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Try SAG Electronics and get an 8500 or 8505 for $2,130. 8500c for $2,275 and
the 2.5gb models for $1,400. If find a good source for HDs. We have bought from
them one Seagate 1.5Gb and two 340MB. Nice prices!
It could be great that the people in the forum start to watch mail order houses
for great deals on HD, memory and other Computer equipment. i.e.I have seen
some Mail Order stores selling Targa+ 64 for $1,300 and I like the store, the
service, etc…— and then other one jumps with a lower price in other place,
etc… Then someone (me? 🙂 could keep a record of all the entries and select
two or three of the best ones in each category. It should be updated in the
libraries each month, or probably with each new group of entries. It could be
easy, you are reading a magazine a just look at the ads. then take phone
number, company name and product and post it here.
We can start a new thread to do it (we can add software too)
Let's get it started: anyone knows about a good source of memories at low
prices? (I mean SIMM cheaps non Martin Foster's Bed Memories <g>)
ana /krazy images
Ana – That's a good price for the 8505. I like the idea however of keeping a
list, just so one knows what things are going for. I don't know how anyone call
sell a 64+ for $1300, that's pretty wild. "Come and get 'em while they're
hot!", just kidding.
I'm in the same boat on RAM chips. The best prices I've found are local and
they're not very exciting what with the cost of chips going up. One store here
which is kinda wholesale was trying to tell me he was selling 4×9's for $175, I
told him to stop joking, that that wasn't funny. He was serious. I told him he
was crazy! He just smiled. I called a new place today and they said $142. And I
know a wholesale house which can do better. Who knows, its like the stock
market. <g>
-JE
Regarding RAM and its pricing: I sort of dabble in hardware/software
reselling. (Dabble = 5 – 10 systems per year by word of mouth alone).
It certainly fluctuates like the stock market and other commodities, and volume
purchasing makes a HUGE difference. Within the past week, my wholesaler was
selling small quantities at about $38 per meg. I'm sure that a motivated buyer
can do MUCH better than that through "Computer Shopper" or the reseller rags.
John:
FYI Micron sell RAM for 40$ a meg any way you want it 16×9 simm 640$ and 4×9
simm 160$ I don't know but some places sell the larger meg modules for more
money. I don' t think you can do much better then 140$.
Thanks for the comparison Richard. Interestingly enough, may places here charge
a little more for 1 meg simms than for 4 meg simms etc. As of this week – 1 meg
70's were listed at $34.40, $35.50, and $35.25, with 4 meg 70's at $129, $129,
and $140. These are local that claim "wholesale" but which anyone can walk
into.
The 16x9s aren't rated that way but rather as 4x36s and are priced at $560.
San Diego is extremely competitive in the PC market. I can usually get most
peripherals etc. less expensively locally than through a mail order house. And
many of these companies do business out of state as well. FWIW
-JE
Ana:
I think that's a great idea! You could keep track of every place in the
country that just competes on price, and have them all fight against each other
to give the lowest mail order deals!
And think of all the free time that dealers like Kevin Krell, Evan Yares, Chuck
Mies, James Murphy, Dave Menneno, Ang Guarino, and myself would have since it
would definitely be in our best interests to stay off the forum!
Greg Pyros
I can't see the way this could threat your business. Let's see, Greg.
I really thought that you and the other dealers here were moving in a
different market. A market of BetaSPs, PARs, MAXes, Indigos and
Laserdiscs. I can't see how a list of best HD prices, memory prices
and computer prices could harm your sells. Besides, I think that we
are living in a free market. This is something that the US has been
proud of for decades, or not?
We are consumers and professionals that don't have the money to move
in your level. You know that I appreciate you, but I just see my idea
as a way to cut the time consuming product huntings (technically
called "transaction cost") not your sales. I know that here we have a
lot of dealers giving service to, not only their clients, but to the
whole 3ds world. You know that I have bought you software, but it's
stupid to think that if you or any other want to sell me a Targa+ for
$400 more that the market price, I won't buy it. I think that this is
a clear position, and I think that you understand what I'm saying.
Moreover, I won't come to you for help for a thing that you haven't
sell me. And if I do it, I will try to find a way to benefit you, the
same way I will benefit myself. I NEVER ask for anything for free,
the same way I NEVER give anything for free. Sooner or later I will
pay you and you will pay me.
I really hope that you can see my point on this.
ana /krazy images
PMJI,
I'm probably gonna regret this but…
I think it's a matter of "protocol". Etiquette has been in the past that one
doesn't speak of any prices other than suggested retail on the forum.
