#OpalVision/24bit Boards
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HI,
I've decided that even if no more Amigas are going to be made I can still
get a lot more out of my system. Instead of going for AGA I'm thinking of
getting a 24bit graphics board and I would like to hear any suggestions.
What I'm looking for is something which comes with a good paint program
and is fairly fast. It would also be nice to have the ability to grab
frames and output NTSC. Retargetable graphics would be nice but not
entirely necessary.
It seems to me that the best solution is the OpalVision Board, especially
for the price. It doesn't give me RTG but there seem to be a lot of
products that support it anyway.
I have a couple questions about OpalVision:
1. How fast is it compared to other boards? How good is the s/w? 2. Is
a 6 meg 3000T fast enough and have enough RAM to be useful? 3. Will
GigaMem work with it?
4. Is there any composite video out or would I have to go for
the video processor?
4. Is it possible to work on images that are larger than the
screen display?
5. Any other concerns?
I am also willing to consider the other video boards although my
impression is that OpalPaint is far superior than any other amiga product.
If you have any comments I would love to hear them.
Andrew
"I have a couple questions about OpalVision:
1. How fast is it compared to other boards? How good is the s/w? 2. Is
a 6 meg 3000T fast enough and have enough RAM to be useful? 3. Will
GigaMem work with it?
4. Is there any composite video out or would I have to go for
the video processor?
4. Is it possible to work on images that are larger than the
screen display?
5. Any other concerns?
I am also willing to consider the other video boards although my
impression is that OpalPaint is far superior than any other amiga
product."
I have a friend who has an A4000 with an OpalVision board and he loves how
well the OV and software work for him.
My understanding of it, however, is that it does not have composite out.
And I would recommend that you have, at least, one S-Video connector out,
to give you a better quality picture.
The much-promised modules for video output have been long delayed, so I
wouldn't count on that.
My friend also has GigaMem, but he told me he hasn't used it with OV. Make
of that comment what you will.
You should not have any trouble working on 24-bit superbitmaps on any of
the boards.
The Picasso is an excellent 24 bit card as it uses fast ram to refresh the
screens, so it's really snappy. GVP's EGS Spectrum is a really good card,
but both it and Picasso have a current maximum display limit of 800×600.
The one that is cheaper than these other two, and offers 1152×862 current
max res plus AGA emulation and full 24 bit deep "Workbench" displays, is
the Retina. The newer Retina Z-III is the one you want, as it is a full 32
bit card. The AGA emulation isn't perfected quite yet, but it will allow
you to run the newer AGA capable software, with exception to the games
which boot up by disk.
The Z-III also has a built-in video encoder with both composite and
S-Video outputs.
The Retina, Picasso and Spectrum all have a great deal of support. I just
believe that for your purposes, you would be best served with the Retina
Z-III.
Best of luck! *B^)
-= Vance =- Image Master
Flying high on Imagine and Imagemaster R/t!
Is the Retina Z3 available yet? It looks like the card I want too, but
I'm a little confused by two of your comments – that superbitmaps are fine
on cards, and that the max res is only 1152×862 on the Retina. I thought
none of the cards out there had superbitmap scrolling, and I though the
Retina Z2 went up to 1280×1024. What's going on here?
Paul
As far as I know, the Retina Z-III isn't out as yet, but is to be
released, soon.
The resolution I was mentioning was a mistake. It was the one that the
original Retina used. Z-III not only has it higher, but is programmable
for even higher.
As for superbitmaps, I was referring to being able to work on
superbitmaps, not necessarily scroll them smoothly. Imagemaster R/t, I've
been told, works well with the Retina.
Sorry for the confusion. *B^)
-= Vance =- Image Master
Flying high on Imagine and Imagemaster R/t!
Retina Z3 is available in europe at least. Latest software 2.1.
It came 4 weeks ago.
My first impression was:
Remeber to order with the video modul(not finished yet)
Still its not ok in very important software like Dpaint and Scala. Still
no draggable screens.
No passthrough
It does not work on the A4000 with old buster.. (my own experience) Works
like a racecar with buster11 and cpu3.1 its really FAAAST
The VD paint (:-)) isnt close to opal or tvpaint…
Works ok at every WB program, Real 3D 2.4 (no old palette), PPage…,
Adpro.
Havn't tested Tvpaint on this card, not sure if it is full version or the
junior they (macrosystem) sell.
Maybee Ottmar R.(100333,1354) could answer this.
