This is an archive of CompuServe forum messages from 1985 to 1995, as saved in transcripts by John Foust.
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One more time…and I don't think our *public* debate is a fight. If anything, I think it lends itself to being recorded for posterity. The facts we are both bringing to the forum are, in themselves, valuable. About fonts – I know how significant the Adobe fonts are. But I…
Listen, I don't want to get into a big fight about this, but how can you say Adobe isn't the industry standard for fonts in DTP? Name me a service bureau that carries CG and Bitstream fonts that doesn't carry Adobe. Since Adobe cut the deal where Linotype is now…
#Sign Maker
Message #7493
Can anyone tell me if there are PostScript Plotter/Cutters made for the sign making industry. I know of a dedacated machine called "Sign Maker" ($10K – $20K) from Gerber Scientific that cuts letters out of 3M vinal. The machine is fast but does not allow for use of a gereral…
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Film Neg — Lino
Message #7487
To create negatives (inverted and mirrored), send this PS file (works with a Linotronic RIP with PostScript version 42 and later): serverdict begin 0 exitserver statusdict begin /negativeprint true def /mirrorprint true def end To return to normal printing (inversion and mirroring off), send this file: serverdict begin 0 exitserver…
HP emulation under v47.x
Message #7477
Could someone familiar with HP emulation under version 47.x detail the known limitations of the emulation and, perhaps, how the emulation was implemented. I am having problems with it printing from Ventura Publisher (all versions). Yes, of course I know XVP does PS…I have an application, though, that requires HP…
>Nicely put defense of Adobe. I think you're right on. With the pricing I've >seen on the new CG Postscript machines (which are using an Adobe-sanctioned >RIP) I think Birmy is in serious trouble. Why purchase a Birmysetter that >can't run the Adobe fonts (which whether David likes it or…
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Graphics Conversion
Message #7475
The DeskPaint 2.0 package from Zedcor includes a utility that does PC–>Mac TIFF conversion and vice versa. $129.95 list, but available mail order for much less.
Nicely put defense of Adobe. I think you're right on. With the pricing I've seen on the new CG Postscript machines (which are using an Adobe-sanctioned RIP) I think Birmy is in serious trouble. Why purchase a Birmysetter that can't run the Adobe fonts (which whether David likes it or…
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#Filled Outline Fonts
Message #7465
This sort of problem represents the "flip side" to the advantages of Adobe fonts. If one has a lot of special manipulation to do with type, it might pay to invest in Compugraphic's versions of the faces you want to work with, which are shipped with a utility to convert…
I don't disagree with your observations about Adobe versus clone fonts. There are large non-Adobe font libraries available (and Adobe machines can use them, while non-Adobe machines can't use Adobe fonts), and I respect the craftsmanship that Bitstream, URW/The Company, and Compugraphic have applied to creating these fonts. But it…
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#Varityper
Message #7456
Stephen…you know, rumor has it that the Adobe hinting algorithm has or shortly will be broken. There are three people working on throughout the country – probably more, but three known to be good and likely to break it. I think that not being able to use Adobe font is…
I bought Illustrator to produce my Company Logo on my documents etc. I used the Auto Trace feature and worked on improving it. I then saved it as an Illustrator EPS format so that I would bring it into Xpress. However, when I choose "Get Picture" the Documents from Illustrator…
Uncoated Pantone may never be shipped because Pantone hasn't done it for Adobe. Illustrator '88 files should be no sweat with Xpress, we use them all the time. Tell me more… what have you tried?