Deals and special pricing usually occur on E-Mail. But out of
courtesy to many of the various deals going on at any given time
between many dealers and end users we've all recognized that this
isn't the "Shopping Channel" also the primary purpose..of the
forum..at least in my personal opinion, has been for support and
shared Software knowledge..you know….Tips and Tricks Etc! Murph'
Good point Murph, and one I hadn't considered, if that is the
"etiquette" then it makes sense. Although I appreciate what Ana is
trying to do as well, which obviously creates a dilemma. But maybe
the way to get around it is to let people know what one is interested
in and then respondents can e-mail the replies. Sounds like it should
work and is a compromise on the idea of having an area devoted to
"special discounts". What do you think?
Sounds like what actually has been taking place since before I ever
joined this forum! <BG> Murph'
>> Sounds like what actually has been taking place since before I ever joined
this forum! <<
I wouldn't know, as I don't pay much attention to this sort of thing.
-JE
John:
I agree totally! Post a message requesting prices on something, and
have the responses sent by private e-mail. Makes everybody happy!
Greg Pyros
James,
But this is not about dealers posting prices, neither mail orders
announcing on ASOFT. I think that this is more in the TIPS and TRICKS
dept. I.E. Tip of the month: how to save money when buying memory? 🙂
It will always be talk between users: "hey Ana, I have got one 16MB
for $30 from blah, blah, blah" or "got a 1.05 gig HD for $985!" (and
the last is true 🙂
That's the idea. Do you think that it will do so harm to the dealers
community here? We can also include in the list each of the dealers
in the forum for other product reference. For example, aren't you
tired of replying people (well, you are dealer, let's say John Ellis)
asking how can get this or that thing? Videos, Vistas,
Illuminators… instead of saying "oh, yes, Murph is a Matrox dealer,
ask him" why not say "oh, yes, you have a complete list on the
libraries about who is carrying Matrox, with phones, faxes, names,
etc…" Then the people will choose the dealer they want, according
to several parameters, as geographical zone, costumer service, etc…
but after all, they own parameters.
This could be combined effort that will report benefit to anyone. It's
like having yellow pages for the 3ds world.
Anyone with me?
ana /krazy images
Ana – It makes sense to me and if certain dealers don't like it, they
don't have to offer assistance. This is supposed to be a forum for
the use and assistance of 3DS users, which in my estimation includes
all aspects of that utilization including hardware and software
purchases etc. Why else would there be so many dealers here? And
come to think of it, this etiquette concept has gotten a little
twisted. Dealers and consumers alike may or may not want to discuss
openly their purchases or sales which is why its done through e-mail,
not as Murph suggests because of etiquette. I've seen on several
occasions prices listed for things by dealers. And if a dealer has a
good deal on something why shouldn't he/she let us know. I've seen
that happen here recently in the case of hard-drives by a very
reputable dealer and software too by another. So Murph I guess I
don't know what you're talking about. Or is it a double standard? If
ASOFT has a position on this, that's fine, as long as its consistent,
but I've never heard of a policy on this way or the other. But it
should probably be kept in its own section, which would be easy enough
to do in say Hardware/ADI.
-JE
I'm a dealer. I'm also a threadmaster, and a primary sysop in another
forum.
Every once in a while, I sell something to a forum member. We either
talk via email, or they call me. But I don't troll for customers
here. And I don't post messages which say "I've got a great deal on
hard disks this week." It's not because it's bad form – rather, It
is because this forum is not a swap meet.
We have a little rule here. No trolling, and no advertising. There
may be a grey line about how far a dealer can go, but if they cross
the line (and quoting prices is considered crossing the line), the
threadmasters will move their message out of public view, and give
them a little lecture. If they go way over the line, they'll probably
get a bunch of nastygrams from the threadmasters. A few messages may
slip through, but not too many.
Although we don't have a formal code of conduct here, we don't allow
commercial pricing. The only exception is IPAS routines and meshes
produced by *individuals*. Companies which produce IPAS routines,
such as Pyros and Schreiber, are *not* allowed to provide pricing
information unless a forum member explicitly requests it. (And, if
they are a non-exclusive dealer, they should only quote retail or
reference pricing.)
You're free to post a list of discount sources if you like. But if
you do, a couple of things are going to happen. First, there will be
a discussion in the private sysop section about whether to allow it.
(This is a privately owned and managed forum, and free speech rules
do *not* apply here, no matter what you may have been led to
believe.) Second, there will be a discussion in the private dealer
section about the ramifications of the list.
