking a performance hit. A Quadra 800 is probably the faster 68k machine available. David
#164054 CodeWarrior Message #164182
From: Dan Podwall Mac Developers Forum · Dev. Environments March 16, 1994 7:43 AM
>Is there a Metrowerks forum (similar to Symantec's forum) on CompuServe? No, not on CompuServe. There is one on America Online, but who would want to use that :). Dan Podwall Metrowerks, Inc.
#164080 Programming Magazine Message #164165
Jody, I would agree that this is a good approach. Thanks, Neil Ticktin Editor-in-Chief MacTech Magazine (formerly MacTutor)
David, >> How much would it cost to get an equivalent Macintosh setup? At least as much, or more? Try less — the factually correct answer.
David, >>I believe most Mac develops better start learning how to program Windows. Your defensive stance makes you sound like an Intel commercial trying to battle Power Macintosh — a clearly superior machine. I've heard several Windows users planning to make the switch to Power Macintosh simply because Intel is…
David, >> Please, enlighten us with the "things you've been hearing" with regards to Windows "gotchas". I am not able to give you specifics. What I can tell you is that the Windows API is counter intuitive ENOUGH that experienced programmers read through documentation, run into a problem and then…
From: Manuel Veloso Mac Developers Forum · Dev. Environments March 15, 1994 10:55 PM
David, < Well, I've not yet written any ASLM/CFM-based code. However, it seems highly possible that the APIs between ALSM/CMF-based code could mimic that of DLLs, thereby producing the highest yield of coding time invested. > Actually, the aslm is really a subset of the CFM, and you'll have to…
From: Mark DeNyse Mac Developers Forum · Dev. Environments March 15, 1994 10:54 PM
Howard, I agree completely. I was just trying to have a little fun. Oh well. 🙂 > Mark
From: Mark DeNyse Mac Developers Forum · Dev. Environments March 15, 1994 10:54 PM
Steve, True enough. I was _attempting_ to have a bit of fun. Oh well. Actually though, Quickeys recording window kind of falls into the category of a window that stays open at all times while recording, even across layer switches. > Mark
From: David Parker Mac Developers Forum · Dev. Environments March 15, 1994 10:17 PM
"You really are new to Mac development, aren't you?" Afraid so. I purchased a Mac IIcx when the ink was still wet on the documentation. I used Macs, but didn't do any programming. I've been on the Intel side with … Windoze. I miss Macs. I hope CompUSA has good…
Zinc x-platform? Message #164128
From: Burt Johnson Mac Developers Forum · Dev. Environments March 15, 1994 9:54 PM
Has anyone here used the Zinc platform? I saw a demo at the Software Development conference in San Jose and was rather impressed with it. I was also surprised that I had not heard of it before though. They have portable versions for Mac, Windows, NT, DOS, Unix, etc, and…
>>Is there an expected release date for the PowerPC and its System 7?
From: Mark DeNyse Mac Developers Forum · Dev. Environments March 15, 1994 8:26 PM
David, We develop an application for both Mac and Windows at my company. On the Mac, I use TCL, and the Windows dudes use MFC. It usually takes 1.3 times longer to implement the same features than I do. A lot of it has to do with TCL being more…
From: Ned Fisher Mac Developers Forum · Dev. Environments March 15, 1994 5:09 PM
3/15/94, 18:23 Subject: Ups software for: a) AppleShare 4.0 on System 7.1 b) AppleShare Pro running alongside A/UX Technical Support: Sutton Designs, Inc. manufactures a line of upses and currently sells them on a number of large government contracts including the Comprehensive Health Care System, which is a 1.1 billion…
#163685 Perl like? Message #164097
From: Don Turnbull Mac Developers Forum · Dev. Environments March 15, 1994 4:38 PM
Actually I'm trying to go from Microsoft Visual C++ (with very little ++ in the code) to ANSI C and then I'll move it to the Mac and put in Think C. (or maybe MPW). Any suggestions? Don
..or if you ever found out what you were doing, you'd have to shoot yourself . Howard.