Geir Molstad, FAMO as, Fax +47 22357797
Thanks for the info! Is the no draggable screens thing a software or
hardware issue? Also, will it work in an A3k? The no passthrough is a
real problem. Hmm. So you basically need 2 monitors or an external
switcher?
How fast -is- it? <g>
And what do you mean no old palette on R3D2? I've got 2.3something, but
I'm going to upgrade soon.
Paul
Vance,
Thanks for answering so quickly.
I had considered both the EGS systems and the Retina & Picasso boards
but I was attracted by both the price and the quality of software that
comes with OpalVision. From what I understand the only package that comes
near to the features of OpalPaint is TVPaint but TVPaint would be an
additional $300 or so and, as I understand it, lacks some key features.
Unfortunately, I can't really afford to go for extra s/w. I believe the
paint s/w that is bundled with the other boards is less than full-featured
as well although they do have some nice features such as hires displays
(which I couldn't use on my 1942 anyway).
The Retina & Picasso are attractive because of the support for Emplant and
the WorkBench and mode promotion but what I really need is good production
s/w, today. EGS is has great potential but I wonder if that potential
will ever be realised.
BTW, do you know if any of those other boards have composite or S-Video
out? I would like to hear any other comments that you have.
Thanks,
Andrew
Isn't TVPaint bundled with these boards? Or is it TVPaint Jr.?
Stephen Bailey
Sawyer & Bailey Film and Video CIS # 72773,2451
I think it's TVPaintJr. The ads in AmigaWorld have the Retina being sold
separately from TV Paint ($495 & $200). The GVP EGS board comes with EGS
Paint (which sounds underwhelming.)
The thing I like about OpalVision is that it is only $400 and comes with
Montage24 as well as the standard s/w.
Andrew
Andrew:
The EGS card is actually made in Germany I believe, and I think DKB was
also selling the same card, only theirs also had composite out as well as
the RGB out. You might want to check with DKB over in the AmigaVendor
forum for more specifics. I think their version is called the Picollo or
something like that.
// -Mike Schiller
\X/ AMIGA! On AutoPilot in sunny Fort Lauderdale
Thanks Mike,
When EGS was first announced in September I was very excited about it but
the excitement has wanned. EGS sounds good but there doesn't seem to be
enough s/w that supports it today and with the way the market is I don't
want to invest in something that may or may to be developed in the future.
So my choice would most likely be OpalVision or the Retina/Picasso duo.
Andrew
Andrew:
Well, between the Retina and the Picasso I'd go (actually I did go) for
the Picasso. I have one of their first boards imported, and I love it.
// -Mike Schiller
\X/ AMIGA! On AutoPilot in sunny Fort Lauderdale
Mike,
The Picasso paint program seems better as well (from what I have seen.)
It also sounds like the specs are better with it, which is why it costs
more, I guess.
Thanks for your comments.
Andrew
I believe that Retina comes with TVPaint Jr..
Another economical choice would be to buy Imagemaster R/t for $79.95 from
DevWare listed in Amiga World. It has absolutely everything I can imagine.
The program has painting, compositing, morphing, digitizing, and much,
much more. It's the best 24 bit image processor value out there today!
It is also retargetable, so you can overlay the toolboxes over the
Retina's 24 bit display.
There are other 24 bit cards, of course, but Retina and Imagemaster R/t
have my absolute confidence for your type of work. Both of these products
received high marks in Video Toaster User magazine as great to have to use
in conjunction with the Toaster.
-= Vance =- Image Master
Flying high on Imagine and Imagemaster R/t!
Vance,
I have IMr/t (bought it just 3 weeks before the price dropped).
Unfortunately, 16 colour hires doesn't do it justice. (Also, I don't have
enough RAM to run it properly.
The Retina is very attractive, I have to admit. Is the 2 meg version
enough or would it be better to go for 4 megs?
Andrew
The 2mb is enough for 1 large buffered 24 bit image, 4mb would be
preferable. IM R/t recommends a minimum of 6mb to run properly. I've found
that GigaMem works perfectly fine with it. If you have an MMU and can't
afford the extra ram, virtual memory is extremely useful. I have over 40mb
of virtual available for IM R/t.
I only wish I could get GigaMem to work with Imagine though.
-= Vance =- Image Master
Flying high on Imagine and Imagemaster R/t!
>The 2mb is enough for 1 large buffered 24 bit image, 4mb would be
>preferable. IM R/t recommends a minimum of 6mb to run properly.