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#Scan Settings
Message #7448
I'm afraid I don't know much about the Apple Scanner, but I can tell how I use other ones to produce templates for Illustrator. Illustrator supports somewhere around a 8"x10" area for templates. You can use scans in either PICT or MPNT format as templates, both have thier place. The…
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#Font Metrics
Message #7446
You're right that the AFM units are based on 1000 to the em. To use the size for each character in an application, divide the size in the AFM by 1000, and multiply by whatever your current pointsize is. The easiest example is the em dash character. It's size is…
#ADOBE WITH QUARKXPRESS
Message #7445
I just finished purchasing both Adobe 88 and Quarkxpress and I am having a problem getting the EPS format to be recognozied by Qxpress. Also I am missing the Pantone color file for uncoated stock paper. This might seem as a dumb question, however I would really appreciate your help…
The Apple vs Adobe screen font question comes from printing at sites other than your own. If you have composed your document using Apple LW font, and print to a device that uses Adobe LW screen font, you will obtain disasterous results. The main difference is kerning information is contained…
Of course! what other program would they use? Earl Allen, Altsys Technical Support (Publisher's Type Foundry??????????)
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Need Format Specs
Message #7426
The technical information about the font files is NOT available. What you need is Adobe's new font downloading disc (available as of a few weeks ago). In there you will find a PARALLEL PRINTER downloader. This loader, naturally, assumes a one-way conversation with the printer. You can use this and…
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##6986-Version 2 Fonts
Message #7411
Did you say that Compugraphic creates their PostScript fonts using Fontographer!?
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Pagemaker high bits
Message #7402
My expe%+\ce is that the interpreter in a PostScript RIP is expecting stings to contain "the printable subset of the ASCII character set, plus the characters space, tab, and newline" (Red Book). When I've sent Macintosh PageMaker PostScript files to a PostScript RIP from a PC compatible the higher order…
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#NEC890Envelopes
Message #7375
The corona wire (not associated with a fine Mexican beer) is situated underneath a strand of guide wire that straddles a rectangular channel in a diagonal manner. Open up your printer, remove and store the OPC, and look straight down into the bowels of the device. You'll see the diagonal…
CG has done a nice job on fonts, given the basic restriction they suffer–not being able to take advantage of the Adobe font scaling "hints" that allow Adobe PostScript fonts to work well in sizes that are small relative to the device resolution. As long as you're in a "closed…
As far as I know, the final output quality would not be affected. What would be (possibly) is the spacing going from screen to printed page and the look of the fonts on your screen. Either way, what prints out is going to be the PostScript font built into your…
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#Hi-Res Printer Choice?
Message #7352
What's wrong with the CG fonts?
#Screen Fonts
Message #7310
I gather from your previous reply that the difference between Apple's LaserWriter screen fonts and Adobe's is that you include the italic, bold, and bold-italic typestyles, while Apple does not. Does this affect my final output? That is, do programs, such as Word or PageMaker, depend on the screen fonts…
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#PORT MAC FONTS TO IBM
Message #7292
The version of the fonts Adobe is currently selling cannot be transferred to an IBM and downloaded. The fonts are in MAC binary format and can only be downloaded from a Macintosh. (Our copy-protected version of the fonts, which were replaced quite some time ago, could be saved as a…
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#NFNTs revisited
Message #7244
Hi Jon, welcome to the Mac universe. Just starting out or not, I would recommend Suitcase II. The documentation is very good, and educational. It's not a tech manual but it will enlighten you to macintosh fonts. Suitcase II is also the best font access utility. Font Harmony is a…
Lino Printing
Message #7238
Concerning the size problem: Welcome to the Wonderful World of Postscript! The fact that Postscript points and printers points don't match is a source of continual aggravation. If you're writing a Postscript program, it's fairly easy to compensate by rescaling the job by including the line 72 72.27 div 72…
#FontLiner
Message #6938
There was a recent article (in one of the Mac magazines I believe) about Taylored utilities: FontLiner, QuickPlot.PS and Xris-Xros–and how they can be used with Adobe Illustrator. Here are the vitals- Taylored Graphics P.O. Box 1900 Freedom, CA 95019 (408) 761-2481
