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David – I noticed that too. Dreadful. -Tom-
#Great Book!
Message #6507
I just finished a fantastic book and wanted to pass the info along. It's called The Cuckoo's Egg by Clifford Stoll, and it's the true story about how a Berkeley astrophysicist stalked and found the Hannover Hacker who was breaking into military computers all over the world. It's hardback, but…
According to Adobe, they haveno problem with Metamorphasis being used for personal uses. Adobe does, however, regard any commercial distribution of a font generated from an Adobe font as a violation of its license agreement.
OK…Now I have a better idea of what you're doing, and yes, I'd agree that shots of the nls would drive the costs up and increase the workload as well. I like the idea of the graphic code for categories, and think you could find something to assign to even…
#TeX, anyone?
Message #6503
Is there anyone out there who uses TeX for typography? There must be. Who are you? Where are you? What do you do? Is there enough interest for a forum?
David, I attended a Promotional Perspectives seminar two years ago and was very impressed (sorry, Thom!). But then, I'm a rank beginner to any type of design, and the seminar was geared to beginners. They went over design considerations like making sure your reader will open the page the right…
Dianne, Format I'm considering now is 5.5 x 8.5, spiral bound. Because the information will be rather "form-like", there will be some white space between lines, etc. Each newsletter will be on one page. I had thought about including shots of the newsletters, but have a couple of concerns –…
#Out-placement etc.
Message #6500
Dave – Just found a book at Crown yesterday that you might be interested in, called "Discover what you're best at" (hmmmm-ending with a preposition? "Daddy, what did you bring that book that I didn't want to be read to out of up for?") by Barry and Linda Gale -…
Dave (and Pam, Anthony and Denise) – Thanks for the Apple II recomendations. I'll pass the information along to my principal's wife. Seems like $195/lab pack is a pretty fair bargain, compared to the per/pkg. price. Hope they can swing it. -Joyce
From:
Thom Hartmann <HiResOp>
Desktop Publishing Forum
· Other DTP Systems
January 28, 1990 12:46 AM
Mike, I just got one of those "forehead slaps" as Lamar refers to them… Do you think it's possible that even a small part of the MS/Apple Royal collaboration was an effort to head off NeXT (which is PostScript-based)? –Thom
From:
Thom Hartmann <HiResOp>
Desktop Publishing Forum
· Type & Typography
January 28, 1990 12:39 AM
That's interesting, BTW, and news to me. (I remember talking with a Bitstream dealer some months ago, who was pushing the fonts as "identical," and also heard the same song from our local Quark rep when their on-screen rendering first came out, with the Bitstream fonts. But it makes sense…
From:
Thom Hartmann <HiResOp>
Desktop Publishing Forum
· Type & Typography
January 28, 1990 12:35 AM
Do the slight changes, then, mean that "somebody else's work" has _not_ been "stolen?" –Thom
I thought I read somewhere that BusinessLand was being set-up to distribute software for the next. Bring in a CD-ROM, buy the program, and copy it from their machines right in the store.
From:
Thom Hartmann <HiResOp>
Desktop Publishing Forum
· Type & Typography
January 28, 1990 12:33 AM
I agree totally with your last point about payment for shareware. We've actually sent in cash for Add/Strip and other programs, but I know we're in a very, very small minority. I'm also amazed that there hasn't been more discussion about all the ripped-off photos, scans and artwork that's littered…
Wait a minute. It sounds like you use FreeHand more than I do, but I've been able to rotate a TIFF file in FreeHand and then view it properly in XPress. The first time I tried it I didn't have enough memory (I guess), so I switched to Finder-only (on…
Maybe youse guys could take turns working (if it's a semi-slow night)! You're presence will be sorely missed by all!
Dennis, Actually, providing higher resolution output is a very important service in and of itself. These imagesetters cost around $65,000, and that doesn't include the cost of a developer, chemicals, film, etc. Since the imagesetter directly exposes the RC paper (repro) or film directly to laser light, the resolution can…
From:
Mike Musick/Ass't Sysop
Desktop Publishing Forum
· Making Money w/DTP
January 28, 1990 12:17 AM
So it's a "desert joke", huh? Yucca yucca yucca!!! …mm
From:
Mike Musick/Ass't Sysop
Desktop Publishing Forum
· Making Money w/DTP
January 28, 1990 12:17 AM
Jim – Just an observation about all those "squirts" you were getting on a paper-tape driven Lino – an interesting phenomenon that I saw was that semi-automated linecasters tended to get less preventive maintenance that did operator-driven linos, and they were run harder and longer, to boot! The net result…
From:
Mike Musick/Ass't Sysop
Desktop Publishing Forum
· Other DTP Systems
January 28, 1990 12:16 AM
(Excuse the lapse, David – busy, busy week.) The impression I've gotten is the NeXT has quietly abandoned the idea of using the optical disk as the sole mass-storage device. The idea was initially a good one, but the realities of the sub-par seek times eventually overcame the most optimistic…
From:
Mike Musick/Ass't Sysop
Desktop Publishing Forum
· Hi-Res & Srvc Bur's
January 28, 1990 12:16 AM
Bill – At this moment, we're downloading the .C00 files like everyone else, though I can count our current VP clients on one finger, and they send us no-brainers. It's been years since I've seriously dealt directly with VP, so maybe I'm in for a shocker or two. …mm
From:
Mike Musick/Ass't Sysop
Desktop Publishing Forum
· Hi-Res & Srvc Bur's
January 28, 1990 12:16 AM
(Sorry about the lapse, Brad – office has been a major zoo this week!) I see that Bruce knows the trick, too. The secret basically revolves around the fact that most DTP applications are relatively "well-behaved" about not carrying-over variable conditions from page to page. Variables (setgrays, findfonts, setfonts, et…
I've seen MultiAd Creator, and have taken it around the block a couple times. I don't use it regularly. It seems real powerful, *and* it seems kind of "buggy", for lack of better word. One for-instance: I rotated a tiff file, and at actual size it looked great, but at…
I've known color printers who printed *all* colors under the black to get a really dense, rich black. Sounds like overkill to me, but, hey, I'm not a printer…
I do work nights … and I work with Bill … so count us both out unless it's a slow night, in which case we'll go online from work. (I can just see trying to explain to the boss what it is that we're doing…. maybe I could call it…
Such a camera would never fly! Kodak would go out of business … 99% of the photo processing in the country would come to a screaming halt! Come to think of it, such a concept would have the same effect on DTP .
