This is an archive of CompuServe forum messages from 1985 to 1995, as saved in transcripts by John Foust.
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It would seem to me that "private purposes" means private collection as apposed to collection for financial gain.
I'm no expert on caves, but I believe most are formed as a result of various sorts of underground water activity. I don't know if you would classify all of them as streams. Most are in limestone simply because it dissolves easily. Cave advice, don't go alone, let others know…
Sorry Doug I did mean to attend. Here in Pacifica, CA it was a beautiful day. I spent it outside doing various household chores including building a combination fountain and Budda shrine for my wife. Also I installed some outdoor electrical hook ups. It just slipped my mind. I normally…
This is still part of "The Ring of Fire", don't look for a constant predictable rate of change. Rather such activities tend to be intermittent and dramatic in the changes they bring.
Good answer on aa.
There is an attorney here at this forum. I don't believe they have right to detain you. You could just walk away. If they hold you without cause, file a complaint. Perhaps rangers have the authority to search backpacks, I don't know. If you are not armed and therefor not…
You name it he clamped down on it. Everything but killing.
Lanny, what do you mean by hassled? A citation? Were they rude or abusive. The only people who ever gave me a hard time were some gold miners who think everyone is out to jump their claim. I guess I have spent allot of time in desert regions, it is…
True but they are rarely arrested for it. (Roughnecks) No law will stop everone. There will always be murders, thiefs ETC. Here in CA there was an article about I belive is name is Bobbit who visited Yosemite a few days ago. The park is now allmost at the point…
When I was a student living in New Mexico there was this sandstone that had circular, reddish spots which could be found on some specimens. Some theorized that they were at one time wormholes that had latter been filled in or perhaps even the remains of the worm itself.
I never said you should stop, i do believe that you and others should obtain permits similiar to hunting permits, that they should not be hard to get assuming you can prove a minimum amount of skill and respect for the land. Lanny i have spent a great deal of…
Mr. Schactman: What gets thru to you! I am not going to argue with you. Either leave me alone, stop posting and sending messages addressed to me or I will have no other choice then to go to Compuserve and file a formal written complaint against you!
Mr. Schachtman, this is a situation were we are two men with two entirely different points of view. So be it then! I do not want to have a running battle with you!
I don't believe they are trying to stop you all together. What exactly are you after, and why can't you find it someplace else? There are vast open areas in the country. I suspect that certain areas of rare specimens are being closed because a misuse by others. You get…
There has to be a law there in the first place to break. Of coarse simply making a law will not stop anyone. If nobody ever did anything that was in any way wrong we would not need them at all. The purpose of a law, among many, is to…
Wormhole? Must be a Star Trek fan here.
Tame, I heard one physicist make that statement that his calculations indicated, and i am not sure of the distance, but is, if a human would have been anywhere within a few miles of the falls breakout, that the noise of the water falling would have been so great along…
Thats is the plate tectonic theory on how Hawaii got here or there, they say its moves throughout time.
Sea Levels?
Message #126674
Chris to be honest I don't think the oceans drained. The is very obvious evidence of sea level changes on the coast of CA where I live. The point I was trying to make to you is "established" science does not have all the answers. Never stop questioning!
Sea Levels?
Message #126673
I don't know if they found them there. Much petroleum type drilling has occurred there so if they did they would have found them. Chris, I have 11 messages waiting in reply to the one I sent you, probably to tell me I am full of shit in regards to…
#Is Collecting Proper
Message #126671
Dear Lanny, I think the reality of what is happening here is a few assholes are ruining it for everyone else. I wish it wasn't so but that is the pattern. A few abusive people make rules and regs necessary.
Takes open air exposure thats why, There's a complex set of reasons why Death Valley is the way it is. Did you know that it is really a dried up lake?
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#Sea Levels?
Message #126675
Ah the closed mind. Theory, speculation, and established scientific fact. Very few people really know and understand the difference.I don't believe anything that Chris proposess, but thinking and questioning, thats a good thing. That's what advances science. It's not the people who go with the flow, conform. and fit it…
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Is Collecting Proper
Message #126672
Life is complex, isn't it John!