Do you mean I/M recommends that for RAM, or for video mem? The Retina
doesn't go past 4meg, Z2 -or- Z3, right?
Paul
Vance,
The nice thing about the Retina, as I understand it, is that the ram is
user upgradable. As for IM R/t just upgraded to 2 Megs Chip and now I am
finally able to load hires 16 colour pictures and actually save them! 8^)
Thanks for the info about GigaMem. I think that is the route I'll have to
take, for the time being. Of course I have to also get a bigger HDD…I
remember the days when my amiga chugged along quite happily with 1 meg and
a single floppy, a the (not so) good old days. 8^)
BTW, I bit the bullet and ordered OpalVision today. I expect I'll have it
by the weekend. Thanks for your advise (even if I didn't follow it).
Andrew
PMFJI, but beware of Gigamem if you use a GVP A2000 '040. They aren't
compatible as of now. Last I heard, the programmer was working on a new
version that will work with the GVP G-Force 2000 '040.
I found this out the hard way.
Stephen Bailey
Sawyer & Bailey Film and Video CIS # 72773,2451
Stephan,
Thanks for the warning about the GVP '040 & GigaMem. As I don't have one
(yet) I won't need to worry about it for a while but I will try and
remember it when the time comes.
Were you able to get your money back on it?
Andrew
Haven't tried to return it. I was assured by the US distributor that the
author was re-tuning the the software for GVP G-Force '040s (or, maybe he
meant for '040s in general). I suppose this was due to that fact that many
A2000s have (or will have) GVP 040s in them.
Waiting…. 🙂
Stephen Bailey
Sawyer & Bailey Film and Video CIS # 72773,2451
Stephen,
In my case I wouldn't be able to use GigaMem anyway because my HDD is
bursting at the seams. Did they give you an idea of how long it would
take to get a bugfix? Do you know how it knows what to swap to the drive?
Andrew
Andrew,
Could you please let me know if you have any problems recieving your free copy
of MONTAGE 24 which comes with every OpalVision Main Board till June 30th?
Thanks!
Tom Patrick
InnoVision Technology
510-638-0800
24hr Fax 510-638-6453
The max resolution of the Picasso and EGS are not 800×600! Perhaps that
is the limitation at 24bit… but not the overall max.
-Jonathan
// Amiga online via Autopilot. MAC Quadra 900 and
\\// 486 emulation. E-Mail: jonathanb@delrina.com
That's what we were talking about. 800×600 for Picasso and EGS is the max
for 24 bit displayable.
-= Vance =- Image Master
Flying high on Imagine and Imagemaster R/t!
Andrew,
I use OpalVision on an Amiga 3000. The included software is powerful and
bug-free. OpalPaint is absolutely terrific, I haven't used Deluxe Paint since
I got it over a year ago. There are more Drawing modes and effects than many
Processing programs.
I connect my OpalVision to my VCR with a cheap Genlock I've had for
years. The included animation program and presentation programs are very
useful.
———————————————-Don- via Whap!
Don,
Thanks for your comments.
How much RAM do you have. Do you think 6 Meg is enough (for the time
being)?
So the output is the same as the standard Amiga RGB. I guess on my one
monitor setup I would have to get some sort of switch box or something,
huh? Is there any sort of pass-through for the Amiga display? How is the
display speed? I have heard about the Picasso and Retina that they are
blazingly fast. How is third party support for s/w?
Andrew
Andrew,
I have 2 Megs Chip Ram & 8 Megs of Fast Ram. Do I think 6 is enough?
Well I have r10 & I'm looking to get another 4 Megs. The OpalVision Anim player
is great when playing from Ram so the more ram you have thew longer your anims
can be. It can play anims from hard drives but this method tends to be slow &
jumpy.
I only have one monitor & use the opal out for all my viewing. This
tends to be flickery but I can live with it. Make sure the monitor steps down
to 15 Hzt which none of the IBM VGA monitors do. It looks great on my Sony
MultiSync.
The display speed is so fast is a non-factor. Most of the 3rd party
software makers support OpalVision. I use ADPro, ImageMaster, Imagine, &
View
tek with it. VistaPro does not directly support it but this really doesn't
matter much with a multitasking computer since it's only a flip-screen and
click on Viewtek to view your work. I have converted VistaPro anims to
OpalVision format with great results. Imagine directly supports OpalVision.
———————————————-Don- via Whap!