I haven't got a line on Taylored Graphics, but I have had the chance ot use FontLiner…works great! It takes your PostScript Font & converts it to an Adobe Illustrator file, as individually grouped drawings, just like the "clip art" alphabets that Adobe released themselves with their Collectors Edition One.…
#FontLiner
Message #6914
I just received an order form for CompuGraphic's 13 PostScript type volumes. While I don't need any of their type yet, I'd like to get my hands on the Fontliner utility they are bundling until Jan. 1. According to the order form, the utility converts outline characters (Fontographer created I…
Thanks. Here on the Amiga, there are dozens of disks of color fonts available commercially and in the public domain, some of them quite large (120 pixels tall or so) and well-colored. It remains to be seen whether the differences in aspect ratio will prevent their porting to the Mac…
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More Adobe NFNTs
Message #6904
The ResEdit manual I got is about 50 pages long…I wouldn't call it extensive, but it does cover basic operation. Of course, it assumes you know what you're supposed to be doing in the first place (knowing what each of the resources are, for example). -Scott Leyes
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When I say "painstakingly calibrated", I mea that you need to have the Linotronic service reps to a precise densitometer testing on your machine when you get it. I don't know all the details, but the exposure settings on a Lino can change/degrade over time, due to shipping, etc. Also,…
type library stack
Message #6901
Is the Adobe Type Library HyperCard stack available on this forum? Thanks, Dave
I Have been using The old Jasmin 80 Drive with Ill88 since Ill88 was beta with no problems that I can attribute to the drive. I have had problems with the Adobe Illustrator 88 Preference file located in the system folder. I was working with Ill88 and found that eveything…
Thanks. I just had to reinitialize my Jasmine DD 70. The main symptom was PostScript code from an Illustrator 88 document appearing in a Navigator session file; I wasn't running MultiFinder. Disk First Aid confirmed that I had a problem (it couldn't verify my drive). Having seen messages about a…
AFM Usage
Message #6898
See message 6889, which I think identifies the problem.
Scott: We have an L-300 on order and plan to start doing what we hope will be "pleasing color" on it. What are you specifically talking about when you say "painstakingly calibrated"? Also have you used, or do you suggest using, elliptical dots, or any other dot pattern besides the…
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Ill88 & Jasmine-Fatal!!
Message #6896
Lori: Thanks for the reply re. Jasmine. My vitals are: David Buell c/o Advanced Laser Graphics, 1850 K St, NW, Metro Level, Washington, DC 20006 (202) 835-0100.
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OMS PS-810
Message #6895
The QMS 810 is mechanically equivalent to a LaserWriter NT. The RIP, for all prectical purposes) has equivalent performance. Buy a NT if you are in an Apple only environment (street price $3500-$4000), 810 for mixed DOS-Mac environment (it easily mimics HP's, etc. Street price $4300-$4800). For bargins, nothing can…
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More Adobe NFNTs
Message #6894
Leave it to a DECie to make them "virtually" purgeable!!
Could you give me a pointer to a place where Mac II color fonts are described? I'd like to see their format for them, too. I must have been looking at an old Inside Mac, it makes sense that the 128K ROMs addressed the question of limited font size.
Inside Macintosh Vol.5 mentions that the largest practical size for a screen font in the 128K ROMS (Mac Plus) is 127 pt.; and that the Mac II ROM limits the largest practical size to "about 255 points". I don't know where the Mac SE fits in (256K ROM, but not…
Lasertalk is sold by Emerald City Software. Their address is Emerald City Software 97 Jennings Lane Atherton, CA 94025 (415) 368-8303 Last time I checked, the PC version was being shipped in December. Hope this helps.
See my recent message to Steve Werner to learn a little about the way I'm attacking all this font stuff… I was amazed, reading Inside Mac, to learn that no compression is used to store fonts on disk, and that fonts were indeed limited to only 32K of memory space,…
Ah, I see… LaserTalk might not read the bitmap, it might make replacements for the stroke and fill commands, and when each is invoked for a letter, it sends something back to the Mac, and the Mac builds the bitmap. Maybe. I'm getting into PostScript and Macs from a purely…
those .psf fonts
Message #6879
Deleted that 150k or so of SU*.PSF files after installation of ITC Souvenir into Ventura (with a CGA monitor on a Compaq 286). They have no effect whatsoever! They had copied onto C:\VENTURA where, I presume, they were directed by your installation procedure then converted from whatever they were on…
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