This is an archive of CompuServe forum messages from 1985 to 1995, as saved in transcripts by John Foust.
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Jerry, "If they are reduced to depending only on the graphic arts market, I suspect that they will shrink to nothingness…" Yup Rich
Jerry, My reference to the printing industry being bigger than the computer industry was meant only to point out that if Apple can keep their loyal following in the graphic arts community by keeping the the OS and the hardware (Mac PPC) superior to the competition for graphic design, pre-press…
Jerry, If it takes 2 more years for Apple to get Copeland out, they're gonna be in deep trouble. Still, with all the stuff they're working on – Firewire and a good networking, pre-emptive multitasking OS, they may just stay as far ahead in the graphic arts community vs the…
#Pentiums and Macs
Message #182577
Jerry, We run 7.5 on 5 macs. No real problems. I just expected more. AppleScript is nice. I think as good as Rexx. I can't help but imagine what we would have on our desktops today if Apple had acquired Amiga instead of C= way back in the mid '80s.…
Don, What do you think of NT/W95,etc vs what IBM appears to be developing in OS/2, Warp. Are the IBM OS ambitions as far flung as NT? Rich
Steve, Agreed on all counts. 8) Rich
Don, Yup, "the UNIX vs NT is still very much a war that has many battles to go." That's the point. MS is _in_ the battle. NT _is_ a contender. Unthinkable a short while ago. And the scary thing is that because MS is a unified (if monolithic) entity, it…
Steve, I think the Unix world is _very_ worried about NT. Open computing has never been what it was supposed to be. Unix was and is fragmented into what are essentially propietary sub OSs. Motif and Open Look dueled for years – the goal supposedly to unify Unix at least…
Steve, Hope you are right. One thing though, NT _will_ have some share of the (now) UNIX pie. And it took the competition that NT poses to get the warring factions of UNIX together (I hope) at long last. Rich
Dale, Novell – rulers of lame PC networking, yes. But that's a _lot_ of networking. And they own UNIX. _Their_ designs on the world of computing are not hard to figure. They are the rulers of networking if UNIX can prevail. OS/2 _does_ have a chance to slam the windows…
Leslie, The Unix world has been trying to agree on specs for a unified graphics environment for years. XWindows is the defacto standard. Unix users have finally stopped their in-fighting and are now more in agreement as to how to procede. Windows NT has been the scare that has unified…
Rafael, No, from the people who have brought you Windows NT. The people who have convinced 95% of the computer-using world not to stray from the MS fold, no matter what else was out there. They have been extremely successful in that regard, and will continue to be so. Rich
Leslie, Windows NT is the full strength, do _any_ thing OS. Despite all the (deserved) nasty things we can think to say about MicroSoft, their vision of NT as the master of every computer platform in existence is well planned, and they are probably going to pull it off. Lesser…
Leslie, See ben's reply to this message. I _hope_ the Power PC will be able to compete with Intel. But I doubt it. The 604 PPC will smoke the Pentium. No question about it. And machines built around it will be cheaper to manufacture. It just may have a chance.…
Leslie, Apologies accepted. Re my opinion about the fate of the Amiga. I hope I am wrong too! This is one of those times where one does hope to be proven wrong. But I don't think so. I really believe that in a very short time, the computer 'industry' will…
Steven, Sorry. You've asked and answered all your own questions. BTW re Amiga vs PC comparrisons. Just Insert Mac instead of Amiga. Same fate soon. Sad. I think the only choice a computer buyer will have in the near future is which PC vendor to buy from.
Leslie, You _are_ right. I don't have to answer your questions. What I don't understand about you, is why you question someone's interest in this forum after he has described his use of another machine in his line of work. It seems as though you have focused on me as…
Leslie, I agree with you that there is a good chance that the remains of CBM are going to wind up in the hands of someone who will just run the string out, sell whatever equipment is left and let the technology die. Or that some effort will be made…
Mr. C Yes, I think it is naive to expect that any new R&D is going to happen for the machine that we havwe known as Amiga. I have as right to state my opinion as anyone here I really am surprised at the reaction this has gotten. I never…
What gives you the right to declare that I "…no longer [have] interest in …" this forum. As long as there is an Amiga forum I'll have interest in it. If someone were to post a question about accomplishing something on their (ah, 'irrelevent') machine, and I had the answer,…
Leslie, I didn't knock anything, and I meant no insult to anyone. Sorry that you took it that way. What I'm finding is that if anything but hope and optimism is expressed about the Amiga, than the bearer of those words gets the anger directed at him that is really…
Nope. No 4000's. Got some 3000s and 2000s that I'll hold onto for a while. I hope Scala is seriously looking at Intel or PowerPC platforms as development areas. Irrelevant means that the machine does not affect the marketplace. It does not imply anything about the importance of the design…
Cheers Alex, I agree with your analysis of the situation. That's what I said in my first message. The individual components of the Amiga hardware and software are exactly what you say they are. And they are not unique to the Amiga, they are as important to computing as they…
Hal, I wondered what invectives my message would generate. 8) No one can claim more fondness for this machine. I resisted posting that particular kind of message for a while, until Alex said exactly what I thought needed to be said. If you're angry at me for the content of…
I've been lurking here for months watching these messages and wondering how everyone could be so naive as to think that the Amiga will ever see production again, much less R&D. The last words of your message are probably the most prophetic and accurate of all the sentiments that have…