Don,
I probably won't being doing too many anims for a while so I hope my 6
megs will be adequate to at least to basic work. Does OpalPaint work with
Gigamem?
So the board doesn't use the scan doubler built into the 3000 to output 30
Hzt? I suspected not. Luckily I have a 1942 bi-sync so I will be able to
get a switch box and toggle between lace and nonlace.
Yes, I was impressed with the number of third party products support it.
Which version of Imagine supports it. I have 2.0 and it only lists the
FireCracker. Would I have to upgrade to 3.0?
BTW, I have joined the Opal Club and ordered my board today. I expect to
get it by the weekend.
Andrew
Andrew,
Congradulations. BTW I heard the Video Processor should be out in about
2 weeks. Imagine works with OpalVision but you must use the switch in the
preferences to switch from FireCracker. 6 Megs should be fine for OpalPaint,
a problem may arise when using brushes or extra screens.
———————————————-Don- via Whap!
Donald,
I can't wait until I get the OpalVision board. Unfortunately, I didn't
get it by Friday but it will probably come early next week. I'm glad to
hear that 6megs should be sufficient, at least to start up.
The day after I ordered it a sales person called from OpalTech to answer
some questions. He confirmed that the modules were ready to be released.
BTW, did you know that OpalTech is owned by Creative Computers?
Andrew
Andrew,
Really?!!? I didn't know they were owned by Creative. When did that
happen?
———————————————-Don- via Whap!
Don,
OpalTech was purchased by Creative a number of years ago but it has been
kept under wraps due to the conflict of interest possibilities. First the
Creative sales person told me and then I asked the person who called from
OpalTech and he confirmed it.
Ya, know, I still haven't received my board. It was shipped on the 19th
but for some reason it had a 2 year old phone number on the waybill.
After FedEx tried to unsuccessfully contact me (god knows why they didn't
come to my house) the sent it back to California. So now I have to wait
another week. Ahhhhhh.
Andrew
Andrew,
I would like to add my 2 cents worth for your consideration while
considering 24 bit boards. First off, it is not clear to me what you want
to accomplish with your 24-bit board! I believe the products out there
that fall into basically 2 camps — video related or "true color" high
resolution display related (there are suppose to be some that cover both
camps like the Merlin and the RetinaZ3 but I haven't heard/seen these
products as being readily available). The video related products like
OpalVision and IV24 have 24-bit displays that show about 750 something by
480 something (which roughly translates to a single video size image)
where as the high-res products like PicassoII and Spectrum will easily
provide 24-bit displays of 800×600 images non-interlaced and even larger
image sizes at a somewhat reduced color count (assuming your monitor can
handle it!).
Grabbing frames and outputting to NTSC is not trival for the high-res
devices since they were not designed with this in mind. On the other
hand, the video related devices are naturally more suited for this. The
IV24 has capture and output capabilities built-in, where as I am pretty
certain you have to purchase extra modules (when/if available) to let the
OpalVision board do this. The OpalVision, however, has more impressive
animation playback, at least from what I have seen!
Retargetable graphics (intertangled with device indepedant graphics)
appears to relate more immediately to the high-res devices and the desire
to transparently run all your software on high-color, high-resolution
screens. This may or may not be important depending on how happy you are
with the "native" software provided with your 24-bit board, or as you
noted, how well the board is supported by third party software (especially
those you want to use!).
If price is the driving factor and all you want is a 75*x48* 24-bit
interlaced display to view images (I'm ignoring paint programs because
they all come with at least one and "good" is such a subjective thing),
then I don't think you can go wrong with the current prices for the
OpalVision. However, if you are looking for more than this (video in-out,
non-interlaced display, higher resolution, etc…) I would recommend you
prioritize your needs (and/or desires) and then examine your options!
So that you know my bias, I own an IV24 and am very impressed with it
(in fact, I'm surprised it is not more popular!) but I also have a little
hands-on with both the OpalVision and Spectrum boards….
EdV
Ed,
I'd love to have your 2 cents…8^)
Well, a bit about myself might clear things up. I'm a multimedia
developer and the majority of the work that I will be doing with the board
will be screen displays. I am also interested in using it for taping
demos, examples and promotionals. That's why the most important thing for
me was a good paint program. I also don't have a lot to spend. Most of
the stuff I will be doing will probably be 640×480 (VGA) but I was hoping
to be able to at least work on "super" bitmaps of 800×600 and more. If I
ever get to the point where I work normally at the higher resolutions then
I'll have to invest in a new monitor, etc.