The bottom line is that your list is going to go over with dealers
about as well as a Honda at a biker bar. You're really better off
just skipping it.
Your "facts" are inaccurate on a couple of points. First off, it is
NOT my list. Second; Books, CD-ROMS, Hard-drives and other
miscellaneous items have been offered for sale here, including 3D
Studio, Diaquest controllers, Monitors and Targa Boards, many of
which have been sold in a "swap meet" style. No one has ever made an
issue of it. I have no interest in pursuing the creation of a list,
but not because of your inferences, but rather out of respect for
Greg P's comments regarding the subject which were much more
persuasive.
OK – It wasn't your list per se – I just grabbed your message out of
the thread. Sorry to sound so strident!
I didn't make my point well. Greg did a *much* better job.
Yeah well, as someone who doesn't always understand the rules of the game, I
can certainly be enlightened but I don't think I need to be hit with a 2×4". So
here's to a more cordial relationship in the future. Prost.
-JE
Ana loka,
sounds reasonable to me.
Also, if I mention a price for a product, I usually mention a "street price",
rather than a "retail price". I don't want people to pay too much.
Martin Pirata,
Me alegro de que estemos de acuerdo. That's the idea! Get the life
easy for those people who don't have an Onyx at home for their little
daughters (hey Paul!) <g> The flic world! The PAR world! The fish and
chips as daily lunch world! Summarizing: the third video world.
Revolution 8 <g>
ana /krazy images
Ana,
>> "got a 1.05 gig HD for $985!" (and the last is
true 🙂 <<
They paid too much you can get a Micorpolis 1.2GB for $749.00….of course it's
probably not going to be any good for Multimedia but that's the problem with
buying just on price….isn't it. <g>
>> Do you think that it will do so harm to the dealers community
here? << I don't know if It would…But that's not the point the
point is that I've felt more comfortable quoting List on the open
forum and letting everyone else work their deals out privately. It's
how Business is done…If your out at a coffee shop and you hear to
guys arguing about prices in public don't you think that that's
rather rude…especially when you may have invited a client with you
that was quoted higher by you just before you walked in. Get It!
Why should you be able to dictate prices in somebody elses deal?
Besides it's not as simple as just plain "PRICES" What kind of service
goes with that price…does the dealer really know his stuff? You
seem to forget that in business it's the perceived value that is
important. If you devalue the product and services of an entire
industry by distilling all the issues down to simply Price your
missing the value of the industry entirely. You write for a magazine
don't you? Suppose I said that I buy a paper every morning and it
only "costs" me 25 cents…now why should I pay $3.00 dollars for
your Mazazine when my paper only costs 25 cents. Same aggument! It
doesn't make sense. If someone wants to do business with Krazy
images on this forum but I come along and say "Hey….Your Paying
tooo Much" That automatically puts you in the position of having to
defend your pricing. NOW….You may be worth every penny of it but
how does this perspective client know that…You see I've brought in
the issue of "PRICE" Above all else! It's not really very fair or
really a very smart way to do business. There is such a thing as
Quality and Service as well as something else called Integrity. Try
to put a price on that!
I'm not sure that your "Price" Argument relates to listing dealers but I would
see no harm in listing dealers and authorizationa as long as there was no
pricing. Besides Prices change weekly…who the hell is gonna keep up with it?
<BG>
Murph'
Really, most of what you have argue is real nosense from any marketing point of
view. Let's get it straight.
The game is _Free market_ You and Greg have jumped in defending your right to
establish prices privately and this is OK for me. However, public prices will
do not inflinge any harm in the dealer community in the forum, at least, not
from my point of view. Public prices help to get competitive markets running.
Free america, free capitalism, freedom of choice at least. You have talked
about the magazines prices. Bad example. Unlike your ideal, seems to me,
"protected dealer structures", the newstand is a complete open market in which
magazines, newspaper and books compete to get a dollar from the reader wallet.
What we have to try is to make our product competitive against other products
and find the right combination between price and quality of contents.
We put a price in the cover, a price that anyone can read. We compete against
PC Magazine and PC World, and we are winning the battle to PC Magazine, but
loosing it against PC World. PC World actually cost more that our magazine,
while PC Mag cost the same. There is a contest for quality, best content and
best offers. The reader, as a free buyer, have to make the choice. There are a
lot of cheaper computers mags too, but they don't have any significant market
share. And they are cheaper.