John, I don't know if Chicago will really require a Pentium. I was just wondering. Some people may feel that anything slower is unacceptable. And once a newer, faster chip is introduced, it _always_ migrates down- ward into systems that were once thought unable to accept such technology. Laptops _will_…
John, Yup – it's only when you print it out that you find the mistakes. More forests have been mowed down since the advent of the desktop computer than before. And the trend will continue, not reverse. Because the computer makes it easier to produce copy of one kind or…
Let us hope! Rich
Harry, We still do _some_ mechanical paste-up. Not much any more, but when its faster, we still short artwork on the camera, rather than the imagesetter . . . er, that is _shoot_ artwork on the camera. Rich
John, We will always be able to marvel at the Amiga's ability to multitask in 1 meg. Of course it _does_ lack memory management. Chicago may well require a pentium level machine. Rich
John, OK. The synergy is there. The Amiga _did_ allow the present Toaster to come into existence. I don't deny the superiority of the Amiga at all for video. Rich
John, As I said before I _do_ wish you the best. I am really not well informed in the video arena. I have managed to just ignore it. I hope that 'multimedia' just goes away! 8) I just can't read anything on a computer screen. I _must_ print out anything…
Larry, I guess people _do_ get work done in corporate America on Intel machines with spread sheets, word processors, etc (_not_ databases!). Maybe they don't. Maybe, I dunno, but I have found Windows the single most unproductive, destructive, counter-intuitive operating environment to ever exist. When a customer brings in a…
DJ, SGI workstation? I don't have no steenking SGI workstation. Last timme I talked to me dealer in Honolulu an Indy configured to _almost_ perform as well as my Macs came to just under $30,000. And software is much too sparse. For my next Jurassic Park epic, however . .…
DJ, As you say Oh, well. I _was_ talking handling, not horse power. I get angry when I see Intel based systems touted on the basis of processor speed. Certain benchmarks are great, and it is wonderful to be able to brag about the inherent superiority of the design of…
Betty Ok. Sounds like you'll have to stay with the Toshiba. I hope that you can use Chicago when it becomes available. But it will probably be disk and memory demanding. Rich
Steve, I was referring _only_ to the _person_ at the top. I will always have the highest respect for the engineering people. How they were able to carry on in the corporate atmosphere in which they worked is beyond me. Rich
Brian, IBM and Apple corporate cultures are actually becoming quite similar. I agree, simple survival dictates the merger of both. And I think tha that will happen, to the detriment of Apple. I think the Mac OS will become a division of IBM to serve the graphics arts world (which…
DJ, No. It's like saying a Ferrari stinks as a racing machine if it is no longer being manufactured, no parts are available, it requires special fuel that is not being manufactured, few people know or want to know how to repair or maintain it _if_ they could get the…
DJ I have _not_ slammed the Amiga's technology. Never have, never will. I was one of those 'visionaries' who thought that this brilliant little machine (and the A1000 _was_ little) would set the world on fire. It was so far ahead of Macs and PCs when it was first introduced.…
Betty, The business world will put up with the limitations of MSDOS as long as Microsoft demands it. But that _will_ end with Windows 4 (Chicago). I hope that OS/2 can make _some_ headway until then. But it pro probably won't. Amazing, one company has a brilliant operating system (Amiga)…
Larry, OS/2 IS just as invisible. You are absolutely right. It IS the AmigaDOS of the IBM clone ,er, MSDOS, er, Windows (ugh) world. It is _far_ superior to Windows, and much more palatable than NT. Although NT aint chopped liver. It is mature, stable, and (I hate to say…
John, Good luck, and my most sincere hope that you endeavor succeeds. But, I have said it already, and I'll repeat it – any business decision based on future availablity of this machine is risky beyond excuse. Inexpensive multimedia? Take a look at the new Mac 630. The base machine…
Rusty, You're right. But the Amiga did not pave the way for inexpensive video. NewTek did with it's Toaster. The A2000 was never anything more than a co-processor unit for the Toaster. Rich
Wayne, You are absolutely right. It is incredible, though isn't it that even in the niche that Amiga excelled in (video), CBM couldn't define the machine, and couldn't market it. (Actually the hind sight that we now have shows us that at the top levels of the company, no one…
Wayne, The Amiga _is_ a video machine. It's survival over the last couple of years has been due to the existence of the Toaster, and little else. If I had a video oriented business I would be _very_ uncomfortable with the fact that there is essentially no manufacturer in existence,…
Betty, Thank you very much for your kind thoughts. I certainly hope that the negativism I have voiced re the Amiga situation has offended no one here. No one wanted this machine to succeed more than I. My entire graphics arts department was based on two networked Amigas for over…
Hank, Amiga a fast system? Oh, really? 24 bit images huh? what size are the files. Sure my Amigas boot in seconds, My Macs and PCs in minutes, so? MY 24 bit files are 30 megs on average. We typically handle files between 100 and 200 megs. On my A3000…
DJ, Oboy! I didn't mean to start this kind of war again. I left this kind of discussion behind years ago. DJ, our computer systems are mission critical in every respect. In every conceivable way, I have to have productive software and a rock-solid support system in terms of the…
#Pushing OS/2
Message #167594
Betty, Things are going well. Knock on wood 8). We have become the largest commercial printer on Maui. I'm about to buy a new 2-color press. We are a full service bureau with two imagesetters, an Iris color proofing device, lots of Macs, PCs and our sad little network of…
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