Having something like the EGS or RTG boards would be nice but if the paint
program wasn't up to snuff it wouldn't do me very much good. I was
attracted to the Opal Board primarially because of the reputation of
OpalPaint and the low cost. I don't really care if the video modules are
ever released because I'm not a videographer.
The GVP Impact is very attractive but it is out of my price range. Also,
if I was to spend more for something I would probably try and get an RTG
system. (BTW, how is the paint program that comes with it, I recall
MacroPaint used to be bundled with it but was very buggy.) I was
surprised that it never took off more than it did, as well. I guess it
was over shadowed by the Toaster.
As the future of the Amiga is in doubt I want to make sure I get something
that works today, not in the nebulous future. For that reason I ordered
the Opal Board today. It may not be the most technologically advanced but
at least it seems to have a good track record. I probably should have
waited for more opinions but heck, ya gotta do what you expect you are
going to do anyway.
Thanks for your 2c.
Andrew
Andrew,
Sounds like you have already weighed the things I mentioned and given
them fair consideration. Like you, I'm not a real videographer kind of
guy, and share the multimedia interests. In fact, that's why I picked the
IV24 a couple years ago — video in a window (not scaled but still pretty
impressive), 24 bit non-interlaced display, and all ARexx controllable!
Your statement that MacroPaint was buggy is a gross under-statement (maybe
that's why the IV24 didn't sell well!!!), but the version that came with
the IV24 upgrade kit is fantastic as far as I'm concerned — no more bugs
(at least that I've run into), scrolling 24 bit display, great assortment
of painting tools (no animation stuff thou), and best of all is ARexx
controllable. In anycase, I'm sure the OpalVision board will serve you
well.
EdV
Ed,
Sorry for the delay, I've been off a while.
Yes, I have given a fair bit of thought to purchasing the OpalVision
board. Although I haven't received it yet I am confident that it will
satisfy my requirements, for the time being at least. Of course, it would
also be nice not to have to make the decision primarily based on cost but
"ya gotta do what ya have to do it with… "
Do you have any special uses for your IV24?
Andrew
Andrew,
I use the IV24 primarily as a non-interlaced 24-bit RGB display board
for image viewing, processing, and painting, althought I have called upon
it for it's other capabilities more than a few times. I have grabbed
images from my video tape and laserdisc collection, monitored CNN in a
small picture window on my computer screen, used the same picture video
window capability in a multimedia presentation (but this time I moved the
window around the screen, changed its size, and even froze/released the
live video image throughout the presentation — I don't do this when I'm
monitoring CNN <G>), make and run IV24 unique Fyeanims (12-bit true 4096
colors not HAM6 animations — no artifacting!), and have even pumped most
of these things out to an NTSC monitor. The IV24 has some other "video"
related capabilities, but I'm not a vidoegrapher type guy so I haven't
played around with them. Opps, sorry, I ramble…
EdV
Ed,
Thanks for rambling. It was interesting to hear what the IV24 can be used
for in a reallife environment. How has GVP been on upgrading the S/W. Do
you know if it will it be possible to use the EGS system for retargetable
graphics?
Andrew
Andrew,
Glad you enjoyed my ramblings! I have no complaints with GVP and the
software upgrade path they have offered for the IV24. GVP provided a
rather substantial upgrade for the early IV24s which not only included
much better software (and more of it!) but also new ROMs for the board. I
had to pay around $100 for it because I always seem to buy early (so I can
pay the highest price and do free trouble shooting for companies — well
at least it seems that way <G>), but I would expect all IV24s shipping
now-a-days to be already equiped with this upgrade.
I got wind of some "rumors" a little while back that indicated GVP was
considering an EGS library for the IV24. One of the factors against doing
one was that it could not perform anywhere near the performance of their
Spectrum product. It seems the IV24 does not have any graphics
accelerators on board and therefore your machine's CPU has to do all the
work. In fact, I asked GVP about the IV24 EGS just last week and received
the all to familiar "we do not confirm or deny the existence of
aliens/nuclear weapons/(your favorite unknown)" response — boy do I hate
that.
EdV
Ed,
I wonder if there is a way to add an accelerator to the IV24. It would be
neat if there was because then you could upgrade if you found it too slow.
That's what attracted me to OpalVision (and the Amiga, for that matter):
Modular Upgrades.
I think most Amiga Vendors these days will be taking a very conservative
approach to new upgrades, or even continued support.