No doubt, both Adobe and Bitstream are breathing a little easier because of that ruling. I wonder what effect this might have on Metamorphosis? If the program actually copies some of the code instead of generating it's own code I could see some interesting legal battles shaping up. The fact…
I don't know of *any* cases of outright font copying with photo or digital type. Cg's Helios and Triumverate are definitely *not* the same cut as the original Helvetica. Same goes for Swiss. Bitstream's Times is not the same as Adobe's Times… Paladium is not exactly the same as Palatino,…
Sorry to disappoint, guy, but they haven't made a demo of it. To get more info (and this really is an exciting program for making fonts, adjusting outline stroke widths, underline thicknesses and their baseline shift), contact Design Science, at: 6475-B East Pacific Coast Highway, Suite 392 Long Beach, CA…
The need to create one or two letters of an alphabet was a steady complaint against Fontsizer. You could create a screen font suitcase with any size you wanted (as long as you had a PS printer), but folks just wanted to create a suitcase with the character that they…
You can find a file in our Personal Publishing library (#16) called PPFREE.TXT that's a form that can be printed out and mailed to PP to see if you qualify for a complimentary subscription. If nothing else, you can get the appropriate address from the file!
#ParaFonts
Message #6472
ParaFonts & fractions — where? how much? I want to see the demo NOW. (Preparing to stomp my foot and turn blue …)
Fairbairn read it.
Paul – I hate it when lurkers fade … -Tom-
From:
Thom Hartmann <HiResOp>
Desktop Publishing Forum
· Type & Typography
January 27, 1990 10:54 PM
Amen! (And, believe me, they are *abundant* elsewhere…)
From:
Thom Hartmann <HiResOp>
Desktop Publishing Forum
· Type & Typography
January 27, 1990 10:51 PM
What would be really nice is if you could condense or expand a font with XPress, send a bit of it to the printer, and then suck it back with Metamorphosis, creating a new "Times 21% condensed" face for yourself. (Is this possible, Earl?) I believe you're right about the…
From:
Thom Hartmann <HiResOp>
Desktop Publishing Forum
· Type & Typography
January 27, 1990 10:46 PM
If that's the case, Tripp, then why aren't they knocking on Bitstream or Image Studio or any of the other company's doors? In the days of phototypesetters, there were any number of disks from various suppliers for the same faces, and now it's happening with digital fonts. I believe that…
From:
Thom Hartmann <HiResOp>
Desktop Publishing Forum
· Hi-Res & Srvc Bur's
January 27, 1990 10:40 PM
John, We, too, have an L100 (w/RIP 2) and a CG 9400, and I absolutely echo everything you said! –Thom (The Newsletter Factory)
I can't find Personal Publishing or Publish on the newsstands in this area. Can you furnish any subscription info or addresses? Appreciate it. Thanks. Bob
#Bitstream vs. ATM
Message #6463
I'm going to query Adobe on this also, but just thought I'd ask here. I set up some pages to compare my Bitstream freebies to Adobe type in PageMaker and ATM conked out completely. I was putting Bitstreams Century Schoolbook on the same page as Adobe's New Century Schoolbook, and…
#CompuServe Magazine
Message #6462
CompuServe Magazine uses Helvetica Narrow! I can't believe my eyes. What a mess. What a bunch of cheapskates. They're going to get some GO FEEDBACK from me on this.
Philip, We have had great success with Minolta copiers. We currently have two EP410Z models. They have a range of 50 to 200% by 0.1% increments, with programable buttons for oft-used sizes, etc. They have a sharp line edge and produce good solid blacks. Standard paper sizes for the machine…
Brad, So the service bureau basically adds higher resolution, and converts the page to printer ready form? Any other benefits? Can anyone explain why an imagesetter produces higher resolution than a laser printer? Do different brands of imagesetters adhere to a uniform color standard? Specifically, would a graphic's color look…
Tripp, You guys are starting to sound like some of us over in PhotoForum. With all the autofocus, autoeverything cameras out there, we are looking for a camera that auto-composes and won't let the shutter trip until an aesthetically pleasing composition is arranged. JC
John, Thanks for the vote of confidence. My CG rep left here a few hours ago with our order for a 9400ps and MaxRIP. JC Files busy, code 5-2(56) … have files (16 sec)
Coincidental to all of this, there has been a very important ruling by the copyright office announced this week. Adobe has been granted a copyright related to is version of ITC Garamond Light. Note that I say "related." Traditionally, you have not been able to copyright the design of a…
Chip, So am I correct that once you've evaluated all the faces, there will be an updated version of TurboRes? Also, I've seen TurboRes advertised with a product from a company called Raster Devices. They're located up in your neck of the woods–and their ads strike me as quite similar…
Susan – Aw, gosh! I thought that this would be the one place where I would be safe from all the super bowl hoopla! :-0 — don
Thom – I don't run the DTP Forum as some sort of "king."> — that's good, wizards are much more powerful than mere kings! 🙂 I wouldn't want them here, even if they were available everywhere else. — don
Thom – Re:
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