But yes, I have been working in a magazine and I have heard the people in the
PR dept. how they are tired of asking hardware and software dealers price for
their products and recieve no answer. I have nothing against that, but I firmly
think that this DOESN'T help an open market and doesn't benefit the costumer
who wants, like you, to maximize profits. As an informer, I always ask for
price, then publish it and make my opinions about if the price is the correct
or not according to the product, the service support, etc…
No, I don't want to dictate prices in somebody eles deal! Indeed, THE MARKET is
WHO DICTATES the price. If you can't understand that, you should take ECO -101.
But you are right, price is not everything. And here is where the dealer have
to shine! You name it! Service, reliability, support, etc… here's is where
you can make the difference against the discount market. For sure, I have
bought my Kodak ColorEase from a dealer that can support me (or that's what I
think <g>) when I need it because I have spend $7,000 in the damn thing. But If
I need to buy Painter I will buy it throught the discount channel BECAUSE any
dealer will give me support in a program that cost $170 (you talk about it in
other threads).
So here is a case in which dealers will not recieve harm. We are talking about
memories, HDs, etc and programs from big companies… not the kind of deals in
which you guys are involved. You won't find a PAR or a BetaSP deck or 3DS in
CompUSA, would you?
Regarding prices update… I'm not asking for a permanent track of best prices.
I know how market fluctuates. However, an orientation price for diferent items
and godd places to buy discount, along with good dealers and aproximative (i.e.
$1,000-$1,500) prices of non-discountable items could be a way to inform the
public, while maintaining your right to deal "privately". You know, Murph' this
is not an attack to any of the dealers in the forum, which I think they are of
a _great_ human and professional quality, but just a medium to protect the
innocent buyer from the decieve and bad prices of other not so good dealers who
actually "operate" in the US (as you say, those who don't know a thing about
the products they sell at gold price).
A little tale: I told to Gus by e-mail that the guys from DEC wanted me to pay
_$800_ for an extra 8MB for each DEC. I said them, ARE YOU KRAZY? Well, I said
that because I'm moreless aware of the market probably another (unaware) person
will pay for it. The objective of an orientative list in the libraries is to
avoid this type of situations in many other fields.
Look at my as an electronic magazine in which people will get the opinions
about lot of products from the experts here plus places and prices about how to
get them. Add the HD, memories, etc… cheap sources to make your 3ds machines
run faster. Finally, publish it bimonthly and save the time of happy users,
save the time of the happy experts ("oh, yes, I think that the discussion about
the PAR is in the September-October issue of ASOFT MAG, take it") and normalize
the market traffic already present in the forum (in fact, it will completely
eliminate it).
ana /krazy images
I don't enjoy weeding though tons of requests for mail order prices just to get
to messages related to the real reasons for this forum. Large numbers of this
kind of traffic reduce the response to "real" questions and problems. I don't
have time to read all of the current messages. I end up sorting through and
deleting many of the threads. If an individual wants to shop mail order
prices, they can buy a Computer Shopper (or other ad mag). This is fine (I do
it myself), but they shouldn't expect forum dealers to match these no service
prices. I don't see a problem with relegating specific price questions to
E-Mail.
SSH –Graphic Realities–
Scott,
Obviusly, you didn't read the entire thread, did you? As we say in Spain: "Y
dale pedales!" which means short of "back again and again to the same thing".
NO, I don't want to convert this forum in a marketplace. read carefully the
WHOLE thread and I am sure you will get a pretty good idea of what I mean. What
I said not only would not add more commercial related messages but, by the
contrary, it will reduce the message traffic in the forum.
READ CAREFULLY and you will get a close and wider idea of what is the meaning
of all this discussion. Sometimes I fell like a) I have the poorest english in
the world or b) people are too busy to read a message and, more important,
understand all the points (or c) both)
ana /krazy images
Sorry I didn't intend on sounding so austere, I just grabbed your
message out of this thread. I just thought that I would through my
two cents in. I know that they are not worth much, yet. <g> But,
know that you mention it I have read this entire thread.
>>Tip of the month: how to save money when buying memory? 🙂 It will
always be talk between users: "hey Ana, I have got one 16MB for $30
from blah, blah, blah" or "got a 1.05 gig HD for $985!" (and the last
is true :)<<ana
Yes, I do think this will create more traffic.
>>I can't see the wrong side of a
HD/Tape/MO/Memory/Tablets/misc.Software/etc. list in the harware
section of the forum<<ana
I don't have a problem with such a list, but I think Evan pretty much
summed up the prospects of such a list in his forum message #80020.