David, You make the tacit assumption that this model for the human interface is better. Do you have any objective evidence to support this? Because I can cite papers in which the Apple model has been validated. Please do not misunderstand me – I am not defending this model because…
Mark, Steve has already answered most of your question. I would add that many HI folk reserve judgement on floating windows. They are fine if you happen to have a large monitor and lots of screen estate in which you can place them, or (if you have a Mac )…
David, Not only do I know why people do not have multiple monitors with Windows (because it does not support them in the way that the Mac does – I have 2 Mac monitors, and know plenty of Mac folk who find very good use for them), but I also…
David, I remember when UK DTS (sadly now deceased) were exhorting me to write conditional code (preferably conditional at run-time, although they would accept conditional compilation as a compromise!) for AppleEvent stuff to ensure that my apps would not only be fully factored, but also have versions which would run…
#163996 #Programming Magazine Message #164080
From: Jody Threet Mac Developers Forum · Dev. Environments March 15, 1994 3:05 PM
I suspect I'll get both. Too much information hasn't hurt me YET… In case you missed my earlier message to Al; the CopyBits problem was an odd number of rowBytes in my bitmap. thanks, Jody
What a good idea ! Considering whay Constructor is *at the time being*, AppMaker was really missing *** jean-pierre ***
#CodeWarrior Message #164054
From: Jim Kingsepp Mac Developers Forum · Dev. Environments March 15, 1994 11:25 AM
Dan: Is there a Metrowerks forum (similar to Symantec's forum) on CompuServe? Jim Kingsepp Moody's Investors Service
David, I hate to give ammunition to the enemy , but why don't you use my favorite example — Print Preview? On the project I'm doing now, the 1st cut at the user interface was done by the Windows guy — then we hashed it out. He automatically included Print…
From: Syndesis Mac Developers Forum · Dev. Environments March 15, 1994 10:11 AM
Sounds like some of the non-disclosures I've signed, which make it seem like you can't even tell yourself what you're doing. 🙂
From: Syndesis Mac Developers Forum · Dev. Environments March 15, 1994 10:10 AM
I'm not about to try to compare the '040 with the 486/66. So much depends on other factors. Right now, I run a Mac IIci with 20M RAM, 1.4 gig hard disk, 24-bit video, networking, CD, scanner. And the current Mac product line boggles my mind, I don't know which…
From: CECC Mac Developers Forum · Dev. Environments March 15, 1994 8:08 AM
I am using CIM… –Jim Meyers
Steve, "So which one takes more code to zoom to more than one screen?" What's your point? I know of no one who has multiple monitors under Windows (though, I hear, it is possible). Zooming is therefore a freebe, though Windows could benefit from the Macintosh "zoom only as much…
Reede, "At least it's changing. Seems like most folks were waiting for AS to begin being widely used." Good point. I still think there will be a way to make the Microsoft Visual C++ 2.0 cross platform solution work to include platform-specific features. I think it is a wonderful opportunity…
Mehboob, "Since you insist on being so critical of Apple, I'd like to remind you of Microsoft's fabled "TrueImage". I have two clients with TrueImage printers, both are now sitting in a corner on the floor. Apple is not infallible, and Microsoft stumbles just as often." I don't like or…
Help – PC/MAC coding Message #164020
From: Dirk Webster Mac Developers Forum · Dev. Environments March 15, 1994 5:28 AM
Desparately seeking someone who has 'been there, seen it, done it' ! I am planning an application which will need to run on both the PC and Mac. The project is a fairly simple database program with some modem comms. I have several years experience on the PC programming in…
Mark: >>> Have you ever used Hypercard, SuperPaint, Excel, Lotus 1-2-3, MS Word, or many others that use this funny thing called a floating window?