In Geology there are many facts. It is always interesting how many different people can take the same facts, learned through scientific observation and come to totally different conclusions. Twenty years ago nobody would have believed that the Medditerean sea (sorry about my spelling) has repeatily dried up to the…
I myself have never heard it used in that manner. I don't know what you would call someone who salts a specimin to con another person into investing. Cheat, con man, crook and thief works for me. Many ores mined ar attually low grade deposits of miners on a microscopic…
In the CB service of Compuserve they have a squelch function which enables you to block out any messages that you don't want to receive from any individuals that you decide, forum of coarse you can not stop. Thats what I was asking you about. In regards to being criticized,…
Collecting
Message #126325
My beliefs flow from an knowledge of the damage many people do on public and private lands, and how they have personally profited by it,not from reading Carl Marx, you know Mr. Schachtman, I never even read Marx, guess what, I haven't even read Mien Kampt or however the hell…
#Is Collecting Proper
Message #126321
Doug this is all too true, laws without inforcement mean nothing. Thats why I can't understand why people on this forum are upset over any legislation. Reasonable people know it just plain unenforceable anyway. The gove is not going to create a rock police, the FBI isn't going to go…
When I was in college, studing Geology, the term was used there. It is not an insult, similiar to rockhound. A Highgrader is someone who searches for and sells valuable mineral specimens for profit. Well maybe it is, I don't know, some people think Lawyer is an insult. There was…
Collecting
Message #126318
You live in a country were the leaders are elected by the democratic, two or more party process. Everybody who is over 18 can vote if they choose. Hilter was not really voted in. I think if you were to get hit over the head on the street for your…
The Nazies were a brutual regime of racist who took what they wanted by forced and tried to destroy anyone who opposed they without debate. They believed it to be their birthright. You implied I was a Communist in the same paragragh. I am not a racist and I would…
For your info one individual implied that I was both a Nazi and a Communist in the same sentence. Quite a feat. Nazi were racisist and facist who took what they wanted. Thats what some highgraders do.
No everyone should not be punished collecting in of itself is not wrong. I've seen damage by people who did not know what they were doing, which I don't believe includes you. Sometimes the reason a person has a gun out there in the field is they as small operators…
That's right let the public decide what should be done with public lands. All concerned should be heard. For you info my son just purchased by mail a basic rock specimin kit. Igns, Seds and Meta's plus your basic minerals. Many people do damage or don't give a damn who's…
They, aren't taking anything out and selling it under the table.
Collecting
Message #125781
The purpose of a forum is to bring out all points of view, open debate. Name calling, personal attacks and questioning peoples intellect isn't really needed. This collection issue seemed to only bring out one point of view, shouln't all points be brought forth? I don't agree with all of…
Dear Nathan, I have a masters degree and alot of you arguements went over my head, you are a very articulate man. This forum seemed to have attracted only one point of view. I wanted to bring out another. Some of these arguements collectors use they seem to want to…
I know there's people out there who blast it out in the middle of the night, thats what should stop. Did you know that people have broken into others property at night to steal specimens, got hurt, sued the owner of the property they trespassed on and won. You didn't…
Is Collecting Proper
Message #125663
Its not an issue of wether you are causing pain to the Earth. What is found on public land belongs to us all. This includes the people who don't have the time or the resources or the technical skill to find valuable specimens. Its is interesting to see the denial…
I don't know for sure but I had a professor who stated a theory that Iceland was created by either an impact of a comet or meteor on the spreading center that Iceland is located on
The U.S.G.S. has offices all throughout the U.S.. I live outside of San Francisco and we have one downw around Palo Alto. We can order and buy maps there. Check your white pages and even the yellow pages under government, Federal for a possible local listing. You don't have to…
Doug, any of those times are good for me. I got some free time on DELPHI and if I like their service better I may switch to them however. Right now I am paying an additional $15.00 per month on top of the basic $9.00 just to be part of…
Where at in AZ? I worked for AMAX Exploration in Tucson for a spell, is the mine any where near there?
This is true, I haven't been in the market for one myself for years. As I understood n he was looking to obtain or create a large display model. The type prof's used for teaching slide rule use seemed to me to be a good idea for him.
In the early seventies and eighties when I was in college there were no calculators. At least not the hand held varieties. We had to use slide rules. In most General Chemistry classes the semester started out with lessons on how to use a slide rule. To do this a…
Your right I am using "reply" and I am being more careful. Thanks, Todd
Thanks Doug, I understand, however if all this is true why did this women even bother to post this if it is that difficult to reply? How did she get on in the first place?
#Posting Messages
Message #121170
Thanks for posting my messages in the proper location. Compuserve sent me the program Wincom and I am still learning how to use it. What happened was I failed to notice and click down to the Section:Geology when I created these messages. Thank you
Thanks for your reply. I am an alumni of New Mexico Tech located in socorro, New Mexico. This is seventy miles south of Albuquerque. I know the adress given is not the school address, I simply wanted to find out if this is affiliated with New Mexico Tech or not.…
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