>>Post a message requesting prices on something, and have the
responses sent by private e-mail.<< Greg Pyros
I also think that keeping the price responses limited to e-mail is a
good policy. There always exceptions to every rule, but in general
wouldn't this be a good idea.
>>I have bought my Kodak ColorEase from a dealer that can support me
(or that's what I think <g>) when I need it because I have spend
$7,000 in the damn thing. But If I need to buy Painter I will buy it
throught the discount channel BECAUSE any dealer will give me support
in a program that cost $170<<ana
I agree completely. I purchased items like AG-7750, Ill-Pro and 3DS
from dealers that could and would offer support, but I purchased
items like mem., hds, DOS, Picture Publisher ……. at discount
prices.
And no, you don't have the poorest english in the world. If I
understand your messages # 80091 & #80415 correctly I think we agree
on most of these issues.
I happen to have an UltraStor 34f VLB FSCSI-2, a Diamond Viper VLB, a
486-66 DX2 cpu and a Turtle Beach Multisound sound card for sale, any
bidders <g> (e-mail of course).
Ana,
>> However, public
prices will do not inflinge any harm <<
OK ANA…..How much do you want for that Used 6 x 9 Wacom Tablet?
Let's Start the Bidding!
Or maybe Let's see who can give me the best price <g>.
Murph'
Read your e-mail 🙂 BTW, thaaaat's nooot the waaaaaay… <g>
ana /krazy images
I didn't say anything about a threat to my business! There is nothing
wrong with getting the best prices you can. (I do it myself!)
I just strongly believe that this is not the place for a mail order
shopping discussion. Following the later posts, I agree with those
who will ask to know about getting good prices and leaving it on
private e-mail.
This is the Autodesk Software forum, mainly for tips, tricks, and
hardware and software reviews and discussions. I don't want to waste
my time reading a commercial for "Joe's black market memory prices".
The dealers and manufacturers here have a professional agreement to
only post manufacturer's list prices on the forum. I strongly
believe that the users should adhere to the same guidelines. If you
want a discount price, call or post e-mail requesting info. Many,
including myself, would be happy to help in that manner.
Yes, we offer many discounts and full system prices to our clients, as
do most dealers. But you will never see them posted here.
All the dealers here (as well as others) provide many hours of advice
for no charge whatsoever, and don't ask anything in return, except
perhaps a bit of respect. I want to be able to keep telling my
clients about the great information available here, and encourage
them to go online.
If you want a mail order price, GO MALL! <g>
My thrust was a problem only with the method and place, not the concept!
Greg Pyros
Then I can't understand why you have jumped with the previous reply. The tone
of that replay (and the last one) is what push me to think that maybe I have
touched a delicate vein.
No, I agree with you that this is not the place for mail order shopping
discussion. Indeed, my idea goes along these lines.
First, I am tired of download messages (and have to ask them)
regarding prices, where to and how to buy somethiing information. I
mean, it's a pleasure to help people, but sometimes it could be easy
to direct them to a reference file in the libraries with a kind of
catalog, like the Truevision source book but about 3ds and 3ds
related products. This will save us those big threads about pricing,
product info, etc… Do you know how many times I have to say how
much I like the Wacom in a week? <g> Greg, I think on this not as way
to convert the forum on a market place but, in the contrary, make a
service to those who visit the forum, your clients or whoever wants
to stop by here to retrieve information.
This forum is a source of information of all kinds, but it's not
permanent. I mean, sometimes there are some threads with small
discussions about hardware and software, and putting them in files
with the correct addresses and references will save us to repeat the
same discussion when someone new jumps in asking for the same product
or for this or that other solution. You don't have to waste your time
reading "joe's black market prices" because 1st) this is an
exageration, 2nd)this is not my idea and 3rd)after all, downloading is
a voluntary act. This is not advertisement, this is user2user tips
and tricks to go to the correct place, with the correct service and
with the correct prices and cut the transaction cost. You are good
and big, Greg, and this will not affect you in anyway. By the
contrary, here is an example of my idea: Why don't include the PAR
specs in the libraries, along with the MAX and the Abekas along with
the past threads about those products, some prices and some phone
numbers, including the Pyros Partnership's one (and don't say me that
you don't need this… people need this to know how to go) Will this
be unfair for anyone? You say that you don't waste your time reading
commercials… this will save you and me to read and write
infomercials, and will help people to find what they want advised by
dozens expert and not so expert 🙂 opinions and experiences.