David: >>> Tell you what. You sit down at your Macintosh and write the code to handle a single closeable, resizeable, zoomable window on the Macintosh all with a standard Apple menu and a minimal File menu. Then I'll sit down at my PC and do the same thing in…
Apple is most definitely migrating to the PowerPC. You can go buy one today, if any are left. (My company got ahold of one at a MicroCenter Monday afternoon; supposedly the last of its configuration in the store: model 7100 8/250). You could still get a 68040 Quadra and then…
—> I believe most Mac develops better start learning how to program Windows. Seriously, I tend to agree with you. It's become clear that most apps which have significant market appeal are going to end up on both platforms. At the very least, good developers on both sides of the…
David, —> I believe the latest PC Magazine rated MSVC number one in PC development environments. Do you agree? How do you compare it to what's available on the Macintosh now (or even what will be soon (i.e., CodeWarrior and SC++ 7).
—> Heck, from what I've seen _most_ Mac applications don't support more than the standard suite, if even _that_!
#Programming Magazine Message #163996
From: Joe Sewell Mac Developers Forum · Dev. Environments March 14, 1994 11:59 PM
Just in case you want a recommendation from someone other than the editor , I think MacTech is what you're looking for. Apple has their own quarterly magazine, develop, but it really gets into heavy duty stuff. Joe
From: Mehboob Alam Mac Developers Forum · Dev. Environments March 14, 1994 11:49 PM
>> Interesting, yet _another_ change by Apple. I'm now glad I didn't waste my time learning the ASLM! Since you insist on being so critical of Apple, I'd like to remind you of Microsoft's fabled "TrueImage". I have two clients with TrueImage printers, both are now sitting in a corner…
From: Mehboob Alam Mac Developers Forum · Dev. Environments March 14, 1994 11:42 PM
>> rather than 'anything which you could ever want to do with windows' David, I cannot elaborate on the "gotchas", since I wasn't doing the programming… in relation to the above comments (which came from someone else), I remember a former room-mate bragging about how MS-Write had the ability to…
From: Mark DeNyse Mac Developers Forum · Dev. Environments March 14, 1994 11:02 PM
Howard, Have you ever used Hypercard, SuperPaint, Excel, Lotus 1-2-3, MS Word, or many others that use this funny thing called a floating window? Sorry, couldn't resist. 🙂 > Mark
Neil, "My point isn't that you don't have a good quality system for a nominal amt of money. My point is that your quality system isn't anywhere what you'll need for Wingz. You'll need to spend roughly double what you spent a year ago and that will only bring you…
Neil, "It all comes down to whether you, as a developer, develop commodities or software that is a cut above the rest. If it relies on technologies like AOCE, QuickDraw GX, AppleScript, or whatever in order to make it stand out, then by making the cross platform jump, you're screwed."…
Nick, "Apple is going to be getting rid of the Shared Library Manager in favor of SOM (an object manager) from IBM. OpenDoc will make this move in one of its next prerelease versions." Interesting, yet _another_ change by Apple. I'm now glad I didn't waste my time learning the…
Howard, "With respect, you cannot add AppleEvent capabilities with conditional code, nor will you be able to for the likes of QuickDraw GX and OpenDoc. Apps are either designed properly for them, or they are not – e.g. full factoring for AppleEvents." I disagree. It won't be easy, but it…
John, "What's the name of the company that you did the Corel contracting with?" Can't say, or at least I don't feel comfortable with the question. It may not (i.e., probably does not) matter, but it might. David
Reede, "Where do you think MSVC 2 will have it's greatest value: commercial apps or corporate apps (Fortune 1000)?" Initially with corporate apps (Fortune 1000). Commercial applications are too competitive to leave off platform-specific features. However, once this problem is solved commercial apps will use it too. David
Jim, What software are you using? CompuServe Information Manager or Navigator, or terminal emulation? David
John, "I put together my "powerhouse PC" for, hmm, about $4,000, but that's a 19" monitor, 3401 CDROM, 1.2 gig disk, 16 megs, and a 486/66, high-end SCSI, networking, and a pricey video card. A thousand here, a thousand there, pretty soon you're talking real money. :-)" How much would…

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