Andrew
I also have an Opalvision board in my A4000. I don't think you will find a
more powerful paint program on any platform! The Opalvision software is
completely ARexx controlable plus you get free updates from their BBS. One
of the reasons so many 3rd party programs support it is because the
complete developers kit is available free for the down loading on their
BBS also. I also read on their BBS that the Video Processer should start
shipping in SMALL quanities 1 June. BTW Imagine 3.0 fully supports Opal,
they used to ship a specail version of Imagine 2.0 with the board but with
more and more 3D programs supporting Opal they quit doing so. The Video
processer has composite and S-Video out.
That's about 2 cents worth isn't?
34 megs and I still need more!
D.L. Fritchie
" Super Fast MultiTask on my Amiga 4000 "
Darrell,
Thanks for your comments.
I'm looking forward to comparing OpalPaint to FractalPainter on Windoz
(arguably the best paint package on Windows & Macs). I have to admit that
I was underwhelmed by Painter so I have high hopes for OP. What version
is it at right now?
The video processor looks really neat. I'm not sure if it is something
that I would actually purchase (not for a while at least) but it is good
to see future expandability.
I'll send a cheque for 2 cents in the mail. 8^)
Andrew
>I was underwhelmed by Painter…
You, good sir, obviously march to the beat of a different drummer. The PC
and Mac mags think Fractal Design Painter is the greatest thing since
sliced Toast. Me, I'm still having loads 'o fun with DCTV Paint. Best
watercolor program around for under $250 (DCTV dongle included!).
— Ron Legro / MILWAUKEE WI USA via AUTOPILOT
["Phun, phun, phun on the Infobahn…"]
Ron,
>>I was underwhelmed by Painter…
>You, good sir, obviously march to the beat of a different drummer…
Sometimes, when the normal beat is too boring.
Perhaps it is that hype that turned me off. It seems to have lots of
flash but I question the substance.
Don't get me wrong. I think Painter is an AMAZING product and I would buy
it in a minute if I had a machine that ran it and the money (I have just
started using it at work.) However, for all the amazing effects I found
that it lacked a number of (what I consider to be) basic features such a
geometric forms (circles, polys, etc). The windoz version also doesn't
seem all that stable. For image processing I still generally use
PhotoStyler.
It may be the transition from 16 colours to 16 million but I find that it
is difficult to do simple things that I am used to. I'm still used to
being able to pick up irregularly shaped brushes and paint or compost them
(as in DPaint et al.) To do that with Painter you have to buy the
Extensions at another $150 or so.
Perhaps after I have worked with it a bit more I will feel differently.
Andrew
Andrew,
If you're using an image processor under windows, you might be interested
in looking at our WinImages:F/x system; it's a *very* powerful image
processing system.
–Ben
…via AutoPilot
Hey, I just said that………Must be an echo……….;-)
Perhaps you should take a look at Winimages:FX which also allow you to
grab irregular shaped brushes and doo all sorts of LOVELY things to it.
Check with Ben Williams in Amigavends Black Belt Systems area for more
info.
Peter,
Thanks, I've asked Ben to send me some info.
Andrew
Glad to help
To borrow a line from Miller beer: Sometimes, less is more.
— Ron Legro / MILWAUKEE WI USA via AUTOPILOT
["Phun, phun, phun on the Infobahn…"]
>> To borrow a line from Miller beer: Sometimes, less is more.
How true. For all of a products complexity if you can't do a basic
operation then it is as good a useless. That's why I'm a little
apprehensive about jumping from 16 to 16 million colours. I'll have to
learn new ways of doing things (although at least I won't have to worry
about palette selection.)
Andrew
Well, Andrew, if you only ran Fractal on a 486/DX2-66 or better with 32mb
of RAM, you'd have been impressed. Oh, also you'd need a wicked fast
local bus video card. Still, it sure has some nice tools.
Paul
Paul,
The system I ran it on was a 486 33DX with 16MB. It wasn't really the
speed that I was commenting on but the actual program. I don't deny that
Painter has some amazing effects but it also <<seems>> to lack some pure
and simple features that I feel should be taken for granted. I have only
used it for a few days, however, so it may be premature to make comments.
Andrew
>>I also read on their BBS that the Video Processer should start
>>shipping in SMALL quanities 1 June.
What! That is a lie!
They've been saying the modules will be done in a few weeks for three
years! Just a bunch of liars, it'll never happen.
They have one phony prototype and probably never intend to produce it.
–Paul < Motorola Inside >