It's easy! It's clean! It's safe! <g> Really, take the example of the DEC XL
thread or the Pentium related ones. Put all them in a file, clean them up, add
some conclusions, prices, benchmarks, etc… and post it in the Hardware
library under the title: "3DS and Pentium processors: Great Computers for the
Greatest 3D".
Regarding respect… well, I have seen how half of the forum people have drop
the respect for the other half people in the forum. Seriously, althought all is
acompanied with 🙂 and <g>s, sometimes I don't see too much respect here. This
is hard to admit, but I think that all of us KNOW that _sometimes_ there is
more that innocent comments and discussions here.
BTW, this forum is not supported by dealers. We all are the forum
supporters. You are here because it's a great place to discuss 3ds
and other tech. trends and because it is a benefit for you and your
_clients_. It save support time, it save everything. Nobody of us is
here for the enjoyment of pay Compuserve bills and talk with each
other about stupid things and loose precious free time, but for the
enjoyment of getting and give, share information and experiences with
other people (user, dealers, Mr.President or the Pope). Tell me that
you are here because you are so good that they will name you Saint
Gregory. If you say me that you don't recieve any benefit from here,
you are not telling the truth, Greg.
Dealers or users, all of us get something from the forum.
ana /krazy images
Ana:
Gregory is a saint. <g>
FWIW, putting together a list of suppliers is really not necessary.
CompuServe already has a computer buyers guide (GO COMPBG) which
lists commodity products (RAM, disks, graphics boards, etc.) with
prices from national mail order houses. Check it out.
Evan
Evan:
>> Gregory is a saint.
When you're right, you're right! <g>
Greg Pyros
Evan,
Please read my reply to James and Greg about this. Thanks!
ana /krazy images
>> a reference file in the libraries with a kind of catalog, like the
>> Truevision source book but about 3ds and 3ds related products.
I have no problem with this, and enjoy the Truevision source book. Why? It
has good information, and lets me compare different products. And the pricing
is all manufacturer's suggested list price.
If you haven't noticed, I've even put together a list of all the IPAS routines
available from anyone and included info on where to get them. My own source
book for forum members. No discount prices anywhere in it, just like the
Truevision book!
Yes, I get a benefit of the knowledge base here on ASOFT, but I believe that I
give as much as I receive. Evan pointed out the other forums that are devoted
to RAM and disk prices, these are enough, IMHO. Autodesk pays for this forum,
and would probably be happier to have their scroll rate lower than to see
prices on products that are of no interest to them take up the message base!
Like I said from the beginning, my only problem with the whole idea was in the
listing of discount prices. You can disagree with me, it's OK! People have
done that before, and some even got away with it! <g>
Greg Pyros
Yes, all of us get a benefit and benefit the others 🙂
Read my reply to James, I think that it's crude but that's how things work here
in most parts of the "civilized" world (except for dealers, doctors and
attorneys? <g> sorry about that!)
I think that both of us agree in the main things. However, it seems that,
still, you don't understand my idea. Well, the problem is, mostly, at the
communication level (exactly, my ability to communicate something in English
<g> —you have to hear me speaking! what a shame! 🙂
Let's forget everything but… read that reply and tell me what do you think
about the last idea: an small electronic publication based on forum (cleaned)
threads and with some useful indexes (companies, dealers, useful phone
numbers…).
But again, I think about this as a way to make life easy to everyone, you, me
and any visitor. I really got tired on reading the same things about the same
subjects again and again. I thought the idea of a reference library could be
really useful for everybody, slow down the scroll rate, etc…
Summary
Want to know what the 3ds crowd think about that or that other device or
software? go to the libraries. Who sell it? Go to the libraries. Suggested
price? Go to the libraries.
Really, don't you think it coulbe a very good idea.
ana /krazy images
ps.Suggested retail $ is ok for me 🙂
Ana:
>> Suggested retail $ is ok for me 🙂
Then we are in 100% agreement! I don't mind the idea of performing a service
of telling forumites what is available, and even where it is available (look at
my recently updated IPAS.TXT for a perfect example!) My _only_ problem was in
bringing in discounted prices for many of the reasons that were brought up here
on the forum. :^)
Greg Pyros
What's this?! You guys are agreeing? Its not even Friday yet! <G> I figured
this thread was good for at least a week! <BG> Where's Don? This just won't do!
-JE
Ana and I have known each other far too long to let a good forum
debate get in the way of our friendship! It's what makes the forum
go 'round!
Greg;
>> Ana and I have known each other far too long to let a good forum debate get
in the way…. <<
Yeah but you could have at least kept it going till Friday! <G>
-JE